Anonymous
06/18/2015 13:06
Subject: If your mixed race child looked white when 2 years old, did he/she stay that way?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I had a neighbor who was pale skinned, blond hair, blue eyed. Father was japenese and mom was American. Her daughter (whose dad was American) looked far more mixed.
Genes are funny.
What do you mean by "American"? I am ethnically Chinese and 100% "American." American does NOT equal white.
So many people trying to start arguments on this thread instead of sticking to the original question!
NP. It's a casually racist thing to say -- to imply that people of Asian ethnic origin are somehow not really American. note that when speaking of people of ?German, Scottish, Dutch heritage, you don't call them "German" or "Scottish" the way PP called her neighbor's father"Japanese." You say they are of German descent. You don't call into question their status as Americans.
PP was correct to call the other poster on it. And you, PP, are offensive in dismissing the racism.
Or was the father Japanese, as in from Japan, but an American citizen? Sorry to break it to you, but someone who is Japanese and from Japan can still be an American. There's this little process called naturalization.
The neighbors father was actually Japanese. From Japan. Christ.
And the mom was "American" meaning she was ethnically Japanese, born in the US?
Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Anonymous
06/18/2015 13:04
Subject: If your mixed race child looked white when 2 years old, did he/she stay that way?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I had a neighbor who was pale skinned, blond hair, blue eyed. Father was japenese and mom was American. Her daughter (whose dad was American) looked far more mixed.
Genes are funny.
What do you mean by "American"? I am ethnically Chinese and 100% "American." American does NOT equal white.
So many people trying to start arguments on this thread instead of sticking to the original question!
NP. It's a casually racist thing to say -- to imply that people of Asian ethnic origin are somehow not really American. note that when speaking of people of ?German, Scottish, Dutch heritage, you don't call them "German" or "Scottish" the way PP called her neighbor's father"Japanese." You say they are of German descent. You don't call into question their status as Americans.
PP was correct to call the other poster on it. And you, PP, are offensive in dismissing the racism.
My naturalized citizen Asian immigrant husband often uses "american" as a synonym for "white", as in, "we should hang out with this guy i know from work, his wife is american too!" I'll let him know that you are VERY offended by this and that in order to avoid being a traitor to his race he should actually take pains to describe everyone by their original ethnic origins instead
NP here. Please do pass this along to your naturalized immigrant (redundant to say immigrant, if you've said naturalized already) husband. Let him know it contributes to the "othering" of Asians as people who can't truly be American.
Signed, also a naturalized Asian.
LOLOLOLOL!
New poster here. My Asian DH who became a citizen about a decade ago also calls white people "Americans" in the same way. Exactly the same way as PP -- "Oh, his wife is American like you!"
Maybe, PP, just maybe, you are overly sensitive and it's not some huge, nefarious "othering" conspiracy.
DH went to Oxford and is an attorney, though, so he doesn't have any inferiority complexes about his race... like you seem to have?
No, your Asian DH is betraying his own sense that he's not really "American." Quite understandable for someone who's only been naturalized 10 years.
Asian Americans whose families have been here for generations, were born here, or naturalized when very young have grown up having to fighting accusations that we are not really American, so it's part of our experience of racism in America and a sensitive topic. NB: Have you ever heard of Manzanar?
Obviously, you know everything about race and Asian Americans because you are "married to one." And WTF does going to Oxford and being an attorney have anything to do with race? You're implying that those of us who disagree with you must be uneducated, poor scum? You sound like a complete idiot.
Anonymous
06/18/2015 12:54
Subject: If your mixed race child looked white when 2 years old, did he/she stay that way?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I had a neighbor who was pale skinned, blond hair, blue eyed. Father was japenese and mom was American. Her daughter (whose dad was American) looked far more mixed.
Genes are funny.
What do you mean by "American"? I am ethnically Chinese and 100% "American." American does NOT equal white.
So many people trying to start arguments on this thread instead of sticking to the original question!
NP. It's a casually racist thing to say -- to imply that people of Asian ethnic origin are somehow not really American. note that when speaking of people of ?German, Scottish, Dutch heritage, you don't call them "German" or "Scottish" the way PP called her neighbor's father"Japanese." You say they are of German descent. You don't call into question their status as Americans.
PP was correct to call the other poster on it. And you, PP, are offensive in dismissing the racism.
