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Anonymous wrote:I'm in a multicultural marriage but spouse is not AA. She's from Europe.

The only oblivious thing I can think of has to do with language. We are of course raising the kids to be bilingual - but she spoke German to the kids while we were in a bagel shop obviously run by orthodox folks.

They were clearly uncomfortable and I felt really awkward. She was just oblivious. There's a time and place for teaching the kids German, but this clearly wasn't it.

Oh please. So i asume you'd never speak English to your own kids if you were in front of a Native American, or Vietnamese, person?

This is very triggering to some survivors.

To some survivors of police violence, seeing a police uniform can very triggering.

To some survivors of rape by an AA male, seeing an AA male can be very triggering.

To some gay couples, seeing a Catholic priest can be very triggering.

I am an American Born Asian and despite my accent (I have a standard mid-Atlantic accent, so around here, it doesn't sound like one), I still get some people who act differently once they hear my name or see my face. I can talk to someone over the phone and they'll act normal, but as soon as they hear my name, they will start speaking slower and talking slightly louder. I get comments about "your people" or "where are you REALLY from?". People drag out any completely unrelated trivia facts about various Asian foods, the few Asians they've met, the one time they went into a Korean grocery store, and the Japanese electronics they've bought.

My white wife (on one side, her family traces its roots back to the Mayflower), was liberal enough to understand that there were still inequalities in hiring, raises, promotions, etc, but she really didn't believe that there was overt racism/stereotyping of Asians especially not in urban areas like ours. She thought my stories of such events only occurred when I was a kid or long before I met her (and we've been together for 16 years). Then a couple of years ago, we were in Cincinnati in a northern Kentucky suburb and stuck in a waiting room. This older Kentucky couple looked at me and tried so hard to be friendly. They asked where I was from and when I said Pittsburgh, they asked where I was really from. They were careful to slow down when talking to me and speak louder (compared to when they spoke to each other or the white receptionist or even my wife sitting next to me). They told me stories of their son who actually tried to take them to a Chinese buffet and what odd foods they had there (I mean, they actually had raw fish! And he expected me to eat it. Not on your life!). They talked about the nice Asian guy who ran the dry cleaning business near them and they actually wondered if I had a Japanese TV. They were very sweet and very sincerely trying to be nice and neighborly so rather than some of my sometimes sarcastic responses, I was very polite and engaged them in conversation. My wife was trying so hard to stifle her laughter and finally had to excuse herself to go to the rest room. Later we talked about it and she still believed it was an isolated event, but I assured her that while it only happened occasionally, I usually got something akin to this a few times a year, say every few months. She was flabbergasted. She's seen or heard another one or two much shorter, less extreme cases now and no longer doubts that it happens.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in a multicultural marriage but spouse is not AA. She's from Europe.

The only oblivious thing I can think of has to do with language. We are of course raising the kids to be bilingual - but she spoke German to the kids while we were in a bagel shop obviously run by orthodox folks.

They were clearly uncomfortable and I felt really awkward. She was just oblivious. There's a time and place for teaching the kids German, but this clearly wasn't it.

Oh please. So i asume you'd never speak English to your own kids if you were in front of a Native American, or Vietnamese, person?

This is very triggering to some survivors.

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Yes! I had to look up 'hooptie'. What a great word!

A perfect example of cultural appropriation. LOL

Hooptie is not a new word among a lot of us. It is just new to you.

If you say it in certain circles, people will think that you are an old person trying to be hip or a White person trying to relate to AA's or Latinos. LOL

I've heard older people of all races use that word. Never anyone under 40.

I've heard it, but recently. But we used to use jalopy, junker, or clunker much more often to mean the same type of vehicle (none so specific as the above-mentioned definition).

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Anonymous wrote:can we all just stop and acknolwedge that this thread's degeneration has brought us the marvelous word "hoopti"?

Lmao. I love that word. People need to stop feeding the troll now. He just wants to bash blacks. There is always a frustrated racist in every thread remotely connected to race.

Yes! I had to look up 'hooptie'. What a great word!

From the Urban Dictionary http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hooptie

Hooptie ?

