Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 13:32     Subject: SELT letter


My feeling is that many camp experiences really are learning experiences as well . . . things like cooking camp, robotics camp, chess camp, crafts at any camp, computer camp, etc. all provide opportunities to read and/or think in ways that are "learning". Plus they are much less like traditional "school" and more fun. I would put my kid in these kinds of camps in order to give them experiences and possibilities to learn through more "applied" activities.

And, if your kid is more field oriented, he/she probably needs the break from school and will probably get a lot of self esteem through sports or team sports type of camps.

Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 12:50     Subject: Re:SELT letter
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Anonymous wrote:Why would SELT teachers be taught AAP material? That makes no sense. This is a program for remediation.


I agree with you. It doesn't matter if kids are on target or even gifted in 1 area. It should be taught be top notch SN teachers. Some people become AAP teachers because they don't have the patience for a regular classroom or the talent and skill needed to reach the more challenging kids. There are kids with SN in AAP, but less of a range.


I know of three former AAP teachers at our center alone who chose to teach General Ed instead of AAP because the AAP classes were so frustrating. Too many kids sure they were smarter than the teacher and not afraid to act out.


What does this have to do with SELT? Nothing. Stay on topic.


It was a response to the PP's statement about AAP teachers, also not on topic. Duh.


AAP qualifications to teach SELT is relevant to the discussion. Teachers deciding to teach general ed instead of AAP is not related to SELT. Get it?


Maybe I worded it wrong. I wasn't saying there are twice exceptional kids in summer school. In fact, I doubt there are. What I was saying is the same AAP teachers who have little respect or interesting in helping for children with SN who need summer help are probably the same teachers who during the school year have little patience for twice exceptional kids in their AAP classes. They have no business teaching summer school.
It takes a certain level of training and/or creativity and dedication to help those with SN progress. My one experience with an AAP teachers teaching SELT is, low expectations and a condescending attitude. I'm sure these are probably the same AAP teachers who roll their eyes at having to accommodate twice exceptional kids in their classes.


That makes more sense. I am not sure who is qualified to teach SELT. It seems many people are dissatisfied with the program and it also appears more people are invited beyond those that really need SELT.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 12:30     Subject: Re:SELT letter
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Why would SELT teachers be taught AAP material? That makes no sense. This is a program for remediation.


I agree with you. It doesn't matter if kids are on target or even gifted in 1 area. It should be taught be top notch SN teachers. Some people become AAP teachers because they don't have the patience for a regular classroom or the talent and skill needed to reach the more challenging kids. There are kids with SN in AAP, but less of a range.


I know of three former AAP teachers at our center alone who chose to teach General Ed instead of AAP because the AAP classes were so frustrating. Too many kids sure they were smarter than the teacher and not afraid to act out.


What does this have to do with SELT? Nothing. Stay on topic.


It was a response to the PP's statement about AAP teachers, also not on topic. Duh.


AAP qualifications to teach SELT is relevant to the discussion. Teachers deciding to teach general ed instead of AAP is not related to SELT. Get it?



I[b] wasn't saying there are twice exceptional kids in summer school. In fact, I doubt there are. What I was saying is the same AAP teachers who have little respect or interesting in helping for children with SN who need summer help are probably the same teachers who during the school year have little patience for twice exceptional kids in their AAP classes. They have no business teaching summer school.
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Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 12:28     Subject: Re:SELT letter
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would SELT teachers be taught AAP material? That makes no sense. This is a program for remediation.


I agree with you. It doesn't matter if kids are on target or even gifted in 1 area. It should be taught be top notch SN teachers. Some people become AAP teachers because they don't have the patience for a regular classroom or the talent and skill needed to reach the more challenging kids. There are kids with SN in AAP, but less of a range.


I know of three former AAP teachers at our center alone who chose to teach General Ed instead of AAP because the AAP classes were so frustrating. Too many kids sure they were smarter than the teacher and not afraid to act out.


What does this have to do with SELT? Nothing. Stay on topic.


It was a response to the PP's statement about AAP teachers, also not on topic. Duh.


