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Anonymous wrote:The site dubbed the areas with the worst school systems as Nevada, Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi and, lastly, the District of Columbia.

CHEERS!

http://www.businessinsider.com/states-with-best-and-worst-school-systems-2014-8

Nevada, Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi are neither an LEA nor a "school system."

Looks like Nevada got smart and will give EVERYONE a voucher to attend a private/parochial if they choose. So if the system is bad, at least your tax dollars can be useful to find a proper alternative.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The site dubbed the areas with the worst school systems as Nevada, Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi and, lastly, the District of Columbia.

CHEERS!

http://www.businessinsider.com/states-with-best-and-worst-school-systems-2014-8

Nevada, Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi are neither an LEA nor a "school system."

Looks like Nevada got smart and will give EVERYONE a voucher to attend a private/parochial if they choose. So if the system is bad, at least your tax dollars can be useful to find a proper alternative.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The site dubbed the areas with the worst school systems as Nevada, Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi and, lastly, the District of Columbia.

CHEERS!

http://www.businessinsider.com/states-with-best-and-worst-school-systems-2014-8

Nevada, Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi are neither an LEA nor a "school system."

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Anonymous wrote:I love that the retort to this data is "BUT, we're on par with the shitty schools in other cities!!!"

Congrats!!!!

No, the argument is that there is no data about the other cities and that the data from other states is completely irrelevant.

Anonymous wrote:It really gets old to have to say the same thing over and over. When ranked with other urban school systems, DC is around the national average.

Anonymous wrote:I love that the retort to this data is "BUT, we're on par with the shitty schools in other cities!!!"

Congrats!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:that poster was concerned that the common lottery was corrupt. She was not commenting on the quality of the education in any of the schools. If you read that thread, it is pretty clear that although its OP seems excited about living in DC she does not have a lot of information about what DC is like (wants to pay $500k for a 1000+sf place close to a metro with good schools all the way through high school that does not have/need bars on the window and is in an area that never gets car breakins or has litter).

Honestly, all of her questions seem pretty reasonable for someone who may be moving here from a smaller city or a suburb. People who been here a while can sometimes forget that most of the country sees bars on windows as a bad sign. When I explained the school lottery to my parents, they thought I was making it up because it struck them as so ridiculous. I never told them how much I paid for my house. I'm still not used to the litter or crime. City folk develop a tolerance for things that the majority of people would find unacceptable.

Just like suburban and rural people develop a tolerance for things that city folk find unacceptable.

Like good customer service? Yards? Super Target? I don't get it...

Super Target, ain't that awesome! Have you seen Duggar there?

Meanwhile, we have Costco and Amazon deliver same day. No need for customer service. Do please continue to visit DC as a tourist destination every weekend and complain that you get speed and parking tickets because you can't follow the rules. Btw, I have a great yard and garden.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, but as has been said on these board many times before, it's not apples to apples. These are whole states - - so, let's run the numbers of DC v. Jersey City or Camden or Newark (all in #1 ranked NJ). . . that seems like a truer comparison to me.

DC has more people than several states. Additionally, DC spends more than any other state per student and therefore has more resources than any other state so I think the comparison is valid.

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, but as has been said on these board many times before, it's not apples to apples. These are whole states - - so, let's run the numbers of DC v. Jersey City or Camden or Newark (all in #1 ranked NJ). . . that seems like a truer comparison to me.

Anonymous wrote:It really gets old to have to say the same thing over and over. When ranked with other urban school systems, DC is around the national average. NAEP’s 2013 ranking of 4th grade reading scores for urban school systems showed that DC scored worse than NYC, Atlanta, and Boston, but better than Chicago, Houston, Los Angeles, Dallas, Milwaukee, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Fresno, Cleveland, and Detroit. The rankings also showed that DC's high SES students outscore the rest of the nation and that DC's overall concentration of high-scoring students is above the national average. 8 percent of DC students have advanced reading scores, compared to only 7 percent for NYC and 6 percent for Boston. Indeed, DC’s percentage of advanced scoring students put it in the same company with some of the highest scoring urban school systems in the country, including Hillsborough County FL (10 percent), San Diego (8 percent), Austin, Texas (11 percent), and Charlotte NC (11 percent). http://www.nationsreportcard.gov/reading_math_tuda_2013/#/tuda-performance

People really need to ignore this false advertising slogan about DC as “the worst school system in the county”. Again and again, DC gets inappropriately ranked “51st” among states – when it’s idiotic to compare one single school system to 50 averages of scores of school systems (plural) in other states. This not only matches up two entirely different data sets, but allows every other urban school system in the country the unfair advantage of hiding behind the artificially high test scores of rural and affluent suburban school systems. The closest measure of DC “as a state” would involve lumping it in with MD or VA, which would put DC somewhere between 3rd (Maryland’s ranking) and 7th (Virginia’s ranking). But how useful is that comparison, really?

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:that poster was concerned that the common lottery was corrupt. She was not commenting on the quality of the education in any of the schools. If you read that thread, it is pretty clear that although its OP seems excited about living in DC she does not have a lot of information about what DC is like (wants to pay $500k for a 1000+sf place close to a metro with good schools all the way through high school that does not have/need bars on the window and is in an area that never gets car breakins or has litter).

Honestly, all of her questions seem pretty reasonable for someone who may be moving here from a smaller city or a suburb. People who been here a while can sometimes forget that most of the country sees bars on windows as a bad sign. When I explained the school lottery to my parents, they thought I was making it up because it struck them as so ridiculous. I never told them how much I paid for my house. I'm still not used to the litter or crime. City folk develop a tolerance for things that the majority of people would find unacceptable.

Just like suburban and rural people develop a tolerance for things that city folk find unacceptable.

PP, the only thing I know that rural people and suburbanites tolerate more that city folk are guns and septic systems or leech fields.

They tolerate intolerance.

And generally: longer commutes, less public transport, longer drives to resources like groceries etc, fewer cultural resources, fewer restaurants, less walkability...to name a few

Longer drives to groceries? Hahaha, DC is just now leaving its food desert phase. And many parts of SE and NE have a bodego for 'groceries' and that's it. Suburbarn grocery shopping is way way better.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:that poster was concerned that the common lottery was corrupt. She was not commenting on the quality of the education in any of the schools. If you read that thread, it is pretty clear that although its OP seems excited about living in DC she does not have a lot of information about what DC is like (wants to pay $500k for a 1000+sf place close to a metro with good schools all the way through high school that does not have/need bars on the window and is in an area that never gets car breakins or has litter).

Honestly, all of her questions seem pretty reasonable for someone who may be moving here from a smaller city or a suburb. People who been here a while can sometimes forget that most of the country sees bars on windows as a bad sign. When I explained the school lottery to my parents, they thought I was making it up because it struck them as so ridiculous. I never told them how much I paid for my house. I'm still not used to the litter or crime. City folk develop a tolerance for things that the majority of people would find unacceptable.

Just like suburban and rural people develop a tolerance for things that city folk find unacceptable.

Like good customer service? Yards? Super Target? I don't get it...

Anonymous wrote:The site dubbed the areas with the worst school systems as Nevada, Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi and, lastly, the District of Columbia.

CHEERS!

http://www.businessinsider.com/states-with-best-and-worst-school-systems-2014-8