My naturalized citizen Asian immigrant husband often uses "american" as a synonym for "white", as in, "we should hang out with this guy i know from work, his wife is american too!" I'll let him know that you are VERY offended by this and that in order to avoid being a traitor to his race he should actually take pains to describe everyone by their original ethnic origins instead
NP here. Please do pass this along to your naturalized immigrant (redundant to say immigrant, if you've said naturalized already) husband. Let him know it contributes to the "othering" of Asians as people who can't truly be American.
Signed, also a naturalized Asian.
LOLOLOLOL!
New poster here. My Asian DH who became a citizen about a decade ago also calls white people "Americans" in the same way. Exactly the same way as PP -- "Oh, his wife is American like you!"
Maybe, PP, just maybe, you are overly sensitive and it's not some huge, nefarious "othering" conspiracy.
DH went to Oxford and is an attorney, though, so he doesn't have any inferiority complexes about his race... like you seem to have?
Anonymous
06/18/2015 12:45
Subject: If your mixed race child looked white when 2 years old, did he/she stay that way?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I had a neighbor who was pale skinned, blond hair, blue eyed. Father was japenese and mom was American. Her daughter (whose dad was American) looked far more mixed.
Genes are funny.
What do you mean by "American"? I am ethnically Chinese and 100% "American." American does NOT equal white.
So many people trying to start arguments on this thread instead of sticking to the original question!
NP. It's a casually racist thing to say -- to imply that people of Asian ethnic origin are somehow not really American. note that when speaking of people of ?German, Scottish, Dutch heritage, you don't call them "German" or "Scottish" the way PP called her neighbor's father"Japanese." You say they are of German descent. You don't call into question their status as Americans.
PP was correct to call the other poster on it. And you, PP, are offensive in dismissing the racism.
The neighbors father was actually Japanese. From Japan. Christ.
And the mom was "American" meaning she was ethnically Japanese, born in the US?
Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Anonymous
06/18/2015 11:21
Subject: If your mixed race child looked white when 2 years old, did he/she stay that way?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My son had blond hair as a young kid. It turned light brown by about 3 years old. In the winter his skin is as white as mine (German/Scottish heritage). In the summer, with a dark tan, he looks much more like his father, who is North African. His hair is a mix of sub-saharan African tight curls and my straight hair. He's 10.
Oddly, all my white friends and acquaintances think he looks 100% white. My non-white friends and acquaintances of any background immediately think he's biracial. His Japanese day care worker was the first to ask me if he was "mixed." And that's back when he had blond hair.
THIS. My 2-year-old half Indian/half Scandinavian DD has this happen to her all the time. My white friends are convinced she looks completely white, but the minute any Indian/Latina/Arab woman sees her, they start probing about my family... because, I later realized, they know she's of mixed race and they all think that maybe my husband is from their country.
The weird, and potentially disturbing thing, about all this is that, I'm really the same way, as I'm white and she looks white to me. When I look at her, I really can't see her as anything other than white. I try, and I still don't see it.
I'm that PP and same here. Although as my son hits tweens and maybe puberty soon, I think he's going to end up looking more North African. I'm starting to see a bit of that now.
Anonymous
06/18/2015 07:40
Subject: If your mixed race child looked white when 2 years old, did he/she stay that way?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I had a neighbor who was pale skinned, blond hair, blue eyed. Father was japenese and mom was American. Her daughter (whose dad was American) looked far more mixed.
Genes are funny.
What do you mean by "American"? I am ethnically Chinese and 100% "American." American does NOT equal white.
So many people trying to start arguments on this thread instead of sticking to the original question!
NP. It's a casually racist thing to say -- to imply that people of Asian ethnic origin are somehow not really American. note that when speaking of people of ?German, Scottish, Dutch heritage, you don't call them "German" or "Scottish" the way PP called her neighbor's father"Japanese." You say they are of German descent. You don't call into question their status as Americans.
PP was correct to call the other poster on it. And you, PP, are offensive in dismissing the racism.
The neighbors father was actually Japanese. From Japan. Christ.
Anonymous
06/18/2015 00:39
Subject: If your mixed race child looked white when 2 years old, did he/she stay that way?
My husband is 100% Chinese and I'm Italian/British mix. DDs 1&3 look just like me. There's no hint of Chinese except for their darker brown eyes and hair. DD 2 is a fascinating blend--Chinese features with light brown hair and hazel eyes (just like mine). They have not changed significantly with age.
