If you work in the IC, you have to take training on counter intelligence. One of the ways spies can work is by dating IC workers. To avoid that, it is best to obscure the fact that you work for the IC.

Also, in some cases, the IC employs people with strong documented histories -- for example, you can google me and find out a lot of information about me -- about what I have done, published papers, etc...now, if you knew who I am and who I work for, you can surmise that things that should not be public.

The scary thing is how little the Federal Goverment pays these people. I work as a Firefighter for a local goverment in California and make $150,000 a year, and that's pretty normal. Looking at that web site, I make more than the Chief Forst Service Ranger in our area, and that's a high level job.

Red flag. Not worth it.

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Anonymous wrote:He either:
1. Has a low-level job and is trying to impress by being intentionally evasive OR
2. He works for an agency that is less than popular.

I agree with a pp that if he had a top secret clearance/position that he would have a cover story.

Not true. Many people with top secret clearances/positions are not undercover. He probably works at one of the intel agencies.

Maybe not technically undercover, but they would have a ready explanation that sounds plausible (IT or something). They do not call attention to themselves in this way.

NP. No, really, plenty of people have top secret clearances who don't need to be secretive about where they work and what they do. They can't discuss the top secret information they may be privy to or the work that involves that info, but they can tell you where they work and the kind of work they do. You wouldn't even know they have a top secret clearance.

Agreed with this. My husband has a TS clearance, he can say where he works and what he does. And he doesn't do anything all that exciting-sounding. He just can't tell you classified information.

TS, sure....TS/SCI not so much. I am not allowed to say who my customer is (I am a contractor), or what I do. Fortunately, I have some very public work which I can site as my career...

Not always the case. I know plenty of people with TS/SCI that work both for the government and for contractors that are allowed to say where they work and what they do. It really depends on the work.

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I have a TS clearance and am free to talk about where I work, just not always what I'm working on. I know plenty of people with TS/SCI who are in the same boat.

Agreed. I have TS/SCI & can say what I do. Just depends on how well
I know you if I want to go into details or just say I'm a govt analyst and leave it at that.

Anonymous wrote:Check here:

http://www.fedsdatacenter.com/federal-pay-rates/index.php

Yuck. I hate the fact that you can see how much we make. I feel naked.

My friend with the FBI doesn't like to say the name of "the agency" outloud in public because it can attract attention. I agree with other posters that someone who can't say what agency he works for would reveal clearance level.

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Anonymous wrote:He either:
1. Has a low-level job and is trying to impress by being intentionally evasive OR
2. He works for an agency that is less than popular.

I agree with a pp that if he had a top secret clearance/position that he would have a cover story.

Not true. Many people with top secret clearances/positions are not undercover. He probably works at one of the intel agencies.

Maybe not technically undercover, but they would have a ready explanation that sounds plausible (IT or something). They do not call attention to themselves in this way.

NP. No, really, plenty of people have top secret clearances who don't need to be secretive about where they work and what they do. They can't discuss the top secret information they may be privy to or the work that involves that info, but they can tell you where they work and the kind of work they do. You wouldn't even know they have a top secret clearance.

Agreed with this. My husband has a TS clearance, he can say where he works and what he does. And he doesn't do anything all that exciting-sounding. He just can't tell you classified information.

TS, sure....TS/SCI not so much. I am not allowed to say who my customer is (I am a contractor), or what I do. Fortunately, I have some very public work which I can site as my career...

Not always the case. I know plenty of people with TS/SCI that work both for the government and for contractors that are allowed to say where they work and what they do. It really depends on the work.

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I have a TS clearance and am free to talk about where I work, just not always what I'm working on. I know plenty of people with TS/SCI who are in the same boat.

Anonymous wrote:It means don't have high expectations concerning his level of wealth or income. Chicks don't really care where a guy works anyway--they are just trying to determine the guy's financial status, but "where do you work" is less rude than "how much money do you make?"

If he's here dating you OP something tells me he's not James Bond. Most likely he refills the toilet rolls in M's executive shitter. Or maybe he's Bill Paxton to your Jamie Lee Curtis.

+1! As Seinfeld would say, he's "undateable."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-a64OwOYqU

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Anonymous wrote:It means don't have high expectations concerning his level of wealth or income. Chicks don't really care where a guy works anyway--they are just trying to determine the guy's financial status, but "where do you work" is less rude than "how much money do you make?"

If he's here dating you OP something tells me he's not James Bond. Most likely he refills the toilet rolls in M's executive shitter. Or maybe he's Bill Paxton to your Jamie Lee Curtis.

