Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:IB is a deal-breaker for me when we look for houses. Not going to do it. I was completely fine with it until I looked into it further. There are a lot of kids who are full-force into IB ... and then they decide later that it's not worth it. These are really motivated kids who for whatever reason decide not to finish it. Yes, they can get college credits for each course, but they have to take all their exams at the end of senior year and several courses are two year courses -- who would want to commit to two years of a single course? Even in college kids don't commit to two years. Seems illogical that anyone would expect a 16 yr. old to commit to a course that long.
In theory, the IB program looks fantastic -- with the capstone and the community service and global thinking... but in practice, it just seems like it doesn't work for the vast majority of kids who are excellent students and very motivated when they start the program.
I also know of a family where they had to make an unexpected military move after the first year of a two year course and the kid wouldn't be going to an IB school once they moved... guess what... no credit for the class he just spent a YEAR on.
In practice, I think most teens are better suited to taking a la carte AP classes. As a parent, I like what IB promises... but seems like it doesn't deliver (or the kids can't/don't deliver the final IB degree very often).
There are a number of homes I would like in several IB school zones... but it's not gonna happen b/c of the IB program.
You must have young kids. Your post is pretty much based on hearsay and is way off.
Not the PP, but he/she makes several valid points.
* Many kids who think they want IB don't end up pursuing the full IB diploma.
* Many IB courses are two-year courses, with exams after senior year.
* If you transfer out of an IB school in FCPS, you end up having to make up courses that kids at non-IB schools take earlier (you'll have sophomores taking standard freshmen classes, juniors taking classes typically taken by sophomores, etc.)
* Some kids consider the IB writing requirements excessive and/or find the diploma program too much of a pressure-cooker.
The IB program doesn't start until junior year.
The IB schools have pre-IB courses for freshmen and sophomores, and they follow a different course sequence than the AP schools, at least in social studies.
And, further to the point, if you pupil place into an IB school, you have to commit to take a minimum number of those pre-IB courses; otherwise, the school can boot you back to your AP school.
Part of the reason is because so many kids want to transfer in to take the IB at some schools that the admin. views it as unfair since you're taking a full IB slot that some other kid might want. I know that at Marshall, for example, they've just started enforcing this because there are so many kids from nearby schools wanting to people place.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:IB is a deal-breaker for me when we look for houses. Not going to do it. I was completely fine with it until I looked into it further. There are a lot of kids who are full-force into IB ... and then they decide later that it's not worth it. These are really motivated kids who for whatever reason decide not to finish it. Yes, they can get college credits for each course, but they have to take all their exams at the end of senior year and several courses are two year courses -- who would want to commit to two years of a single course? Even in college kids don't commit to two years. Seems illogical that anyone would expect a 16 yr. old to commit to a course that long.
In theory, the IB program looks fantastic -- with the capstone and the community service and global thinking... but in practice, it just seems like it doesn't work for the vast majority of kids who are excellent students and very motivated when they start the program.
I also know of a family where they had to make an unexpected military move after the first year of a two year course and the kid wouldn't be going to an IB school once they moved... guess what... no credit for the class he just spent a YEAR on.
In practice, I think most teens are better suited to taking a la carte AP classes. As a parent, I like what IB promises... but seems like it doesn't deliver (or the kids can't/don't deliver the final IB degree very often).
There are a number of homes I would like in several IB school zones... but it's not gonna happen b/c of the IB program.
You must have young kids. Your post is pretty much based on hearsay and is way off.
Not the PP, but he/she makes several valid points.
* Many kids who think they want IB don't end up pursuing the full IB diploma.
* Many IB courses are two-year courses, with exams after senior year.
* If you transfer out of an IB school in FCPS, you end up having to make up courses that kids at non-IB schools take earlier (you'll have sophomores taking standard freshmen classes, juniors taking classes typically taken by sophomores, etc.)
* Some kids consider the IB writing requirements excessive and/or find the diploma program too much of a pressure-cooker.
The IB program doesn't start until junior year.
The IB schools have pre-IB courses for freshmen and sophomores, and they follow a different course sequence than the AP schools, at least in social studies.
And, further to the point, if you pupil place into an IB school, you have to commit to take a minimum number of those pre-IB courses; otherwise, the school can boot you back to your AP school.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:12:32 poster again - wanted to add that Robinson's website has a lot of great info. there to help you learn about IB and the differences between AP vs. IB.
