I just wanted to thank a PP for getting Indigo Girls stuck in my head...

Anonymous wrote:I was also class of 1982 and we had AP biology sophomore year, AP chemistry and AP US history junior year, both Calculuses (AB and BC), physics, English and probably a few more for senior year. there were also several classes we could take that gave college credit if we went in state public - like Symbolic Logic, Statistics and Cultural Anthropology. Most students took the Achievement tests. It was a public HS outside of Boston if that matters.

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Anonymous wrote:I was also class of 1982 and we had AP biology sophomore year, AP chemistry and AP US history junior year, both Calculuses (AB and BC), physics, English and probably a few more for senior year. there were also several classes we could take that gave college credit if we went in state public - like Symbolic Logic, Statistics and Cultural Anthropology. Most students took the Achievement tests. It was a public HS outside of Boston if that matters.

Hmm, late 90s, we had 20+ APs to choose from, most of the kids did 2 or 3 max between jun and sen years, our class was a test run to allow sophs to carry one, and all five of us that completed it (one dropped at sem) has 4s or 5s. I did US Hist soph year, Biology and Calc AB jun year, Euro Hist, Calc BC, English Lit and Spanish Lang sen year. That's in addition to PSAT as sph and jun, ACT and SAT as jun, retook my SAT summer between jun and sen for a 400 point increase (I was sick the day it was given during the school year, and no way was I going to stick with that score!), Subject SATs, college apps summer between jun and sen years, Fafsa each spring break (my mother didn't understand the paperwork and didn't have time, so if I wanted to go to a college prep school, it was on me; same when it came time to do the fafsa for college), etc. If a high school student is ambitious, let them set their own schedule. If they need help or you notice they aren't sleeping or eating THEN offer.

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Okay - on that we agree 100%. I want my children to go to college but am not the least bit hung up on the top colleges.

This isn't about you. Perhaps you are not "hung up" on "top colleges" but that is where your child is aiming. Don't project your wants and desires on your child. It is his/her life.

Nonsense. If you child is aiming for one of the top colleges, the best thing a parent can do is stay low-key and suggest the options. You do not need to add to a ambitions child's stress.

Not that PP, but nobody is suggesting adding to the child's stress. Affirmatively trying to dissuade your child from studying with her friends is not being low-key and suggesting options. It is attempting to interfere with what she wants. It will not reduce her stress or change her behavior, just make her think you don't support her dreams. There is no upside here. Best case is she still gets into a top college but then thinks she did it despite of mom, instead of with mom's blessing.

OP never dissuaded her kid from studying! No PP ever suggested that. I wrote that I am not the lease bit hung up on my child getting into a top college and the response was that I was imposing my will on my kid! So utterly ridiculous.

The PP who responded to me cannot possibly be that obtuse. She/he was looking for something to attack. Comments like hers/his truly make this forum tiresome.

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Okay - on that we agree 100%. I want my children to go to college but am not the least bit hung up on the top colleges.

This isn't about you. Perhaps you are not "hung up" on "top colleges" but that is where your child is aiming. Don't project your wants and desires on your child. It is his/her life.

Nonsense. If you child is aiming for one of the top colleges, the best thing a parent can do is stay low-key and suggest the options. You do not need to add to a ambitions child's stress.

Not that PP, but nobody is suggesting adding to the child's stress. Affirmatively trying to dissuade your child from studying with her friends is not being low-key and suggesting options. It is attempting to interfere with what she wants. It will not reduce her stress or change her behavior, just make her think you don't support her dreams. There is no upside here. Best case is she still gets into a top college but then thinks she did it despite of mom, instead of with mom's blessing.

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Okay - on that we agree 100%. I want my children to go to college but am not the least bit hung up on the top colleges.

This isn't about you. Perhaps you are not "hung up" on "top colleges" but that is where your child is aiming. Don't project your wants and desires on your child. It is his/her life.

Nonsense. If you child is aiming for one of the top colleges, the best thing a parent can do is stay low-key and suggest the options. You do not need to add to a ambitions child's stress.

