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Anonymous wrote:My 25yo nephew graduated three years ago with a Philosophy degree. He is making $80k as a new reporter working for a MY publication after having changed jobs twice (he was recruited for this job by someone he met in his first job).

My niece with an English degree is working for a financial services company doing PR. She is 25yo and makes about $60k with excellent benefits.

I find it odd that you know your niece's and nephew's salaries and benefits. Tacky for them or their parents to tell you, or tacky for you to ask. We have no idea what our own kids are making, yet again our siblings' kids.

You come from an uptight family.

Quite the opposite. We are a family that doesn't focus on salary to measure success and that doesn't encourage our children to either.

But even if we weren't, how many people on this board know their nieces' and nephews' salaries and benefits? Seriously. That's weird. Sorry.

NP here -- We don't measure success by salary, but I knew my son's salary during the 3 years he worked for a not-for=profit organization before starting med school. This subject came up because he occasionally asked for advice about financial matters. Although I grew up in a family that never talked about money, my husband's family was more open about it. In my view, their approach was saner and helped my husband and his sibs develop good financial skills. (BTW, my FIL was a college professor, so, again, money was not their measure of success.) I think our marriage and family benefited because we adopted this more open approach to talking about financial matters with each other and with our kids.

Ok . . . but the salaries and benefits of nieces and nephews?

Sure. Lots of people talk about starting salaries. I know the starting salaries of several of my DDs friends because we compare notes about what the kids are doing. Parents have told me what their kids are earning. Not in a bragging way at all -just sharing info. We are talking starting salaries not mid career. And I knew what my nephew's starting salary was last year along with perks (3 meals a day, health club, education benefits, etc.) It's at Google so the benefits are pretty well known.

This falls into the category of "get a life." When we talk to our kids about what their friends are doing, our reaction is typically "that's nice, good for her," not "how much money is she making?" It's just not a question that's ever occurred to us to ask.

I'm not asking the question about starting salaries. And frankly it's usually shared in the context of how difficult it is to live on said salary, or why the kid is living at home. The kids share this info because it's relevant to them - what can they earn in various jobs. It's great that your kids are above all this but for most kids in expensive urban areas the $ are important.

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My liberal arts grad son asked me for advice on negotiating his salary for his second job out of school. I helped him with an approach, research on what the field pays, etc.

It is a real concern for the vast majority of recent grads (and the rest of us too).

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Anonymous wrote:My 25yo nephew graduated three years ago with a Philosophy degree. He is making $80k as a new reporter working for a MY publication after having changed jobs twice (he was recruited for this job by someone he met in his first job).

My niece with an English degree is working for a financial services company doing PR. She is 25yo and makes about $60k with excellent benefits.

I find it odd that you know your niece's and nephew's salaries and benefits. Tacky for them or their parents to tell you, or tacky for you to ask. We have no idea what our own kids are making, yet again our siblings' kids.

You come from an uptight family.

Quite the opposite. We are a family that doesn't focus on salary to measure success and that doesn't encourage our children to either.

But even if we weren't, how many people on this board know their nieces' and nephews' salaries and benefits? Seriously. That's weird. Sorry.

NP here -- We don't measure success by salary, but I knew my son's salary during the 3 years he worked for a not-for=profit organization before starting med school. This subject came up because he occasionally asked for advice about financial matters. Although I grew up in a family that never talked about money, my husband's family was more open about it. In my view, their approach was saner and helped my husband and his sibs develop good financial skills. (BTW, my FIL was a college professor, so, again, money was not their measure of success.) I think our marriage and family benefited because we adopted this more open approach to talking about financial matters with each other and with our kids.

Ok . . . but the salaries and benefits of nieces and nephews?

Sure. Lots of people talk about starting salaries. I know the starting salaries of several of my DDs friends because we compare notes about what the kids are doing. Parents have told me what their kids are earning. Not in a bragging way at all -just sharing info. We are talking starting salaries not mid career. And I knew what my nephew's starting salary was last year along with perks (3 meals a day, health club, education benefits, etc.) It's at Google so the benefits are pretty well known.

This falls into the category of "get a life." When we talk to our kids about what their friends are doing, our reaction is typically "that's nice, good for her," not "how much money is she making?" It's just not a question that's ever occurred to us to ask.