Anonymous
06/17/2015 23:47
Subject: If your mixed race child looked white when 2 years old, did he/she stay that way?
Biracial kids are a total wild card, and their looks can change over time. In my case, my mom is black (but 1/4 heritage from the Azores, a group of islands off mainland Portugal), dad is southeast Asian. My bros and I all look different:
Bro #1-born with a cafe au lait complexion, jet black hair and blue eyes, now has green eyes and looks like a light-skinned black person or maybe Puerto Rican.
Bro # 2-born light brown with jet black hair and dark brown eyes, now medium brown and looks black or black/Arab mix
me-as a baby I was completely pinkish white w/reddish hair, bright blue eyes, and a flattish nose (kind of a strange combo, lol). Now, I'm still pretty light (mistaken for Jewish, Puerto Rican, Arab, etc.) but with a more "Roman nose" and still with blue eyes.
All of us darkened a bit over time--although my younger bro (w/the brown eyes) much more than myself or older bro.
Again, biracial kids are always a wild card--you never know what you're going to get, and how that may change over time! Two years old is still too young to tell with certainty, IMO.
Bro #1-born with a cafe au lait complexion, jet black hair and blue eyes, now has green eyes and looks like a light-skinned black person or maybe Puerto Rican.
Bro # 2-born light brown with jet black hair and dark brown eyes, now medium brown and looks black or black/Arab mix
me-as a baby I was completely pinkish white w/reddish hair, bright blue eyes, and a flattish nose (kind of a strange combo, lol). Now, I'm still pretty light (mistaken for Jewish, Puerto Rican, Arab, etc.) but with a more "Roman nose" and still with blue eyes.
All of us darkened a bit over time--although my younger bro (w/the brown eyes) much more than myself or older bro.
Again, biracial kids are always a wild card--you never know what you're going to get, and how that may change over time! Two years old is still too young to tell with certainty, IMO.
Anonymous
06/17/2015 21:48
Subject: If your mixed race child looked white when 2 years old, did he/she stay that way?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I had a neighbor who was pale skinned, blond hair, blue eyed. Father was japenese and mom was American. Her daughter (whose dad was American) looked far more mixed.
Genes are funny.
What do you mean by "American"? I am ethnically Chinese and 100% "American." American does NOT equal white.
So many people trying to start arguments on this thread instead of sticking to the original question!
NP. It's a casually racist thing to say -- to imply that people of Asian ethnic origin are somehow not really American. note that when speaking of people of ?German, Scottish, Dutch heritage, you don't call them "German" or "Scottish" the way PP called her neighbor's father"Japanese." You say they are of German descent. You don't call into question their status as Americans.
PP was correct to call the other poster on it. And you, PP, are offensive in dismissing the racism.
My naturalized citizen Asian immigrant husband often uses "american" as a synonym for "white", as in, "we should hang out with this guy i know from work, his wife is american too!" I'll let him know that you are VERY offended by this and that in order to avoid being a traitor to his race he should actually take pains to describe everyone by their original ethnic origins instead
NP here. Please do pass this along to your naturalized immigrant (redundant to say immigrant, if you've said naturalized already) husband. Let him know it contributes to the "othering" of Asians as people who can't truly be American.
Signed, also a naturalized Asian.
Anonymous
06/17/2015 21:42
Subject: If your mixed race child looked white when 2 years old, did he/she stay that way?
Anonymous wrote:My son had blond hair as a young kid. It turned light brown by about 3 years old. In the winter his skin is as white as mine (German/Scottish heritage). In the summer, with a dark tan, he looks much more like his father, who is North African. His hair is a mix of sub-saharan African tight curls and my straight hair. He's 10.
Oddly, all my white friends and acquaintances think he looks 100% white. My non-white friends and acquaintances of any background immediately think he's biracial. His Japanese day care worker was the first to ask me if he was "mixed." And that's back when he had blond hair.
THIS. My 2-year-old half Indian/half Scandinavian DD has this happen to her all the time. My white friends are convinced she looks completely white, but the minute any Indian/Latina/Arab woman sees her, they start probing about my family... because, I later realized, they know she's of mixed race and they all think that maybe my husband is from their country.
The weird, and potentially disturbing thing, about all this is that, I'm really the same way, as I'm white and she looks white to me. When I look at her, I really can't see her as anything other than white. I try, and I still don't see it.