Any car that meets the following: a) driver must enter car through passenger side b) three different brand and size tires - 3 of them missing hubcap c) exhaust is held up by half a clothes hanger - other half replaces the antenna d) backfires every three blocks - loudest backfire being when car is turned off e) must open door at drive-threws as windows don't roll down f) you only get one AM station and the tape deck eats all tapes inserted g) can't open the glove box as the whole thing will fall out h) if you let go of steering wheel while driving you'll make a u-turn i) must manually move blinker lever up and down as it no longer blinks on it's own j) must keep one foot on brake and one on accelerator when at a complete stop k) has had the same temporary registration sticker in the window for the last 18 months l) has all the above issues but still has a $200 professional tint job

A perfect example of cultural appropriation. LOL

Hooptie is not a new word among a lot of us. It is just new to you.

If you say it in certain circles, people will think that you are an old person trying to be hip or a White person trying to relate to AA's or Latinos. LOL

I've heard older people of all races use that word. Never anyone under 40.

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Anonymous wrote:can we all just stop and acknolwedge that this thread's degeneration has brought us the marvelous word "hoopti"?

Lmao. I love that word. People need to stop feeding the troll now. He just wants to bash blacks. There is always a frustrated racist in every thread remotely connected to race.

Yes! I had to look up 'hooptie'. What a great word!

From the Urban Dictionary http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hooptie

Hooptie ?

Any car that meets the following: a) driver must enter car through passenger side b) three different brand and size tires - 3 of them missing hubcap c) exhaust is held up by half a clothes hanger - other half replaces the antenna d) backfires every three blocks - loudest backfire being when car is turned off e) must open door at drive-threws as windows don't roll down f) you only get one AM station and the tape deck eats all tapes inserted g) can't open the glove box as the whole thing will fall out h) if you let go of steering wheel while driving you'll make a u-turn i) must manually move blinker lever up and down as it no longer blinks on it's own j) must keep one foot on brake and one on accelerator when at a complete stop k) has had the same temporary registration sticker in the window for the last 18 months l) has all the above issues but still has a $200 professional tint job

A perfect example of cultural appropriation. LOL

Hooptie is not a new word among a lot of us. It is just new to you.

If you say it in certain circles, people will think that you are an old person trying to be hip or a White person trying to relate to AA's or Latinos. LOL

As a Latino, I've never heard or used that word ...

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Anonymous wrote:can we all just stop and acknolwedge that this thread's degeneration has brought us the marvelous word "hoopti"?

Lmao. I love that word. People need to stop feeding the troll now. He just wants to bash blacks. There is always a frustrated racist in every thread remotely connected to race.

Yes! I had to look up 'hooptie'. What a great word!

From the Urban Dictionary http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hooptie

Hooptie ?

Any car that meets the following: a) driver must enter car through passenger side b) three different brand and size tires - 3 of them missing hubcap c) exhaust is held up by half a clothes hanger - other half replaces the antenna d) backfires every three blocks - loudest backfire being when car is turned off e) must open door at drive-threws as windows don't roll down f) you only get one AM station and the tape deck eats all tapes inserted g) can't open the glove box as the whole thing will fall out h) if you let go of steering wheel while driving you'll make a u-turn i) must manually move blinker lever up and down as it no longer blinks on it's own j) must keep one foot on brake and one on accelerator when at a complete stop k) has had the same temporary registration sticker in the window for the last 18 months l) has all the above issues but still has a $200 professional tint job

A perfect example of cultural appropriation. LOL

Hooptie is not a new word among a lot of us. It is just new to you.

If you say it in certain circles, people will think that you are an old person trying to be hip or a White person trying to relate to AA's or Latinos. LOL

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Anonymous wrote:can we all just stop and acknolwedge that this thread's degeneration has brought us the marvelous word "hoopti"?

Lmao. I love that word. People need to stop feeding the troll now. He just wants to bash blacks. There is always a frustrated racist in every thread remotely connected to race.

Yes! I had to look up 'hooptie'. What a great word!

From the Urban Dictionary http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hooptie

Hooptie ?

