Anonymous wrote:NP here. 21:41, thanks for taking the time to provide more perspective on how P.A.'s Oscar speech is interpreted by many. Something about the speech kind of rubbed me the wrong way, but I couldn't quite articulate it.

Meant 21:44, of course.

NP here. 21:41, thanks for taking the time to provide more perspective on how P.A.'s Oscar speech is interpreted by many. Something about the speech kind of rubbed me the wrong way, but I couldn't quite articulate it.

Anonymous wrote:Ever since Jada was quoted in an article saying she can't relate to white women I've detested her. She's just ridiculous and her lack of self awareness is hilarious. She was raised wealthy and married a multimillionaire yet she pretends to be "street" merely for show. She and her crazy husband have ruined their kids.

OMG no she wasn't. I know her family. What are you talking about? She's typical inner city Baltimore. Her mom had her as a teen. She was raised by her mom and grandmother, who was a social worker.

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Anonymous wrote:Ever since Jada was quoted in an article saying she can't relate to white women I've detested her. She's just ridiculous and her lack of self awareness is hilarious. She was raised wealthy and married a multimillionaire yet she pretends to be "street" merely for show. She and her crazy husband have ruined their kids.

How do they pretend to be street? Also when you hear Oscar speeches like Patricia Arquette's about wage inequality that are clearly intended to advocate for white women I can't blame Jada if she feels disconnected.

Patricia Arquette's speech "'To every woman who gave birth, to every taxpayer and citizen of this nation, we have fought for everybody else’s equal rights. It’s our time to have wage equality once and for all and equal rights for women in the United States of America.'"

I don't get it. Where did she say "except black women and Jada Pinkett Smith"?

The reason why it's primarily advocating for white women is because for minority women, there are so many employment-related issues that are far more important. Minorities are far more likely to work minimum-wage jobs (or just barely above), where wage equality means raising their pay perhaps a dollar an hour, but still ultimately doesn't provide them with a living wage. They're also far more likely to hold jobs that don't get PTO or have any scheduling flexibility, so they're the ones who are more likely to lose their jobs because their kid got sick or their childcare fell through. People in those positions would benefit far more from focusing not on wage equality, but on increasing the minimum wage, providing greater benefits and job security to all employees, creating more affordable quality child care, etc. White women are more likely to already have these things, and thus to have the luxury, in a sense, of arguing over wage equality. It's not to say that wage equality isn't an important and meaningful goal, it's just that if you looked at the needs of women as a whole, there are other issues that could have a far greater impact. But those aren't the issues of white women with the resources to organize and advocate, so they fall by the wayside in favor of what white women will benefit from.

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Anonymous wrote:Ever since Jada was quoted in an article saying she can't relate to white women I've detested her. She's just ridiculous and her lack of self awareness is hilarious. She was raised wealthy and married a multimillionaire yet she pretends to be "street" merely for show. She and her crazy husband have ruined their kids.

How do they pretend to be street? Also when you hear Oscar speeches like Patricia Arquette's about wage inequality that are clearly intended to advocate for white women I can't blame Jada if she feels disconnected.

Patricia Arquette's speech "'To every woman who gave birth, to every taxpayer and citizen of this nation, we have fought for everybody else’s equal rights. It’s our time to have wage equality once and for all and equal rights for women in the United States of America.'"

I don't get it. Where did she say "except black women and Jada Pinkett Smith"?

"It's time for all of the women in America and all the men that love women, all the gay people, and all the people of color that we've fought for to fight for us now"

Translate: white men, gay people and racial minorities

Or you could interpret it as her saying women have historically fought for the civil rights of others and its time for everyone to fight for women's civil rights. Because that isn't a translation you've posted, its an interpretation. An overly sensitive one.

The statement makes no mention about inclusivity or a potential overlap of the various groups so I take it for what it is. Patricia herself had to backtrack about her statement so I wasn't the only one "interpreting" it a particular way. And please don't go projecting on me being sensitive, no tears were shed on my end by these statements.

I think it's sad how his kids turned out. I mean I know they think they are super cool and all but they just fail so miserably. You think Will would say something to them...

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Anonymous wrote:Ever since Jada was quoted in an article saying she can't relate to white women I've detested her. She's just ridiculous and her lack of self awareness is hilarious. She was raised wealthy and married a multimillionaire yet she pretends to be "street" merely for show. She and her crazy husband have ruined their kids.