I hope you don't really believe this. Not OP, but when I ask someone where they work or what they do, it's not remotely about trying to determine their income. It's because I'm interested in who they are. I LOVE the work I do, and it's a big part of who I am. Even if someone else doesn't feel the same about their own work, it's how they spend a huge chunk of their time. Income doesn't have anything to do with the question.

Most people are not thrilled with their jobs. You are lucky. Most work money.

I would be concerned - most contractors just state the company they work for - i.e. Lockheed, IT/Development. My husband is a contractor. It depends on who he is talking to as many people get funny if he says where he works. It is a hassle as someone stated with the no electronic devices by I have phone numbers to his co-workers in case of emergency. Hopefully one is at their desk. I don't know what my husband is working on and only have a basic idea of his job title. I don't ask so its not uncomfortable for him. He got into this while married so its no secret to me. But, not to say anything so you can basically feel comfortable is strange.

CIA they will tell you a story, but it's just a cover.

Anonymous wrote:It means don't have high expectations concerning his level of wealth or income. Chicks don't really care where a guy works anyway--they are just trying to determine the guy's financial status, but "where do you work" is less rude than "how much money do you make?"

If he's here dating you OP something tells me he's not James Bond. Most likely he refills the toilet rolls in M's executive shitter. Or maybe he's Bill Paxton to your Jamie Lee Curtis.

I hope you don't really believe this. Not OP, but when I ask someone where they work or what they do, it's not remotely about trying to determine their income. It's because I'm interested in who they are. I LOVE the work I do, and it's a big part of who I am. Even if someone else doesn't feel the same about their own work, it's how they spend a huge chunk of their time. Income doesn't have anything to do with the question.

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Anonymous wrote:CIA is no longer allowed to say they work for State. Could be CIA, DIA, DNI, or one of about 12 other agencies. Bigger than the question of trying to ferret out where he works is whether you want to get involved with someone whose work life is always going to be off-limits, which can create distance in a relationship.

It's better for a relationship, because you talk about your actual shared interests instead of what you did at work today.

I was the PP, and my own personal perspective is that what I did at work that day IS our shared interest. We met doing X, and I still do X, so that's something that we are comfortable talking about and which reflects our shared passion and interest. That doesn't mean that other relationships aren't perfectly healthy, just that my own personal experience is that job bleeds into life and it's nice that we both have the ability to talk to one another about it.

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Anonymous wrote:He either:
1. Has a low-level job and is trying to impress by being intentionally evasive OR
2. He works for an agency that is less than popular.

I agree with a pp that if he had a top secret clearance/position that he would have a cover story.

Not true. Many people with top secret clearances/positions are not undercover. He probably works at one of the intel agencies.

Maybe not technically undercover, but they would have a ready explanation that sounds plausible (IT or something). They do not call attention to themselves in this way.

NP. No, really, plenty of people have top secret clearances who don't need to be secretive about where they work and what they do. They can't discuss the top secret information they may be privy to or the work that involves that info, but they can tell you where they work and the kind of work they do. You wouldn't even know they have a top secret clearance.

Agreed with this. My husband has a TS clearance, he can say where he works and what he does. And he doesn't do anything all that exciting-sounding. He just can't tell you classified information.

TS, sure....TS/SCI not so much. I am not allowed to say who my customer is (I am a contractor), or what I do. Fortunately, I have some very public work which I can site as my career...

Not always the case. I know plenty of people with TS/SCI that work both for the government and for contractors that are allowed to say where they work and what they do. It really depends on the work.

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Anonymous wrote:He either:
1. Has a low-level job and is trying to impress by being intentionally evasive OR
2. He works for an agency that is less than popular.

I agree with a pp that if he had a top secret clearance/position that he would have a cover story.

Not true. Many people with top secret clearances/positions are not undercover. He probably works at one of the intel agencies.

Maybe not technically undercover, but they would have a ready explanation that sounds plausible (IT or something). They do not call attention to themselves in this way.

NP. No, really, plenty of people have top secret clearances who don't need to be secretive about where they work and what they do. They can't discuss the top secret information they may be privy to or the work that involves that info, but they can tell you where they work and the kind of work they do. You wouldn't even know they have a top secret clearance.

Agreed with this. My husband has a TS clearance, he can say where he works and what he does. And he doesn't do anything all that exciting-sounding. He just can't tell you classified information.

TS, sure....TS/SCI not so much. I am not allowed to say who my customer is (I am a contractor), or what I do. Fortunately, I have some very public work which I can site as my career...

Not always the case. I know plenty of people with TS/SCI that work both for the government and for contractors that are allowed to say where they work and what they do. It really depends on the work.