Some of you here are so 1% suburban white that you squeak. This was the mother of a black teen in an urban riot. She sees her son with a black hood covering his face and about to throw a rock at police officers in riot gear and armed. She tells him to stop and gets between him and the police and he tries to go around her and raises the rock. After Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown.and Freddie Gray all she can see is if that rock leaves his hand the next time she sees him will be in the morgue . Yes she snaps and. She uses any means at her disposal to stop that rock from leaving his hand. Including slapping some sense into him. I'm sorry if Ms white Bethesda thinks that the voice of doom is sufficient but you have never beenin a situation where your child's next action could cause her to be killed by a frightened.police officer in a racially charged situation and your suggestion is ludicrous.

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Anonymous wrote:For all of you questioning what she did let's put one of your children in a situation where they are not only doing something they shouldn't, but they are in harms way. Let's get your adrenaline up and see how in control you are.

As best I recall she was hitting him with an open hand. A slap hurts but I doubt any of those blows would do significant harm. And no, not mentally either.

I so would not have had to hit my kid to make her leave. I learned long ago how to use the "voice of doom" to scare the piss out of her in those few instances where it was necessary.

That's what we'd all like to think, just like we'd all like to think our kids wouldn't fall victim to the mob mentality and always do the right thing.

No, she doesn't always do the right thing. That's why I use the voice of doom when needed. And based on my long experience with her, I think it's highly unlikely I would need to hit her. I mean, the point raised was how I would stay in control with my kid in harm's way and my adrenaline up and I think it's entirely possible that I would act like an asshole but still not likely I would hit her.

#yourkidsarenotteensyet

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Anonymous wrote:Really? You approve of a mother beating her son? I understand why she did, given the context, but I abhor it. The son is engaging in violence so she...treats him with violence. And the cycle goes on. If this child had been a white boy from Bethesda and his mom was caught on tape beating him on the street she would be charged with abuse. But a black boy in the middle of a protest and everyone claps. Its bizarre. You can find hundreds of pages of threads on DCUM arguing about whether spanking is right, but all seem to agree that it should stop, if it is ever right at all, once the child can be reasoned with. I think the subtext to the approval of the beating of this boy is that because he is a poor black boy in West Baltimore he can't be reasoned with, can't be treated like other teens.

BINGO!
Plus, everyone now knows her name, but I bet we don't all know the names of the 6 officers suspected of killing Freddie Gray, whose name we all know.

Here you go...google is your friend. The names were released over a week ago.

https://www.baltimorebrew.com/2015/04/21/names-of-officers-suspended-as-part-of-freddie-gray-case/

Are they all Caucasian, in spite of the fact that 50% of the Baltimore police are not?

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Anonymous wrote:For all of you questioning what she did let's put one of your children in a situation where they are not only doing something they shouldn't, but they are in harms way. Let's get your adrenaline up and see how in control you are.

As best I recall she was hitting him with an open hand. A slap hurts but I doubt any of those blows would do significant harm. And no, not mentally either.

I so would not have had to hit my kid to make her leave. I learned long ago how to use the "voice of doom" to scare the piss out of her in those few instances where it was necessary.

PP here.

I was abused as a child...mostly beaten with belts drawing welts, sometimes with closed fists and many time enough to draw blood. Because of that I am sensitive to this issue and I vowed I would never do that to my children and that was well before hearing about ''breaking the chain''. Did I spank my children when they were small...yes but rare, measured and not hard.

Now that I got that disclaimer out...lol...I can relate to what you said. Could a look and my version of the voice of doom have a result for my children...sure. Just seeing me would almost be enough because we were consistent in our discipline and had a great relationship with them. And I would hope I would use that but I don't know since I have never been in that lady's shoes.

Anonymous wrote:This didn't take long. I fully support this mother and how she handled her son. I'd hardly say she beat him or that this was abuse.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/04/29/why-is-america-celebrating-the-beating-of-a-black-child/

That article is a bunch of overheated emotional hyperbole. I'm sorry, but in the middle of a melee, you're not going to say "hey sweetheart, I really think it's best that you not do this." This white mother would beat the hell out of her kid too if I caught him doing that crap. And I NEVER hit my child, and under normal circumstances never would. But that was not a normal circumstance she found herself in.

