Anonymous
Post 05/13/2021 14:47     Subject: 5th-6th grade math / Map-M
Anonymous wrote:what does MAP-M measure exactly? more math knowledge or just deeper thinking.


math knowledge, no deeper thinking involved.

2/3 of my kid's ES are in compact math.

249 is a very good score for 5th.
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2021 13:40     Subject: 5th-6th grade math / Map-M
Anonymous wrote:Looking at this old thread and wondering if my soon-to-be rising 6th grader should consider Algebra next year?

Their last MAP-M was around 280. They didn't get picked for the magnet lottery and were mostly bored to tears by Compacted 5/6.

They're supposed to take AIM next year which may be kind of basic for them. The only reason this might be good is they might be more challenged and engaged.

Any advice?

The math curriculum has changed a bunch in the last 6 six years. I do not think it is relevant to 2021.
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2021 11:44     Subject: 5th-6th grade math / Map-M
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looking at this old thread and wondering if my soon-to-be rising 6th grader should consider Algebra next year?

Their last MAP-M was around 280. They didn't get picked for the magnet lottery and were mostly bored to tears by Compacted 5/6.

They're supposed to take AIM next year which may be kind of basic for them. The only reason this might be good is they might be more challenged and engaged.

Any advice?


DCUM can't answer this for you. You need to talk to your school. Not all middle schools allow 6th graders to take Algebra, and they might be especially reluctant now, given that the kids haven't gotten the complete math curriculum this year.

When you talk to the school, ask them what would happen when your child is in 8th grade and in Algebra 2. Will you be responsible for providing transportation to the high school for math? Will there be a bus? Are there enough 6th graders taking Algebra 1 that there is likely to be an Algebra 2 class taught at the middle school? Then you need to consider, if you will need to provide transportation, is that feasible for your family?


280 is a high-score for an advanced 8th grader. Your child should have no problem with Algebra in 6th if the school will allow it.


280 is definitely a high score, but you can't compare the scores between 5th and 8th graders because it's not the same test. Most kids will see a drop in scores between spring of 5th and fall of 6th.
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2021 11:40     Subject: 5th-6th grade math / Map-M
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looking at this old thread and wondering if my soon-to-be rising 6th grader should consider Algebra next year?

Their last MAP-M was around 280. They didn't get picked for the magnet lottery and were mostly bored to tears by Compacted 5/6.

They're supposed to take AIM next year which may be kind of basic for them. The only reason this might be good is they might be more challenged and engaged.

Any advice?


DCUM can't answer this for you. You need to talk to your school. Not all middle schools allow 6th graders to take Algebra, and they might be especially reluctant now, given that the kids haven't gotten the complete math curriculum this year.

When you talk to the school, ask them what would happen when your child is in 8th grade and in Algebra 2. Will you be responsible for providing transportation to the high school for math? Will there be a bus? Are there enough 6th graders taking Algebra 1 that there is likely to be an Algebra 2 class taught at the middle school? Then you need to consider, if you will need to provide transportation, is that feasible for your family?


280 is a high-score for an advanced 8th grader. Your child should have no problem with Algebra in 6th if the school will allow it.
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2021 11:39     Subject: 5th-6th grade math / Map-M
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looking at this old thread and wondering if my soon-to-be rising 6th grader should consider Algebra next year?

Their last MAP-M was around 280. They didn't get picked for the magnet lottery and were mostly bored to tears by Compacted 5/6.

They're supposed to take AIM next year which may be kind of basic for them. The only reason this might be good is they might be more challenged and engaged.

Any advice?


DCUM can't answer this for you. You need to talk to your school. Not all middle schools allow 6th graders to take Algebra, and they might be especially reluctant now, given that the kids haven't gotten the complete math curriculum this year.

When you talk to the school, ask them what would happen when your child is in 8th grade and in Algebra 2. Will you be responsible for providing transportation to the high school for math? Will there be a bus? Are there enough 6th graders taking Algebra 1 that there is likely to be an Algebra 2 class taught at the middle school? Then you need to consider, if you will need to provide transportation, is that feasible for your family?


Just the opposite at our school. All the kids got the compacted math curriculum and are wrapping it up. I'm not sure who these people are spreading these rumors but they are clearly untrue.
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2021 11:33     Subject: 5th-6th grade math / Map-M
Anonymous wrote:Looking at this old thread and wondering if my soon-to-be rising 6th grader should consider Algebra next year?

Their last MAP-M was around 280. They didn't get picked for the magnet lottery and were mostly bored to tears by Compacted 5/6.

They're supposed to take AIM next year which may be kind of basic for them. The only reason this might be good is they might be more challenged and engaged.

Any advice?


DCUM can't answer this for you. You need to talk to your school. Not all middle schools allow 6th graders to take Algebra, and they might be especially reluctant now, given that the kids haven't gotten the complete math curriculum this year.

When you talk to the school, ask them what would happen when your child is in 8th grade and in Algebra 2. Will you be responsible for providing transportation to the high school for math? Will there be a bus? Are there enough 6th graders taking Algebra 1 that there is likely to be an Algebra 2 class taught at the middle school? Then you need to consider, if you will need to provide transportation, is that feasible for your family?
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2021 11:11     Subject: 5th-6th grade math / Map-M
Looking at this old thread and wondering if my soon-to-be rising 6th grader should consider Algebra next year?