Also, you can take IB classes but not pursue the IB diploma. The diploma is the part that requires the service hours, extended essay and Theory of Knowledge class.
I would be reluctant to send a kid to an IB school if he or she was not getting the full diploma. It is just too easy for colleges and universities to distinguish between students applying from IB schools on that basis.
Knew several kids who got into UVA last year who didn't take the full IB diploma and several who did the full IB and didn't get into UVA. It's one data point, but shows it's hard to make blanket statements. It does depend on the kid.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:IB is a deal-breaker for me when we look for houses. Not going to do it. I was completely fine with it until I looked into it further. There are a lot of kids who are full-force into IB ... and then they decide later that it's not worth it. These are really motivated kids who for whatever reason decide not to finish it. Yes, they can get college credits for each course, but they have to take all their exams at the end of senior year and several courses are two year courses -- who would want to commit to two years of a single course? Even in college kids don't commit to two years. Seems illogical that anyone would expect a 16 yr. old to commit to a course that long.
In theory, the IB program looks fantastic -- with the capstone and the community service and global thinking... but in practice, it just seems like it doesn't work for the vast majority of kids who are excellent students and very motivated when they start the program.
I also know of a family where they had to make an unexpected military move after the first year of a two year course and the kid wouldn't be going to an IB school once they moved... guess what... no credit for the class he just spent a YEAR on.
In practice, I think most teens are better suited to taking a la carte AP classes. As a parent, I like what IB promises... but seems like it doesn't deliver (or the kids can't/don't deliver the final IB degree very often).
There are a number of homes I would like in several IB school zones... but it's not gonna happen b/c of the IB program.
You must have young kids. Your post is pretty much based on hearsay and is way off.
Not the PP, but he/she makes several valid points.
* Many kids who think they want IB don't end up pursuing the full IB diploma.
* Many IB courses are two-year courses, with exams after senior year.
* If you transfer out of an IB school in FCPS, you end up having to make up courses that kids at non-IB schools take earlier (you'll have sophomores taking standard freshmen classes, juniors taking classes typically taken by sophomores, etc.)
* Some kids consider the IB writing requirements excessive and/or find the diploma program too much of a pressure-cooker.
The IB program doesn't start until junior year.
The IB schools have pre-IB courses for freshmen and sophomores, and they follow a different course sequence than the AP schools, at least in social studies.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:IB is a deal-breaker for me when we look for houses. Not going to do it. I was completely fine with it until I looked into it further. There are a lot of kids who are full-force into IB ... and then they decide later that it's not worth it. These are really motivated kids who for whatever reason decide not to finish it. Yes, they can get college credits for each course, but they have to take all their exams at the end of senior year and several courses are two year courses -- who would want to commit to two years of a single course? Even in college kids don't commit to two years. Seems illogical that anyone would expect a 16 yr. old to commit to a course that long.
In theory, the IB program looks fantastic -- with the capstone and the community service and global thinking... but in practice, it just seems like it doesn't work for the vast majority of kids who are excellent students and very motivated when they start the program.
I also know of a family where they had to make an unexpected military move after the first year of a two year course and the kid wouldn't be going to an IB school once they moved... guess what... no credit for the class he just spent a YEAR on.
In practice, I think most teens are better suited to taking a la carte AP classes. As a parent, I like what IB promises... but seems like it doesn't deliver (or the kids can't/don't deliver the final IB degree very often).
There are a number of homes I would like in several IB school zones... but it's not gonna happen b/c of the IB program.
You must have young kids. Your post is pretty much based on hearsay and is way off.
Not the PP, but he/she makes several valid points.
* Many kids who think they want IB don't end up pursuing the full IB diploma.
* Many IB courses are two-year courses, with exams after senior year.
* If you transfer out of an IB school in FCPS, you end up having to make up courses that kids at non-IB schools take earlier (you'll have sophomores taking standard freshmen classes, juniors taking classes typically taken by sophomores, etc.)
* Some kids consider the IB writing requirements excessive and/or find the diploma program too much of a pressure-cooker.
The IB program doesn't start until junior year.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:IB is a deal-breaker for me when we look for houses. Not going to do it. I was completely fine with it until I looked into it further. There are a lot of kids who are full-force into IB ... and then they decide later that it's not worth it. These are really motivated kids who for whatever reason decide not to finish it. Yes, they can get college credits for each course, but they have to take all their exams at the end of senior year and several courses are two year courses -- who would want to commit to two years of a single course? Even in college kids don't commit to two years. Seems illogical that anyone would expect a 16 yr. old to commit to a course that long.