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Anonymous wrote:For all of you questioning what she did let's put one of your children in a situation where they are not only doing something they shouldn't, but they are in harms way. Let's get your adrenaline up and see how in control you are.

As best I recall she was hitting him with an open hand. A slap hurts but I doubt any of those blows would do significant harm. And no, not mentally either.

I so would not have had to hit my kid to make her leave. I learned long ago how to use the "voice of doom" to scare the piss out of her in those few instances where it was necessary.

Let me know how that voice of doom works with a 16Yo boy at a riot.

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Anonymous wrote:So, if you abhor what the mom did, I'm curious how would you react in that situation? Just leave him and let him suffer the "natural consequences"? You could try to just talk to him, but what if he didn't listen and come home?

Sure, we can all hope that as parents we've done our jobs to instill morals in our kids, that they won't have the mob mentality, but I'm sure some of those same parents have kids that have done something violent.

It's not clear that she had to hit him to make him leave.

It was to me. I mean, he sure wasn't just following her when she shouted at him.

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Anonymous wrote:Really? You approve of a mother beating her son? I understand why she did, given the context, but I abhor it. The son is engaging in violence so she...treats him with violence. And the cycle goes on. If this child had been a white boy from Bethesda and his mom was caught on tape beating him on the street she would be charged with abuse. But a black boy in the middle of a protest and everyone claps. Its bizarre. You can find hundreds of pages of threads on DCUM arguing about whether spanking is right, but all seem to agree that it should stop, if it is ever right at all, once the child can be reasoned with. I think the subtext to the approval of the beating of this boy is that because he is a poor black boy in West Baltimore he can't be reasoned with, can't be treated like other teens.

Did you watch the video? I wouldn't call that a beating. I'm white, middle class and was spanked as a child. Not often, but there were a few times and I'm sure it was warranted. Guess what? I'm a normal and productive member of society.

Fwiw....I'd feel exactly the same if this happened to a "white boy from Bethesda".

Same here. I'm white and I don't view that as a beating so much as her forcefully pulling him away from there. If my kid were in front of an oncoming train and the only way to get him away was to pull and slap him to get him to quit resisting, I'd totally do it. I think she viewed this as an imminent danger situation.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not going to judge this mom because I don't know her, or her son, and I don't know what they have been through. She probably did what needed to be done.

That said, the reaction to it is truly bizarre. Whether she was right or wrong is beside the point. Whether or not it was actually a beating is beside the point. If this was a white boy in Bethesda, I guarantee there would be a lot more people accusing her of abuse. There would also be people calling her a hero, but not as many as we are seeing here. We would also be hearing excuses for the boy's behavior - rough childhood, mental problems, school system, school lunches, common core, Obama, Benghazi.

But with the black boy in Baltimore, we all just assume that this is the only way to deal with him, and that every other mom should have been out there beating their sons as well.

I don't think there would be the differentiation you're predicting. Any loving parent who comes across his/her child in a dangerous situation would react in extreme ways to get the child out of harm's way. That's the bottom line. Reasonable people would see the parents' actions for what they are - necessary and appropriate, given the unusual and extreme circumstances.

I don't assume this Baltimore mother's actions mean hitting her child was the "only way to deal with him." It's clear to me that she panicked at the visual her son presented, and was terrified for her son's safety because she understood how quickly he could end up dead under the circumstances. She reacted from a place of anxiety and concern for her son. End of story.

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In that moment, if I had seen my son in a riot filled with mob mentality fury, I would certainly not hesitate smacking my boy right there in front of everyone to divert him away from the situation.

I don't know this woman or her son, but I know that if that was what I had to do to because I was afraid for the life of my son I would do it. You could all call me child abuser or whatever, but if it saves his life I don't care. I doubt saying "hey Larlo, let's go talk about this over some ice cream" would have got him out of there in the middle of a riot.

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Anonymous wrote:For all of you questioning what she did let's put one of your children in a situation where they are not only doing something they shouldn't, but they are in harms way. Let's get your adrenaline up and see how in control you are.

As best I recall she was hitting him with an open hand. A slap hurts but I doubt any of those blows would do significant harm. And no, not mentally either.

I so would not have had to hit my kid to make her leave. I learned long ago how to use the "voice of doom" to scare the piss out of her in those few instances where it was necessary.

That's what we'd all like to think, just like we'd all like to think our kids wouldn't fall victim to the mob mentality and always do the right thing.