I'm not asking the question about starting salaries. And frankly it's usually shared in the context of how difficult it is to live on said salary, or why the kid is living at home. The kids share this info because it's relevant to them - what can they earn in various jobs. It's great that your kids are above all this but for most kids in expensive urban areas the $ are important.

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Anonymous wrote:My 25yo nephew graduated three years ago with a Philosophy degree. He is making $80k as a new reporter working for a MY publication after having changed jobs twice (he was recruited for this job by someone he met in his first job).

My niece with an English degree is working for a financial services company doing PR. She is 25yo and makes about $60k with excellent benefits.

I find it odd that you know your niece's and nephew's salaries and benefits. Tacky for them or their parents to tell you, or tacky for you to ask. We have no idea what our own kids are making, yet again our siblings' kids.

You come from an uptight family.

Quite the opposite. We are a family that doesn't focus on salary to measure success and that doesn't encourage our children to either.

But even if we weren't, how many people on this board know their nieces' and nephews' salaries and benefits? Seriously. That's weird. Sorry.

NP here -- We don't measure success by salary, but I knew my son's salary during the 3 years he worked for a not-for=profit organization before starting med school. This subject came up because he occasionally asked for advice about financial matters. Although I grew up in a family that never talked about money, my husband's family was more open about it. In my view, their approach was saner and helped my husband and his sibs develop good financial skills. (BTW, my FIL was a college professor, so, again, money was not their measure of success.) I think our marriage and family benefited because we adopted this more open approach to talking about financial matters with each other and with our kids.

Ok . . . but the salaries and benefits of nieces and nephews?

Sure. Lots of people talk about starting salaries. I know the starting salaries of several of my DDs friends because we compare notes about what the kids are doing. Parents have told me what their kids are earning. Not in a bragging way at all -just sharing info. We are talking starting salaries not mid career. And I knew what my nephew's starting salary was last year along with perks (3 meals a day, health club, education benefits, etc.) It's at Google so the benefits are pretty well known.

This falls into the category of "get a life." When we talk to our kids about what their friends are doing, our reaction is typically "that's nice, good for her," not "how much money is she making?" It's just not a question that's ever occurred to us to ask.

Anonymous wrote:PR, communications, policy work, sales, project management, there's lot's of directions someone like this can go. Intern, get experience, and a demonstrable ability to write and produce quality work product. The breadth of types of work happening in corporate in America can be astounding.

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Anonymous wrote:'06 graduate of a SLAC, social science major. I now have a PhD from a major research university and direct a department at a nationally-recognized non-profit. I work with a guy who graduated two years after me, also a social science major, and he is very well compensated as well.

Is he well endowed though

Anonymous wrote:'06 graduate of a SLAC, social science major. I now have a PhD from a major research university and direct a department at a nationally-recognized non-profit. I work with a guy who graduated two years after me, also a social science major, and he is very well compensated as well.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks for the feedback, although it is not so encouraging! DC will be attending a good state school, not an elite private university, and no moneyed family to fall back on. He did choose state school for undergrad so that there would be something left in the 529 for grad school. He won't have undergrad debt. Law school is an obvious choice, but what other graduate degrees do humanities types pursue to make them more employable outside of academia (assuming he doesn't choose that path)?

Honestly? What's done is done. He's either already enrolled or about to, right? Let him enjoy college and grow up and figure it out. He'll have advisors and classmates to consult with. He doesn't need his parents for this. It's all part of growing up.

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Anonymous wrote:Several of my friends with such degrees are relying on wealthy parents and volunteering. A few are working low paying jobs in non profits. I have an engineering degree, had much more luck finding work quickly. class of 2013.

Our children relied on wealthy parents and grandparents and volunteered and may very well end up working low paying jobs in non profits. And what of it? That's the beauty of coming from money -- you don't have to major in something you don't want or take a job that doesn't interest you for the money. And it's important that people volunteer because they're doing important work.

Our children would be very, very unhappy as engineers no matter what they were paid.

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks for the feedback, although it is not so encouraging! DC will be attending a good state school, not an elite private university, and no moneyed family to fall back on. He did choose state school for undergrad so that there would be something left in the 529 for grad school. He won't have undergrad debt. Law school is an obvious choice, but what other graduate degrees do humanities types pursue to make them more employable outside of academia (assuming he doesn't choose that path)?