Their last MAP-M was around 280. They didn't get picked for the magnet lottery and were mostly bored to tears by Compacted 5/6.

They're supposed to take AIM next year which may be kind of basic for them. The only reason this might be good is they might be more challenged and engaged.

Any advice?
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2015 21:40     Subject: 5th-6th grade math / Map-M
Haven't heard or seen any Map-M scores for 5th grader in the past two years (at HGC in compacted math). Did get into TPMS and also scores super high on outside tests.

Have an older sib who was super-accelerated and is doing well at TPMS currently. Will say that older sib was skipped two years in elementary. While he can do algebra and extremely complex math with little effort, he is, even now, terrible at percents. This was one of the key elements taught in the years he skipped.

Yes, it's important to make sure that your child is challenged. But you should make sure that the challenge doesn't come at the detriment of missing key material.

Younger brother has found math to be too easy -- even in compacted. But I've chosen to let it be, as my experience with older one tells me that I'd rather he continue to have a strong foundation.

Just saying that Map-M score isn't everything. You don't know exactly what concepts your child has been tested on. He regularly beats his brother at mental math speed, which I attribute largely to the slow-down of math instruction.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2015 21:01     Subject: Re:5th-6th grade math / Map-M
Anonymous wrote:My 5th grader got 245 on Map-M and was bored to death in his Math 5 class. He begged to be transferred to a more advanced class, so I asked for a transfer and was told absolutely not. Requested a meeting with the Tilden principal to discuss assignments for 6th grade, met with her, was told that she would get back to me within days and never heard back. The principal did not respond to my follow up email, so at this point I assume all my efforts were to no avail.


Tilden is a middle school, do 5th graders attend middle school ?
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2015 20:51     Subject: Re:5th-6th grade math / Map-M
Anonymous wrote:My 5th grader got 245 on Map-M and was bored to death in his Math 5 class. He begged to be transferred to a more advanced class, so I asked for a transfer and was told absolutely not. Requested a meeting with the Tilden principal to discuss assignments for 6th grade, met with her, was told that she would get back to me within days and never heard back. The principal did not respond to my follow up email, so at this point I assume all my efforts were to no avail.
I am sorry for you and DC. I hope your child is able to get into IM for next year. I am sure your child will do well in it. Keep checking.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2015 15:19     Subject: Re:5th-6th grade math / Map-M
My 5th grader got 245 on Map-M and was bored to death in his Math 5 class. He begged to be transferred to a more advanced class, so I asked for a transfer and was told absolutely not. Requested a meeting with the Tilden principal to discuss assignments for 6th grade, met with her, was told that she would get back to me within days and never heard back. The principal did not respond to my follow up email, so at this point I assume all my efforts were to no avail.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2015 11:44     Subject: 5th-6th grade math / Map-M
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DS in 5th grade also had a 249. School wouldn't allow him into compacted math and he's never received above grade level instruction. He doesn't complain but I know he's bored. He earns ES on everything but admittedly makes a rare careless error. Private testing showed exceptional math ability. The tester was surprised to learn of his classroom placement and said it was way below his ability. We're leaving MCPS in hopes we can get him off the track he's stuck on. I'm not asking for any special treatment but if there's a class across the hall that meets his needs, why couldn't they at least let him have a test run.

And we aren't concerned about missed material. He has a thorough grasp of pre-algebra.


Does he go to a school that has few kids in compacted math?


Good decision. You need to stand up for your child. Nobody will do it except you. MCPS wants everyone to be the same "gray mass."
There are a lot of resources outside. If you can afford good private, go for it.
Even homeschooling is better then doing nothing at MCPS.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2015 11:38     Subject: 5th-6th grade math / Map-M
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DS in compacted 5th/6th. Taking IM next year, 259 on MAP-M. Got 45 on GT test but did not get in for Middle School.


Did he not do well on the other two sections of the Ms magnet test?


Yes. Did well in Reading but poor in Raven. It is hard to get in to HG. Others did better so deserved it more. But my point was that 259 is high MAP-M but not so high that kid is HG material. [/quoteZ]

Sorry, your child definitely deserves Ms magnet. The issue is space.
45 on test in math is very high and 259 MAP-M is high too.
DO NOT give up on your child. He has big potential.

We got lucky this time. Very similar picture. MAP-M 265. GT test 44. High Raven, but not high reading. Got into Ms Magnet, but previously was Waitlisted for HGC.
You child has good chance for HS if he will be doing math outside of MCPS.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2015 11:24     Subject: 5th-6th grade math / Map-M
what does MAP-M measure exactly? more math knowledge or just deeper thinking.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2015 09:57     Subject: 5th-6th grade math / Map-M
MAP-M 259 for 5th grade is high. I heard a 5th grade recently got 271 at BFES.

SCAT is timed test, so it needs fast problem solving, the test may not get into much higher level math as MAP-M does.