No, she doesn't always do the right thing. That's why I use the voice of doom when needed. And based on my long experience with her, I think it's highly unlikely I would need to hit her. I mean, the point raised was how I would stay in control with my kid in harm's way and my adrenaline up and I think it's entirely possible that I would act like an asshole but still not likely I would hit her.

I think it's easier with girls as they generally are less likely to engage in life threatening illegal activities. As I said, I think we'd all like to think we'd do the right thing as parents, but I'm not naive enough to think that I wouldn't act like that mom. You have no idea what you are capable of in extreme situations.

You know what would be awesome? If all of us, especially the white community, stopped trying to spin this story to fit with our narrative and our agenda, and instead listened to what she has said about that moment.

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Anonymous wrote:Really? You approve of a mother beating her son? I understand why she did, given the context, but I abhor it. The son is engaging in violence so she...treats him with violence. And the cycle goes on. If this child had been a white boy from Bethesda and his mom was caught on tape beating him on the street she would be charged with abuse. But a black boy in the middle of a protest and everyone claps. Its bizarre. You can find hundreds of pages of threads on DCUM arguing about whether spanking is right, but all seem to agree that it should stop, if it is ever right at all, once the child can be reasoned with. I think the subtext to the approval of the beating of this boy is that because he is a poor black boy in West Baltimore he can't be reasoned with, can't be treated like other teens.

BINGO!
Plus, everyone now knows her name, but I bet we don't all know the names of the 6 officers suspected of killing Freddie Gray, whose name we all know.

Here you go...google is your friend. The names were released over a week ago.

https://www.baltimorebrew.com/2015/04/21/names-of-officers-suspended-as-part-of-freddie-gray-case/

I never said that the names were not released. I said people know the other names, but I bet they don't know the names of the cops.
Highly unlikely they would have to google freddie's name or the name of the mom, but don't know the names of the cops off the tops of their heads.
Do you not understand the difference??????????????????????????????????

Anonymous wrote:I am not going to judge this mom because I don't know her, or her son, and I don't know what they have been through. She probably did what needed to be done.

That said, the reaction to it is truly bizarre. Whether she was right or wrong is beside the point. Whether or not it was actually a beating is beside the point. If this was a white boy in Bethesda, I guarantee there would be a lot more people accusing her of abuse. There would also be people calling her a hero, but not as many as we are seeing here. We would also be hearing excuses for the boy's behavior - rough childhood, mental problems, school system, school lunches, common core, Obama, Benghazi.

But with the black boy in Baltimore, we all just assume that this is the only way to deal with him, and that every other mom should have been out there beating their sons as well.

I don't think there would be the differentiation you're predicting. Any loving parent who comes across his/her child in a dangerous situation would react in extreme ways to get the child out of harm's way. That's the bottom line. Reasonable people would see the parents' actions for what they are - necessary and appropriate, given the unusual and extreme circumstances.

I don't assume this Baltimore mother's actions mean hitting her child was the "only way to deal with him." It's clear to me that she panicked at the visual her son presented, and was terrified for her son's safety because she understood how quickly he could end up dead under the circumstances. She reacted from a place of anxiety and concern for her son. End of story.

No every kid is scared of the voice of doom. I'd say in critical circumstances a few slaps can be forgiven, and those of you who engage in sanctimonious preaching are just assholes who somehow think your rants validate your perfect parenting. STFU.

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Anonymous wrote:For all of you questioning what she did let's put one of your children in a situation where they are not only doing something they shouldn't, but they are in harms way. Let's get your adrenaline up and see how in control you are.

As best I recall she was hitting him with an open hand. A slap hurts but I doubt any of those blows would do significant harm. And no, not mentally either.

I so would not have had to hit my kid to make her leave. I learned long ago how to use the "voice of doom" to scare the piss out of her in those few instances where it was necessary.

That's what we'd all like to think, just like we'd all like to think our kids wouldn't fall victim to the mob mentality and always do the right thing.

No, she doesn't always do the right thing. That's why I use the voice of doom when needed. And based on my long experience with her, I think it's highly unlikely I would need to hit her. I mean, the point raised was how I would stay in control with my kid in harm's way and my adrenaline up and I think it's entirely possible that I would act like an asshole but still not likely I would hit her.