AAP qualifications to teach SELT is relevant to the discussion. Teachers deciding to teach general ed instead of AAP is not related to SELT. Get it?


Maybe I worded it wrong. I wasn't saying there are twice exceptional kids in summer school. In fact, I doubt there are. What I was saying is the same AAP teachers who have little respect or interesting in helping for children with SN who need summer help are probably the same teachers who during the school year have little patience for twice exceptional kids in their AAP classes. They have no business teaching summer school.
It takes a certain level of training and/or creativity and dedication to help those with SN progress. My one experience with an AAP teachers teaching SELT is, low expectations and a condescending attitude. I'm sure these are probably the same AAP teachers who roll their eyes at having to accommodate twice exceptional kids in their classes.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 12:16     Subject: Re:SELT letter
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would SELT teachers be taught AAP material? That makes no sense. This is a program for remediation.


I agree with you. It doesn't matter if kids are on target or even gifted in 1 area. It should be taught be top notch SN teachers. Some people become AAP teachers because they don't have the patience for a regular classroom or the talent and skill needed to reach the more challenging kids. There are kids with SN in AAP, but less of a range.


I know of three former AAP teachers at our center alone who chose to teach General Ed instead of AAP because the AAP classes were so frustrating. Too many kids sure they were smarter than the teacher and not afraid to act out.


What does this have to do with SELT? Nothing. Stay on topic.


It was a response to the PP's statement about AAP teachers, also not on topic. Duh.


AAP qualifications to teach SELT is relevant to the discussion. Teachers deciding to teach general ed instead of AAP is not related to SELT. Get it?


It takes a certain level of training and/or creativity and dedication to help those with SN progress. My one experience with an AAP teachers teaching SELT is, low expectations and a condescending attitude. I'm sure these are probably the same AAP teachers who roll their eyes at having to accommodate twice exceptional kids in their classes.


Why do twice exceptional kids need SELT though and why do they need AAP teachers especially if they aren't accommodating? If they are special needs, I don't believe summer school is required for them, especially if they are twice exceptional and able to do AAP work.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 11:58     Subject: Re:SELT letter
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would SELT teachers be taught AAP material? That makes no sense. This is a program for remediation.


I agree with you. It doesn't matter if kids are on target or even gifted in 1 area. It should be taught be top notch SN teachers. Some people become AAP teachers because they don't have the patience for a regular classroom or the talent and skill needed to reach the more challenging kids. There are kids with SN in AAP, but less of a range.


I know of three former AAP teachers at our center alone who chose to teach General Ed instead of AAP because the AAP classes were so frustrating. Too many kids sure they were smarter than the teacher and not afraid to act out.


What does this have to do with SELT? Nothing. Stay on topic.


It was a response to the PP's statement about AAP teachers, also not on topic. Duh.


AAP qualifications to teach SELT is relevant to the discussion. Teachers deciding to teach general ed instead of AAP is not related to SELT. Get it?


It takes a certain level of training and/or creativity and dedication to help those with SN progress. My one experience with an AAP teachers teaching SELT is, low expectations and a condescending attitude. I'm sure these are probably the same AAP teachers who roll their eyes at having to accommodate twice exceptional kids in their classes.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 11:53     Subject: SELT letter
My kid came home sunburned because apparently on such a nice day the teacher decided to have the kids take multiple outdoor play breaks which amounted to close to half of the time
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 11:10     Subject: Re:SELT letter
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would SELT teachers be taught AAP material? That makes no sense. This is a program for remediation.


I agree with you. It doesn't matter if kids are on target or even gifted in 1 area. It should be taught be top notch SN teachers. Some people become AAP teachers because they don't have the patience for a regular classroom or the talent and skill needed to reach the more challenging kids. There are kids with SN in AAP, but less of a range.


I know of three former AAP teachers at our center alone who chose to teach General Ed instead of AAP because the AAP classes were so frustrating. Too many kids sure they were smarter than the teacher and not afraid to act out.


Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 10:47     Subject: Re:SELT letter
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would SELT teachers be taught AAP material? That makes no sense. This is a program for remediation.