How do they pretend to be street? Also when you hear Oscar speeches like Patricia Arquette's about wage inequality that are clearly intended to advocate for white women I can't blame Jada if she feels disconnected.

Patricia Arquette's speech "'To every woman who gave birth, to every taxpayer and citizen of this nation, we have fought for everybody else’s equal rights. It’s our time to have wage equality once and for all and equal rights for women in the United States of America.'"

I don't get it. Where did she say "except black women and Jada Pinkett Smith"?

"It's time for all of the women in America and all the men that love women, all the gay people, and all the people of color that we've fought for to fight for us now"

Translate: white men, gay people and racial minorities

Or you could interpret it as her saying women have historically fought for the civil rights of others and its time for everyone to fight for women's civil rights. Because that isn't a translation you've posted, its an interpretation. An overly sensitive one.

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Anonymous wrote:Ever since Jada was quoted in an article saying she can't relate to white women I've detested her. She's just ridiculous and her lack of self awareness is hilarious. She was raised wealthy and married a multimillionaire yet she pretends to be "street" merely for show. She and her crazy husband have ruined their kids.

How do they pretend to be street? Also when you hear Oscar speeches like Patricia Arquette's about wage inequality that are clearly intended to advocate for white women I can't blame Jada if she feels disconnected.

Patricia Arquette's speech "'To every woman who gave birth, to every taxpayer and citizen of this nation, we have fought for everybody else’s equal rights. It’s our time to have wage equality once and for all and equal rights for women in the United States of America.'"

I don't get it. Where did she say "except black women and Jada Pinkett Smith"?

"It's time for all of the women in America and all the men that love women, all the gay people, and all the people of color that we've fought for to fight for us now"

Translate: white men, gay people and racial minorities

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Anonymous wrote:I'll believe it when they announce it.

Me too. Those 2 annoying ass people deserve each other.

+1

And I usually am very live and let about how others raise their children but anytime I see something about how they raise theirs (or see those poor kids) for some reason I want to find Will and Jada and kick them both in the a-frame.

Thank you for making me laugh out loud. I've had a shitty day and this really helped brighten my mood

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Anonymous wrote:Ever since Jada was quoted in an article saying she can't relate to white women I've detested her. She's just ridiculous and her lack of self awareness is hilarious. She was raised wealthy and married a multimillionaire yet she pretends to be "street" merely for show. She and her crazy husband have ruined their kids.

How do they pretend to be street? Also when you hear Oscar speeches like Patricia Arquette's about wage inequality that are clearly intended to advocate for white women I can't blame Jada if she feels disconnected.

Patricia Arquette's speech "'To every woman who gave birth, to every taxpayer and citizen of this nation, we have fought for everybody else’s equal rights. It’s our time to have wage equality once and for all and equal rights for women in the United States of America.'"

I don't get it. Where did she say "except black women and Jada Pinkett Smith"?

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Anonymous wrote:Ever since Jada was quoted in an article saying she can't relate to white women I've detested her. She's just ridiculous and her lack of self awareness is hilarious. She was raised wealthy and married a multimillionaire yet she pretends to be "street" merely for show. She and her crazy husband have ruined their kids.

How do they pretend to be street? Also when you hear Oscar speeches like Patricia Arquette's about wage inequality that are clearly intended to advocate for white women I can't blame Jada if she feels disconnected.

This a truly idiotic comment.

Anonymous wrote:Ever since Jada was quoted in an article saying she can't relate to white women I've detested her. She's just ridiculous and her lack of self awareness is hilarious. She was raised wealthy and married a multimillionaire yet she pretends to be "street" merely for show. She and her crazy husband have ruined their kids.

How do they pretend to be street? Also when you hear Oscar speeches like Patricia Arquette's about wage inequality that are clearly intended to advocate for white women I can't blame Jada if she feels disconnected.

Anonymous wrote:Ever since Jada was quoted in an article saying she can't relate to white women I've detested her. She's just ridiculous and her lack of self awareness is hilarious. She was raised wealthy and married a multimillionaire yet she pretends to be "street" merely for show. She and her crazy husband have ruined their kids.

Nope. She was raised in Baltimore with working class parents. Yes, she did marry a man who acquired his wealth through television.

Will says it's not true.
http://www.tmz.com/2015/08/03/will-smith-jada-pinkett-divorce-divorcing-not-true/

Jada is incredibly kind and very smart and down to earth. Very very funny too. I worked on a 10 week project with her. I'm sorry to hear about this.