Anonymous
05/10/2015 07:24
Subject: Divorce over toilet sest
P.S. All three of them also thought it was stupid to put the blanket and sheet under the pillow and sham when they made the bed. They just didn't argue with you about that either.
Anonymous
05/10/2015 07:22
Subject: Divorce over toilet sest
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Everyone puts the lid down. It is the most fair, sanitary, and attractive way to deal with the up down issue.
I find it quite gross when people leave the lid up and it is right next to the counter or something. Nasty.
It is not the most fair. Under that rule, men have to lift and lower the lid and women don't have to do anything. The fairest system is for people to put the lid where they personally prefer it and to leave it there when they leave.
No, under this rule, everyone needs to lift something, every single time, and then lower when done, every time. Hence fairness. Also more sanitary.
80% of women I know who think their husbands should put the seat down do not regularly put the lid down. Insisting that everyone put the lid down is the only vaguely logical defense of making men put the seat down. But it's also a pretty silly way to ensure fairness (it is fair because we have created an extra chore so that everyone can do something).
pp here. LOL! You are serious!? I was wondering if anyone would be stupid enough to object to this approach based on the extra work it creates of putting the seat AND lid down vs just the seat. Nah, I thought, that's stupid even for DCUM.
I have cohabitated with 3 men in my life. We've had this discussion within hours of moving in each time. They agree and it never comes up again, because they were all sensible people who could see reason.
I haven't done the statistics on my friends bathroom habits that you have, but I never, ever hear anyone complain about this in my real life, just on the internet, in a way that seems very driven by pop culture gender stereotypes.
I put the seat down too, but it is because arguing with my wife is less pleasant than putting the lid down is unpleasant. The three men you cohabit aged with didn't agree with you, they just didn't think it was in their best interest to argue with you. Imagine if you had turned out to be OP, who is Treating something that could not be more trivial as grounds for divorce!
Anonymous
05/10/2015 04:00
Subject: Divorce over toilet sest
I agree...How absolutely gross to leave the seat up in a bathroom so close to the kitchen. There would go my appetite right then and there.
At least he could shut the door.
I find it disgusting when men leave the toilet seat up, but wouldn't divorce someone over it.
I am a Female, but I think for most men putting the seat down is asking for too much. They are just wired differently in their brains. In their minds, it just makes their next pee more easier.
At least he could shut the door.
I find it disgusting when men leave the toilet seat up, but wouldn't divorce someone over it.
I am a Female, but I think for most men putting the seat down is asking for too much. They are just wired differently in their brains. In their minds, it just makes their next pee more easier.
Anonymous
05/09/2015 17:23
Subject: Divorce over toilet sest
That made me wince.Anonymous wrote:I wish my DH would lift the seat up. I'd be delighted to see the seat left up since then I'd know there won't be remnants on the seat!
Anonymous
05/09/2015 17:21
Subject: Divorce over toilet sest
The proper position is for the lid to be ALL THE WAY down. You should close it before you flush too, so all those particles don't fly up and settle everywhere else. It's common etiquette to leave the lid all the way down.
Anonymous
05/09/2015 16:56
Subject: Divorce over toilet sest
My DD has a seat that closes on it's own. Just buy one. Problem solved.
Anonymous
05/09/2015 16:48
Subject: Divorce over toilet sest
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: Why does the world has to revolve around your vagina? When you find the seat up, put it down, when he finds the seat down he'll put it up.
Why does it have to be your way all the time? Tonight I'll weep for your children.
Because there is nothing grosser than not noticing the seat upright and planting your buttocks on top of someone else's cold pee droplets. Women expect seat down. You get to pee standing up and outside. Not fair. Love your DW and put the seat down.
Lots of life isn't fair. For example, a woman's barest expectations on a date exceed a man's wildest dreams. Someone asking me out, paying for everything, and getting me drunk so she can have sex with me? *swoon* I'd fiddle with the toilet seat in exchange for that.
Anonymous
05/09/2015 16:24
Subject: Re:Divorce over toilet sest
Anonymous wrote: And the really gross thing is selecting a house with a toilet that is visible from the kitchen. I'd would not remotely consider buying such a house because it is a situation that cannot be rectified - even if the seat were left down, there is always the likelihood of smell emanating from there.
