Anonymous wrote:OP, the only thing that really works long-term are programs like Weight Watchers that don't restrict what type of food you can eat, but rather teach you about portion control and nutrition and permanently change your eating habits. I doubt you'll have the same long-term success with a short-term diet fix like Atkins.

It has been my observation that a low carb/healthy fat diet improves my lab work like nobody's business. I have never done Weight Watchers but I have done low calorie/portion controlled diets and those don't seem to have the same positive impact on my lab work. Most of the folks that I see on WW have a fair amount of processed carbs in their diet. They are more likely to be the ones eating lean pockets and snackwells and I am slowly but surely getting away from those types of food choices.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, the only thing that really works long-term are programs like Weight Watchers that don't restrict what type of food you can eat, but rather teach you about portion control and nutrition and permanently change your eating habits. I doubt you'll have the same long-term success with a short-term diet fix like Atkins.

Atkins has a phase 4 long term plan. Weight Watchers... which I have done also, is fine, but you do realize it has an "Atkins" type program too?

Which one? If you are referring to Simple Start it is not like Atkins at all. They encourage a variety of whole grains in addition to produce and lean protein.

Points Plus

You are high. Points Plus is NOTHING like Atkins. My DH lost 50+ pounds on Points Plus and ate plenty of carbs. If you eat whole grains they have a lower point value b/c they are high in fiber.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, the only thing that really works long-term are programs like Weight Watchers that don't restrict what type of food you can eat, but rather teach you about portion control and nutrition and permanently change your eating habits. I doubt you'll have the same long-term success with a short-term diet fix like Atkins.

Atkins has a phase 4 long term plan. Weight Watchers... which I have done also, is fine, but you do realize it has an "Atkins" type program too?

Which one? If you are referring to Simple Start it is not like Atkins at all. They encourage a variety of whole grains in addition to produce and lean protein.

Points Plus

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Anonymous wrote:OP, the only thing that really works long-term are programs like Weight Watchers that don't restrict what type of food you can eat, but rather teach you about portion control and nutrition and permanently change your eating habits. I doubt you'll have the same long-term success with a short-term diet fix like Atkins.

Atkins has a phase 4 long term plan. Weight Watchers... which I have done also, is fine, but you do realize it has an "Atkins" type program too?

Which one? If you are referring to Simple Start it is not like Atkins at all. They encourage a variety of whole grains in addition to produce and lean protein.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't Atkins low carb?

Yup.

Only Americans are obsessed with "low carb." Yet American are among the world's fattest people. We are so warped, screwed up, and disordered when it comes to food, diet, and nutrition.

Yeah, but it's not the low carbers who are fat...it's the people who follow the USDA recommendations for 11 servings of grain.

Grain doesn't make you fat. Processed carbs make you fat.

An excess of carbohydrate intake makes you fat, whether that's from whole grains, white flour, or sugar. Processed carbs just do it faster.

AN excess of anything, including protein, makes you fat. Most Americans get WAY nore protein than they need, and those people are just as fat as the people who exceed the grains recommendations.

I swear to god, the people who know so little about nutrition and spout their pseudo science as fact make me ill.

You can always pursue credential in nutrition I guess. Registered dieticians (RDs), the USDA, and the American Dietetic Association still push a low fat high carb diet, and recently chose Kraft Singles as the first food that will carry the ADA seal of approval on the package.

I found this last statement hard to believe, so I googled and lo and behold it's true.
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/03/12/a-cheese-product-wins-kids-nutrition-seal/?_r=0

Yes, there's more "pseudo science" spouted by RDs, the USDA, and the ADA than anywhere else.

Anonymous wrote:OP, the only thing that really works long-term are programs like Weight Watchers that don't restrict what type of food you can eat, but rather teach you about portion control and nutrition and permanently change your eating habits. I doubt you'll have the same long-term success with a short-term diet fix like Atkins.

Atkins has a phase 4 long term plan. Weight Watchers... which I have done also, is fine, but you do realize it has an "Atkins" type program too?

Anonymous wrote:^Little to no fruit and whole grains which are necessary for fiber and heart health

For 2 weeks? You think it is unhealthy to go with only berries and melons and no whole grains for 2 weeks?

But being very overweight is hearth healthy? The 1st two weeks just kids your system into gear and gets rid of cravings and sugar highs/lows.

^^Someone paid someone I guess. ADA sells their credibility to the highest bidder.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't Atkins low carb?

Yup.

Only Americans are obsessed with "low carb." Yet American are among the world's fattest people. We are so warped, screwed up, and disordered when it comes to food, diet, and nutrition.

Yeah, but it's not the low carbers who are fat...it's the people who follow the USDA recommendations for 11 servings of grain.

Grain doesn't make you fat. Processed carbs make you fat.