Okay - on that we agree 100%. I want my children to go to college but am not the least bit hung up on the top colleges.

This isn't about you. Perhaps you are not "hung up" on "top colleges" but that is where your child is aiming. Don't project your wants and desires on your child. It is his/her life.

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Yes. Of course.

I went to see the doctor of philosophy
With a poster of Rasputin and a beard down to his knee
He never did marry or see a B-grade movie
He graded my performance, he said he could see through me
I spent four years prostrate to the higher mind, got my paper
And I was free.

I know how old you are! Because I'm that same age.

I was also class of 1982 and we had AP biology sophomore year, AP chemistry and AP US history junior year, both Calculuses (AB and BC), physics, English and probably a few more for senior year. there were also several classes we could take that gave college credit if we went in state public - like Symbolic Logic, Statistics and Cultural Anthropology. Most students took the Achievement tests. It was a public HS outside of Boston if that matters.

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Anonymous wrote:Are they at your house? My parents never noticed or seemed to care about my homework or what I was studying. I loved studying at my friend's house because her mom would bring us snacks, beverages, ask us what we wanted for lunch and dinner then make it and bring it to us. She asked if we needed more school supplies, etc. Ask your daughter what they want to eat and go get it for them, ask if they want you to do a Starbucks run. Please don't go in and tell them they need a break.

I am sure that trophy wives like you don't require a high school diploma

Wow that was remarkably unnecessary and mean, which is an accomplishment on this board. I mean out of nowhere!

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Anonymous wrote:Are they at your house? My parents never noticed or seemed to care about my homework or what I was studying. I loved studying at my friend's house because her mom would bring us snacks, beverages, ask us what we wanted for lunch and dinner then make it and bring it to us. She asked if we needed more school supplies, etc. Ask your daughter what they want to eat and go get it for them, ask if they want you to do a Starbucks run. Please don't go in and tell them they need a break.

I am sure that trophy wives like you don't require a high school diploma

Not the PP, but what a nasty remark.

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Anonymous wrote:They are high school juniors and this has already been an intense spring with SATs, subject SATs and AP exams. Sometimes I just think it is too much pressure on 16 year olds.

So then step in and enforce a break.

Please don't do that, OP. They are old enough to decide when to take a break without Mommy stepping in.

I agree about the ridiculously intense spring semester with all the standardized tests. I took my SATs in the spring and that was it. End of senior year were the AP exams - I don't even remember anyone talking about Subject Tests in the early 80's!

Interesting, my experience was different. The subject tests were called "Achievement tests" in the early 80's. I took my first one sophomore year in 1980. Plus, we took science APs sophomore year and others junior year too. It wasn't saved up until senior year. I was in the HS class of 1982.

NO here. I was the class of '83 and the AP's were only offered to seniors and no one took anything other than SATs.

Class of 82: the subject tests were out there, but you didn't need them -- not even to get into an ivy. I don't know anyone who actually took them. As for APs: my school offered two. To seniors. Not even calc was AP (although if you wanted to do some extra work with the teacher, he would be willing to prep you for it).

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Anonymous wrote:They are high school juniors and this has already been an intense spring with SATs, subject SATs and AP exams. Sometimes I just think it is too much pressure on 16 year olds.

So then step in and enforce a break.

Please don't do that, OP. They are old enough to decide when to take a break without Mommy stepping in.

I agree about the ridiculously intense spring semester with all the standardized tests. I took my SATs in the spring and that was it. End of senior year were the AP exams - I don't even remember anyone talking about Subject Tests in the early 80's!

Interesting, my experience was different. The subject tests were called "Achievement tests" in the early 80's. I took my first one sophomore year in 1980. Plus, we took science APs sophomore year and others junior year too. It wasn't saved up until senior year. I was in the HS class of 1982.

NO here. I was the class of '83 and the AP's were only offered to seniors and no one took anything other than SATs.

Anonymous wrote:Yes "studying" each other

+1 AP Human Sex'lity!