Anonymous
Post 07/28/2015 10:26     Subject: Re:egg donor antitrust lawsuit
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Agree that society should tilt towards those donating, who tend to be poorer and in worse positions financially than those seeking DE. We should not be prioritizing middle class DE seekers over women who truly could use a leg up in life. It seems so unfair to short change those women for the benefit of some middle class couple having an egg. Sorry, life isn't fair and we can't all have kids.


Clearly you are not going through IVF and have found out your only hope of a child is through DE. This is such an insensitive statement.


Some people are just not destined to be parents. It is a huge tragedy I agree but life doesn't always work out.


Mmmm... your father has a stroke and needs a quadruple bypass and stents. Or your child needs a kidney. Are they not destined to live because without complex and expensive medical treatment they would die? Not so clear cut now, is it?

There's a difference between maintaining a life and creating a new one.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2015 10:24     Subject: Re:egg donor antitrust lawsuit
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I find the infertility entitlement just plain nuts. Nobody has any obligation to keep DE prices low just so that poorer couples have this option open to them.


Do you know about IF treatment costs? Some people will have spent over a 100K by the time the Dr tells them they need to switch to donor eggs or bust. This is not exactly some handout for poor people were talking about. It's middle class couples who put their savings into this.

And then a shocker for you - kidney donations are free. What's up with that crazy kidney entitlement, huh? Nuts, nuts, nuts! Up until your kid needs one.


Actually, kidney donations have only really taken off since they started the paired donation transplant program - there's a "chain reaction" where someone is getting a kidney for their loved one in exchange for giving to a patient they don't know.

Altruism is great, and amazing, and there certainly are some altruistic people in the world. But make no mistake, compensation in some form (such as getting a kidney for someone you know) drives far more participation, more options, and more success because it attracts more people.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2015 10:21     Subject: Re:egg donor antitrust lawsuit
I live in the UK and I think there is a DE supply problem here. There is a poster up at my office asking women to donate eggs!
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2015 10:17     Subject: Re:egg donor antitrust lawsuit
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I find the infertility entitlement just plain nuts. Nobody has any obligation to keep DE prices low just so that poorer couples have this option open to them.


Do you know about IF treatment costs? Some people will have spent over a 100K by the time the Dr tells them they need to switch to donor eggs or bust. This is not exactly some handout for poor people were talking about. It's middle class couples who put their savings into this.

And then a shocker for you - kidney donations are free. What's up with that crazy kidney entitlement, huh? Nuts, nuts, nuts! Up until your kid needs one.

Does kidney donation create another life with your genetic material?
There is a psychological cost to egg donation, one that young women donating may not fully realize.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2015 10:15     Subject: Re:egg donor antitrust lawsuit
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That's actually an interesting idea. I guess technically there is no shortage of eggs but eggs aren't free. There are various costs attached to retrieving them, costs associated with matching eggs to people who want them, and finally costs associated with giving away valuable genetic material.


There would certainly be a shortage if the eggs were free, of course.


What about the countries where egg donation is 100% altruistic? The UK, Czech Republic, Spain, etc? From what I've read, there is no supply and demand problem.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2015 10:07     Subject: Re:egg donor antitrust lawsuit
Yes but in the case of my father needing complex medical interventions the bodily sovereignty of another human being is not at stake. In the case of a kidney transplant, it is. However these are both life and death issues.

Infertility is not.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2015 10:02     Subject: Re:egg donor antitrust lawsuit
Anonymous wrote:That's actually an interesting idea. I guess technically there is no shortage of eggs but eggs aren't free. There are various costs attached to retrieving them, costs associated with matching eggs to people who want them, and finally costs associated with giving away valuable genetic material.


There would certainly be a shortage if the eggs were free, of course.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2015 10:00     Subject: Re:egg donor antitrust lawsuit
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Agree that society should tilt towards those donating, who tend to be poorer and in worse positions financially than those seeking DE. We should not be prioritizing middle class DE seekers over women who truly could use a leg up in life. It seems so unfair to short change those women for the benefit of some middle class couple having an egg. Sorry, life isn't fair and we can't all have kids.


Clearly you are not going through IVF and have found out your only hope of a child is through DE. This is such an insensitive statement.


Some people are just not destined to be parents. It is a huge tragedy I agree but life doesn't always work out.


Mmmm... your father has a stroke and needs a quadruple bypass and stents. Or your child needs a kidney. Are they not destined to live because without complex and expensive medical treatment they would die? Not so clear cut now, is it?
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2015 09:58     Subject: Re:egg donor antitrust lawsuit
Anonymous wrote:I find the infertility entitlement just plain nuts. Nobody has any obligation to keep DE prices low just so that poorer couples have this option open to them.


Do you know about IF treatment costs? Some people will have spent over a 100K by the time the Dr tells them they need to switch to donor eggs or bust. This is not exactly some handout for poor people were talking about. It's middle class couples who put their savings into this.

And then a shocker for you - kidney donations are free. What's up with that crazy kidney entitlement, huh? Nuts, nuts, nuts! Up until your kid needs one.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2015 09:51     Subject: Re:egg donor antitrust lawsuit
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a PhD from HYP, blue eyes, division one athlete. You better believe my eggs - which are not a body part as they are shed every month - are worth more than other eggs. Same goes for any East Asian woman. There are very few Asian donors. Of the price were higher maybe more would donate. I, for one, would. I'm not donating for a paltry 5k. Not worth the medical risks at that price.


Your eggs are worth what people are willing to pay. If 5k is too little, then don't donate. You assume the ideal is blonde hair and blue eyes, which is a false assumption. I would pay more for the Harvard PhD, but the blonde hair is nothing g


The blonde hair is actually problematic.


Funny thing is that I'm not blond and never stated so in my OP.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2015 09:50     Subject: Re:egg donor antitrust lawsuit
That's actually an interesting idea. I guess technically there is no shortage of eggs but eggs aren't free. There are various costs attached to retrieving them, costs associated with matching eggs to people who want them, and finally costs associated with giving away valuable genetic material.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2015 09:48     Subject: Re:egg donor antitrust lawsuit
Anonymous wrote:Can folks with infertility truly not see the other side of this debate?


Here's the question- is there a shortage of eggs?
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2015 09:45     Subject: Re:egg donor antitrust lawsuit
Can folks with infertility truly not see the other side of this debate?
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2015 09:18     Subject: Re:egg donor antitrust lawsuit
Thank you, 09:15!!! I wish I could give you a huge hug right now.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2015 09:15     Subject: egg donor antitrust lawsuit


Agree that society should tilt towards those donating, who tend to be poorer and in worse positions financially than those seeking DE. We should not be prioritizing middle class DE seekers over women who truly could use a leg up in life. It seems so unfair to short change those women for the benefit of some middle class couple having an egg. Sorry, life isn't fair and we can't all have kids.


Kindly FUCK OFF!