An excess of carbohydrate intake makes you fat, whether that's from whole grains, white flour, or sugar. Processed carbs just do it faster.

AN excess of anything, including protein, makes you fat. Most Americans get WAY nore protein than they need, and those people are just as fat as the people who exceed the grains recommendations.

I swear to god, the people who know so little about nutrition and spout their pseudo science as fact make me ill.

You can always pursue credential in nutrition I guess. Registered dieticians (RDs), the USDA, and the American Dietetic Association still push a low fat high carb diet, and recently chose Kraft Singles as the first food that will carry the ADA seal of approval on the package.

I found this last statement hard to believe, so I googled and lo and behold it's true.
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/03/12/a-cheese-product-wins-kids-nutrition-seal/?_r=0

OP, the only thing that really works long-term are programs like Weight Watchers that don't restrict what type of food you can eat, but rather teach you about portion control and nutrition and permanently change your eating habits. I doubt you'll have the same long-term success with a short-term diet fix like Atkins.

^I will also add that most of what people are cutting out of their diets with Atkins is usually not that great for them - lots of processed foods, white flour, sugar. Not bulgar wheat.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't Atkins low carb?

Yup.

Only Americans are obsessed with "low carb." Yet American are among the world's fattest people. We are so warped, screwed up, and disordered when it comes to food, diet, and nutrition.

Yeah, but it's not the low carbers who are fat...it's the people who follow the USDA recommendations for 11 servings of grain.

Grain doesn't make you fat. Processed carbs make you fat.

An excess of carbohydrate intake makes you fat, whether that's from whole grains, white flour, or sugar. Processed carbs just do it faster.

AN excess of anything, including protein, makes you fat. Most Americans get WAY nore protein than they need, and those people are just as fat as the people who exceed the grains recommendations.

I swear to god, the people who know so little about nutrition and spout their pseudo science as fact make me ill.

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You clearly don't understand the Atkins diet.

http://www.atkins.com/how-it-works/atkins-20/phase-1/tips-and-advice

3 meals a daay, 2 snacks, lots of water, 4-6 oz of meat per meal, 3 T of fat, lots of veggies. Wow! Sounds very unhealthy.

Actually, it does. The veggies don't negate the damage caused by an imbalanced diet.

Actually, it's very effective for weight loss and it's easy calorie reduction without a lot of thought. You basically eat your meat and veggie while foregoing the starchy side. Once you've lost weight you can add back in some whole grains, fruits. You just have to THINK about calories again and that trips people up. But if you can learn to systematically add in your whole grains/fruits as opposed to "Yay! I get to have pasta and pizza again. Woohoo!" You will have greater chances for long term success.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't Atkins low carb?

Yup.

Only Americans are obsessed with "low carb." Yet American are among the world's fattest people. We are so warped, screwed up, and disordered when it comes to food, diet, and nutrition.

Yeah, but it's not the low carbers who are fat...it's the people who follow the USDA recommendations for 11 servings of grain.

Grain doesn't make you fat. Processed carbs make you fat.

An excess of carbohydrate intake makes you fat, whether that's from whole grains, white flour, or sugar. Processed carbs just do it faster.

AN excess of anything, including protein, makes you fat. Most Americans get WAY nore protein than they need, and those people are just as fat as the people who exceed the grains recommendations.

I swear to god, the people who know so little about nutrition and spout their pseudo science as fact make me ill.

You can always pursue credential in nutrition I guess. Registered dieticians (RDs), the USDA, and the American Dietetic Association still push a low fat high carb diet, and recently chose Kraft Singles as the first food that will carry the ADA seal of approval on the package.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't Atkins low carb?

Yup.

Only Americans are obsessed with "low carb." Yet American are among the world's fattest people. We are so warped, screwed up, and disordered when it comes to food, diet, and nutrition.

Yeah, but it's not the low carbers who are fat...it's the people who follow the USDA recommendations for 11 servings of grain.

Grain doesn't make you fat. Processed carbs make you fat.

An excess of carbohydrate intake makes you fat, whether that's from whole grains, white flour, or sugar. Processed carbs just do it faster.

AN excess of anything, including protein, makes you fat. Most Americans get WAY nore protein than they need, and those people are just as fat as the people who exceed the grains recommendations.

I swear to god, the people who know so little about nutrition and spout their pseudo science as fact make me ill.

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You clearly don't understand the Atkins diet.

http://www.atkins.com/how-it-works/atkins-20/phase-1/tips-and-advice

3 meals a daay, 2 snacks, lots of water, 4-6 oz of meat per meal, 3 T of fat, lots of veggies. Wow! Sounds very unhealthy.

Actually, it does. The veggies don't negate the damage caused by an imbalanced diet.

^Little to no fruit and whole grains which are necessary for fiber and heart health