Any car that meets the following: a) driver must enter car through passenger side b) three different brand and size tires - 3 of them missing hubcap c) exhaust is held up by half a clothes hanger - other half replaces the antenna d) backfires every three blocks - loudest backfire being when car is turned off e) must open door at drive-threws as windows don't roll down f) you only get one AM station and the tape deck eats all tapes inserted g) can't open the glove box as the whole thing will fall out h) if you let go of steering wheel while driving you'll make a u-turn i) must manually move blinker lever up and down as it no longer blinks on it's own j) must keep one foot on brake and one on accelerator when at a complete stop k) has had the same temporary registration sticker in the window for the last 18 months l) has all the above issues but still has a $200 professional tint job

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Anonymous wrote:can we all just stop and acknolwedge that this thread's degeneration has brought us the marvelous word "hoopti"?

Lmao. I love that word. People need to stop feeding the troll now. He just wants to bash blacks. There is always a frustrated racist in every thread remotely connected to race.

Yes! I had to look up 'hooptie'. What a great word!

From the Urban Dictionary http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hooptie

Hooptie ?

Any car that meets the following: a) driver must enter car through passenger side b) three different brand and size tires - 3 of them missing hubcap c) exhaust is held up by half a clothes hanger - other half replaces the antenna d) backfires every three blocks - loudest backfire being when car is turned off e) must open door at drive-threws as windows don't roll down f) you only get one AM station and the tape deck eats all tapes inserted g) can't open the glove box as the whole thing will fall out h) if you let go of steering wheel while driving you'll make a u-turn i) must manually move blinker lever up and down as it no longer blinks on it's own j) must keep one foot on brake and one on accelerator when at a complete stop k) has had the same temporary registration sticker in the window for the last 18 months l) has all the above issues but still has a $200 professional tint job

My DH and I are both white, but it does drive me crazy that he doesn't or won't acknowledge systematic sexism and misogyny. He loves to play the devil's advocate on something like the lack of interesting roles for women in film, for example. It gets old. I think it stems from feeling defensive about being a privileged straight white guy in general. I'm not one of those guys so this doesn't really happen. It's annoying and diminishes my opinion of him, honestly.

Anonymous wrote:Met my DH in Atlanta. He's white, and grew up thinking there was no such thing as racism. Then, in 2012, there were places that outright wouldn't serve us, and we were often sat in the back of restaurants for some reason. That's when he started noticing it's not all peaches and roses! I'm AA. He's much more aware. Just yesterday, he said sometimes with men acting crazy, he doesn't know if it's because I'm black or a female- or both! Our leasing agent is Russian and will have nothing to do with me. I'm nice, courteous, yet he literally blows me off. Whenever my husband contacts him, he bends over backwards for him! Crazy!

Stupid autocorrect! Sorry for previous typos.

Met my DH in Atlanta. He's white, and grew up thinking there was no such thing as racism. Then, in 2012, there were places that outright wouldn't serve us, and we were often say in the back of restauranta for some reason. That's when he started noticing it's it all peaches and roses! I'm AA. He's much more aware. Just yesterday, he said sometimes with men acting crazy, he doesn't know if it's because I'm black or a female- or both! Our leasing agent is Russian and will have nothing to do with me. I'm nice, courteous, yet he literally blows me off. Whenever my husband contacts him, he bends over backwards for him! Crazy!

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Anonymous wrote:Black man here. There's a balance. He might be oblivious and you might be overly sensitive. That's a bad mix.

This.

Indeed

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Anonymous wrote:My white kid has been pulled over in my neighborhood 7 times because he drives a hoopty and the neighborhood is affluent. He's asked where he's coming from and what is he doing in this area.

Police don't care about color. They care about REVENUE. Like the fat bastard cop sitting at the stop sign on the corner every morning. He's given tickets to almost everyone that doesn't make a complete stop. He's black.

+100

Both of you should be lobotomized, since your brains aren't being used anyway. Unless you have been living under a rock, there is no way that you have not heard by now that, even adjusting for household income and education, black people are more likely to be pulled over, issued tickets, arrested, held without bail, overcharged, and subjected to other infringements on their liberty by the police. Yet you say it is not racial?

I am not sure if you are lobotomized or just plain slow. Now adjust all those metrics based on what actually counts --the actual commission of crimes--, see what you find and come back to report the big news.