Anonymous
06/17/2015 21:41
Subject: If your mixed race child looked white when 2 years old, did he/she stay that way?
jAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I had a neighbor who was pale skinned, blond hair, blue eyed. Father was japenese and mom was American. Her daughter (whose dad was American) looked far more mixed.
Genes are funny.
What do you mean by "American"? I am ethnically Chinese and 100% "American." American does NOT equal white.
So many people trying to start arguments on this thread instead of sticking to the original question!
NP. It's a casually racist thing to say -- to imply that people of Asian ethnic origin are somehow not really American. note that when speaking of people of ?German, Scottish, Dutch heritage, you don't call them "German" or "Scottish" the way PP called her neighbor's father"Japanese." You say they are of German descent. You don't call into question their status as Americans.
PP was correct to call the other poster on it. And you, PP, are offensive in dismissing the racism.
My naturalized citizen Asian immigrant husband often uses "american" as a synonym for "white", as in, "we should hang out with this guy i know from work, his wife is american too!" I'll let him know that you are VERY offended by this and that in order to avoid being a traitor to his race he should actually take pains to describe everyone by their original ethnic origins instead
Oh please. Chinese PP is only fake shocked. I imagine her parents also called white people Americans growing up and probably still do. I wonder if she corrects them. This is very, very common among immigrants. My own parents did the same thing, despite the fact that they are naturalized american citizens and their children are natural born...
Anonymous
06/17/2015 21:39
Subject: If your mixed race child looked white when 2 years old, did he/she stay that way?
Mine are japanese/taiwainese + northern european mixed. One can pass for white now, but was more asian-y when she was younger. Though I think anyone familiar with half-kids would guess. The other looks just like her (asian) dad but with spiral curls instead of stick straight dark hair. She looks basically the same since birth.
Anonymous
06/17/2015 21:34
Subject: If your mixed race child looked white when 2 years old, did he/she stay that way?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I had a neighbor who was pale skinned, blond hair, blue eyed. Father was japenese and mom was American. Her daughter (whose dad was American) looked far more mixed.
Genes are funny.
What do you mean by "American"? I am ethnically Chinese and 100% "American." American does NOT equal white.
So many people trying to start arguments on this thread instead of sticking to the original question!
NP. It's a casually racist thing to say -- to imply that people of Asian ethnic origin are somehow not really American. note that when speaking of people of ?German, Scottish, Dutch heritage, you don't call them "German" or "Scottish" the way PP called her neighbor's father"Japanese." You say they are of German descent. You don't call into question their status as Americans.
PP was correct to call the other poster on it. And you, PP, are offensive in dismissing the racism.
My naturalized citizen Asian immigrant husband often uses "american" as a synonym for "white", as in, "we should hang out with this guy i know from work, his wife is american too!" I'll let him know that you are VERY offended by this and that in order to avoid being a traitor to his race he should actually take pains to describe everyone by their original ethnic origins instead
Anonymous
06/17/2015 21:23
Subject: If your mixed race child looked white when 2 years old, did he/she stay that way?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I had a neighbor who was pale skinned, blond hair, blue eyed. Father was japenese and mom was American. Her daughter (whose dad was American) looked far more mixed.
Genes are funny.
What do you mean by "American"? I am ethnically Chinese and 100% "American." American does NOT equal white.
So many people trying to start arguments on this thread instead of sticking to the original question!
NP. It's a casually racist thing to say -- to imply that people of Asian ethnic origin are somehow not really American. note that when speaking of people of ?German, Scottish, Dutch heritage, you don't call them "German" or "Scottish" the way PP called her neighbor's father"Japanese." You say they are of German descent. You don't call into question their status as Americans.
PP was correct to call the other poster on it. And you, PP, are offensive in dismissing the racism.
Anonymous
06/17/2015 20:45
Subject: If your mixed race child looked white when 2 years old, did he/she stay that way?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I had a neighbor who was pale skinned, blond hair, blue eyed. Father was japenese and mom was American. Her daughter (whose dad was American) looked far more mixed.
Genes are funny.
What do you mean by "American"? I am ethnically Chinese and 100% "American." American does NOT equal white.
So many people trying to start arguments on this thread instead of sticking to the original question!
Sigh. Apologies if I offended. It wasn't intentional. I merely meant her mom was not Japanese also. people find it unusual that her Asian heritage wasn't dominant.