LOL, there you go - what a DCUM response. "My husband won't put the seat down." "YOU NEED TO MOVE YOU ARE GROSS FOR PICKING THAT HOUSE."
Anonymous
05/09/2015 16:20
Subject: Re:Divorce over toilet sest
I prefer the seat up all the time when it is not in use. Teenage boys will sometimes pee without raising the seat and then you have pee on the toilet seat even if has dried up.
If the seat is up as a default position, then they are not likely to get pee on the seat. Takes very little effort to lower the seat before sitting on it unless one is disabled. And the really gross thing is selecting a house with a toilet that is visible from the kitchen. I'd would not remotely consider buying such a house because it is a situation that cannot be rectified - even if the seat were left down, there is always the likelihood of smell emanating from there.
If the seat is up as a default position, then they are not likely to get pee on the seat. Takes very little effort to lower the seat before sitting on it unless one is disabled. And the really gross thing is selecting a house with a toilet that is visible from the kitchen. I'd would not remotely consider buying such a house because it is a situation that cannot be rectified - even if the seat were left down, there is always the likelihood of smell emanating from there.
Anonymous
05/09/2015 16:03
Subject: Divorce over toilet sest
Anonymous wrote: Why does the world has to revolve around your vagina? When you find the seat up, put it down, when he finds the seat down he'll put it up.
Why does it have to be your way all the time? Tonight I'll weep for your children.
Because there is nothing grosser than not noticing the seat upright and planting your buttocks on top of someone else's cold pee droplets. Women expect seat down. You get to pee standing up and outside. Not fair. Love your DW and put the seat down.
Anonymous
05/09/2015 15:06
Subject: Divorce over toilet sest
I live with DH, my dad, and my three teenage boys. I'm happy when they don't pee on the floor. I would recommend however keeping the door to your half bath shut.
Anonymous
05/09/2015 14:55
Subject: Divorce over toilet sest
Do you complain to management when the office or restaurant has a seat up
Anonymous
05/09/2015 14:48
Subject: Divorce over toilet sest
Anonymous wrote: Why does the world has to revolve around your vagina? When you find the seat up, put it down, when he finds the seat down he'll put it up.
Why does it have to be your way all the time? Tonight I'll weep for your children.
OP here - as noted by PPs, the issue is sanitation and aesthetics (not wanting to look at toilet from kitchen or when entering the bathroom), not convenience/inconvenience. Because when I go - #1 or #2 - I still need to lift the lid up if both the lid and seat are down. Likewise - so would he (either lid & seat for #1, or just lid for #2).
Anonymous
05/09/2015 11:22
Subject: Divorce over toilet sest
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Everyone puts the lid down. It is the most fair, sanitary, and attractive way to deal with the up down issue.
I find it quite gross when people leave the lid up and it is right next to the counter or something. Nasty.
It is not the most fair. Under that rule, men have to lift and lower the lid and women don't have to do anything. The fairest system is for people to put the lid where they personally prefer it and to leave it there when they leave.
No, under this rule, everyone needs to lift something, every single time, and then lower when done, every time. Hence fairness. Also more sanitary.
80% of women I know who think their husbands should put the seat down do not regularly put the lid down. Insisting that everyone put the lid down is the only vaguely logical defense of making men put the seat down. But it's also a pretty silly way to ensure fairness (it is fair because we have created an extra chore so that everyone can do something).
pp here. LOL! You are serious!? I was wondering if anyone would be stupid enough to object to this approach based on the extra work it creates of putting the seat AND lid down vs just the seat. Nah, I thought, that's stupid even for DCUM.
I have cohabitated with 3 men in my life. We've had this discussion within hours of moving in each time. They agree and it never comes up again, because they were all sensible people who could see reason.
I haven't done the statistics on my friends bathroom habits that you have, but I never, ever hear anyone complain about this in my real life, just on the internet, in a way that seems very driven by pop culture gender stereotypes.
Anonymous
05/09/2015 11:05
Subject: Divorce over toilet sest
Why does the world has to revolve around your vagina? When you find the seat up, put it down, when he finds the seat down he'll put it up.
Why does it have to be your way all the time? Tonight I'll weep for your children.
Why does it have to be your way all the time? Tonight I'll weep for your children.