Thanks for confirming your already-apparent stupidity. The great sin of statisticians is putting statistics at the disposal of fools like you without first undertaking a mass campaign to educate the public in the use of statistics. There is something called sampling bias, whereby you find what you are seeking. So, when racists -- like you -- who control the criminal justice system start out with the assumption that black people are more likely to be criminal and, thus, arrest more black people, guess what the results end up showing? But all that means is that when you start out with a skewed sample -- as in disproportionately more black people being targeted and arrested, while whites are actually under policed and under arrested -- then you are going to get skewed results -- disproportionately more black people being deemed "criminals". Hence why the phenomenon is known as sampling bias and is something that intelligent people know renders a study and statistics gleaned from that study useless, unless corrected for.

Lady, you have serious mental troubles. Nothing to do with your race, consider it your personal accomplishment.

True, there is something called sampling bias. There is also something called murder, which is about the most fact-based crime you can think of. Someone is dead right there. And it happens to be one of the crimes that atracts most resources and scrutiny for obvious reasons.

Now explain to me, please, how sampling error may account for this fact: over 50% of the murders con the US are committed by blacks, who, as a group, represent less than 15% of the population.

The post clearly explained how the stats you are quoting are flawed because of sampling bias.

This is not that confusing.

Stop being stupid and go about your racist, mentally ill way.

It is clear you are just looking for an opportunity to throw out the "African Americans are criminals" canard.

I'm sorry if you have a crazy twin who likes to insult people instead of using her God-endowed brain, but the challenge remains open -- Explain to me, please, how sampling error may account for this fact: over 50% of murders in the US are committed by blacks, who, as a group, represent less than 15% of the population.

^^Please, no one respond to this nutter. Stop feeding the troll.

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Anonymous wrote:My white kid has been pulled over in my neighborhood 7 times because he drives a hoopty and the neighborhood is affluent. He's asked where he's coming from and what is he doing in this area.

Police don't care about color. They care about REVENUE. Like the fat bastard cop sitting at the stop sign on the corner every morning. He's given tickets to almost everyone that doesn't make a complete stop. He's black.

+100

Both of you should be lobotomized, since your brains aren't being used anyway. Unless you have been living under a rock, there is no way that you have not heard by now that, even adjusting for household income and education, black people are more likely to be pulled over, issued tickets, arrested, held without bail, overcharged, and subjected to other infringements on their liberty by the police. Yet you say it is not racial?

I am not sure if you are lobotomized or just plain slow. Now adjust all those metrics based on what actually counts --the actual commission of crimes--, see what you find and come back to report the big news.

Thanks for confirming your already-apparent stupidity. The great sin of statisticians is putting statistics at the disposal of fools like you without first undertaking a mass campaign to educate the public in the use of statistics. There is something called sampling bias, whereby you find what you are seeking. So, when racists -- like you -- who control the criminal justice system start out with the assumption that black people are more likely to be criminal and, thus, arrest more black people, guess what the results end up showing? But all that means is that when you start out with a skewed sample -- as in disproportionately more black people being targeted and arrested, while whites are actually under policed and under arrested -- then you are going to get skewed results -- disproportionately more black people being deemed "criminals". Hence why the phenomenon is known as sampling bias and is something that intelligent people know renders a study and statistics gleaned from that study useless, unless corrected for.

Lady, you have serious mental troubles. Nothing to do with your race, consider it your personal accomplishment.

True, there is something called sampling bias. There is also something called murder, which is about the most fact-based crime you can think of. Someone is dead right there. And it happens to be one of the crimes that atracts most resources and scrutiny for obvious reasons.

Now explain to me, please, how sampling error may account for this fact: over 50% of the murders con the US are committed by blacks, who, as a group, represent less than 15% of the population.

The post clearly explained how the stats you are quoting are flawed because of sampling bias.

This is not that confusing.

Stop being stupid and go about your racist, mentally ill way.

It is clear you are just looking for an opportunity to throw out the "African Americans are criminals" canard.

I'm sorry if you have a crazy twin who likes to insult people instead of using her God-endowed brain, but the challenge remains open -- Explain to me, please, how sampling error may account for this fact: over 50% of murders in the US are committed by blacks, who, as a group, represent less than 15% of the population.