I agree with you. It doesn't matter if kids are on target or even gifted in 1 area. It should be taught be top notch SN teachers. Some people become AAP teachers because they don't have the patience for a regular classroom or the talent and skill needed to reach the more challenging kids. There are kids with SN in AAP, but less of a range.


I know of three former AAP teachers at our center alone who chose to teach General Ed instead of AAP because the AAP classes were so frustrating. Too many kids sure they were smarter than the teacher and not afraid to act out.


What does this have to do with SELT? Nothing. Stay on topic.


It was a response to the PP's statement about AAP teachers, also not on topic. Duh.


AAP qualifications to teach SELT is relevant to the discussion. Teachers deciding to teach general ed instead of AAP is not related to SELT. Get it?
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 10:42     Subject: Re:SELT letter
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would SELT teachers be taught AAP material? That makes no sense. This is a program for remediation.


I agree with you. It doesn't matter if kids are on target or even gifted in 1 area. It should be taught be top notch SN teachers. Some people become AAP teachers because they don't have the patience for a regular classroom or the talent and skill needed to reach the more challenging kids. There are kids with SN in AAP, but less of a range.


I know of three former AAP teachers at our center alone who chose to teach General Ed instead of AAP because the AAP classes were so frustrating. Too many kids sure they were smarter than the teacher and not afraid to act out.


What does this have to do with SELT? Nothing. Stay on topic.


It was a response to the PP's statement about AAP teachers, also not on topic. Duh.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2015 01:03     Subject: Re:SELT letter
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would SELT teachers be taught AAP material? That makes no sense. This is a program for remediation.


I agree with you. It doesn't matter if kids are on target or even gifted in 1 area. It should be taught be top notch SN teachers. Some people become AAP teachers because they don't have the patience for a regular classroom or the talent and skill needed to reach the more challenging kids. There are kids with SN in AAP, but less of a range.


I know of three former AAP teachers at our center alone who chose to teach General Ed instead of AAP because the AAP classes were so frustrating. Too many kids sure they were smarter than the teacher and not afraid to act out.


What does this have to do with SELT? Nothing. Stay on topic.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 23:39     Subject: Re:SELT letter
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would SELT teachers be taught AAP material? That makes no sense. This is a program for remediation.


I agree with you. It doesn't matter if kids are on target or even gifted in 1 area. It should be taught be top notch SN teachers. Some people become AAP teachers because they don't have the patience for a regular classroom or the talent and skill needed to reach the more challenging kids. There are kids with SN in AAP, but less of a range.


I know of three former AAP teachers at our center alone who chose to teach General Ed instead of AAP because the AAP classes were so frustrating. Too many kids sure they were smarter than the teacher and not afraid to act out.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 16:19     Subject: Re:SELT letter
SELT...at least at our school...has enabled our DC not to fall back in reading levels and math skills over the summer due to DC's learning disability. DC is working with teachers and reading specialists that were working with DC during the school year. For our child it has helped significantly the past two summers, and we already see that it will again this summer.

Our child needs to be there and our child is helped by this program!



10:52 back again...Since no one seems to be mentioning which school... I will...we are at Freedom Hill.


Did you complain? If so, what was the response?


Why would I complain? ? ? I quoted myself to say that I am HAPPY with SELT at Freedom Hill.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 15:32     Subject: Re:SELT letter
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would SELT teachers be taught AAP material? That makes no sense. This is a program for remediation.


I agree with you. It doesn't matter if kids are on target or even gifted in 1 area. It should be taught be top notch SN teachers. Some people become AAP teachers because they don't have the patience for a regular classroom or the talent and skill needed to reach the more challenging kids. There are kids with SN in AAP, but less of a range.


I was questioning more why any children in AAP would be in SELT to begin with and if for some reason there are some (although I don't know why they wouldn't just move into a level 2 situation instead), why would they need specially AAP trained teachers? A special ed teacher would be better suited to working with them.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 15:29     Subject: SELT letter
If I understand proposed budget cuts, reducing summer school would be medium impact meaning 2-5 million? If they spend this much on the program, why isn't there more oversight and at least guidelines as to how many hours have to be actual academic instruction?