In theory, the IB program looks fantastic -- with the capstone and the community service and global thinking... but in practice, it just seems like it doesn't work for the vast majority of kids who are excellent students and very motivated when they start the program.
I also know of a family where they had to make an unexpected military move after the first year of a two year course and the kid wouldn't be going to an IB school once they moved... guess what... no credit for the class he just spent a YEAR on.
In practice, I think most teens are better suited to taking a la carte AP classes. As a parent, I like what IB promises... but seems like it doesn't deliver (or the kids can't/don't deliver the final IB degree very often).
There are a number of homes I would like in several IB school zones... but it's not gonna happen b/c of the IB program.
You can take the IB courses a la carte for the same result as the AP a la carte. We know a lot of AP parents got upset when colleges but IB on equal footing as AP a few years a go because it threatens their housing values and choice to shun IBs. Get over it.
I think you and PP are talking past each other. Students now can often get similar course credit for good scores on IB exams as they can for for good scores on AP exams. That's different from addressing which program is viewed as a better fit for more kids. In FCPS, it's AP. That why Woodson rejected IB, you don't see parents at Langley, McLean or Madison pushing for IB, and the number of IB diploma candidates is so low at most of the schools in FCPS that have IB. I will say that, if the OP decides IB is right for her kid, she's lucky because he/she will go to either Marshall or South Lakes, and they have two of the better IB programs in the county.
I'm so glad we have someone like you around to tell us what the best fit for our kids is.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:IB is a deal-breaker for me when we look for houses. Not going to do it. I was completely fine with it until I looked into it further. There are a lot of kids who are full-force into IB ... and then they decide later that it's not worth it. These are really motivated kids who for whatever reason decide not to finish it. Yes, they can get college credits for each course, but they have to take all their exams at the end of senior year and several courses are two year courses -- who would want to commit to two years of a single course? Even in college kids don't commit to two years. Seems illogical that anyone would expect a 16 yr. old to commit to a course that long.
In theory, the IB program looks fantastic -- with the capstone and the community service and global thinking... but in practice, it just seems like it doesn't work for the vast majority of kids who are excellent students and very motivated when they start the program.
I also know of a family where they had to make an unexpected military move after the first year of a two year course and the kid wouldn't be going to an IB school once they moved... guess what... no credit for the class he just spent a YEAR on.
In practice, I think most teens are better suited to taking a la carte AP classes. As a parent, I like what IB promises... but seems like it doesn't deliver (or the kids can't/don't deliver the final IB degree very often).
There are a number of homes I would like in several IB school zones... but it's not gonna happen b/c of the IB program.
You must have young kids. Your post is pretty much based on hearsay and is way off.
Not the PP, but he/she makes several valid points.
* Many kids who think they want IB don't end up pursuing the full IB diploma.
* Many IB courses are two-year courses, with exams after senior year.
* If you transfer out of an IB school in FCPS, you end up having to make up courses that kids at non-IB schools take earlier (you'll have sophomores taking standard freshmen classes, juniors taking classes typically taken by sophomores, etc.)
* Some kids consider the IB writing requirements excessive and/or find the diploma program too much of a pressure-cooker.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:IB is a deal-breaker for me when we look for houses. Not going to do it. I was completely fine with it until I looked into it further. There are a lot of kids who are full-force into IB ... and then they decide later that it's not worth it. These are really motivated kids who for whatever reason decide not to finish it. Yes, they can get college credits for each course, but they have to take all their exams at the end of senior year and several courses are two year courses -- who would want to commit to two years of a single course? Even in college kids don't commit to two years. Seems illogical that anyone would expect a 16 yr. old to commit to a course that long.
In theory, the IB program looks fantastic -- with the capstone and the community service and global thinking... but in practice, it just seems like it doesn't work for the vast majority of kids who are excellent students and very motivated when they start the program.
I also know of a family where they had to make an unexpected military move after the first year of a two year course and the kid wouldn't be going to an IB school once they moved... guess what... no credit for the class he just spent a YEAR on.
In practice, I think most teens are better suited to taking a la carte AP classes. As a parent, I like what IB promises... but seems like it doesn't deliver (or the kids can't/don't deliver the final IB degree very often).
There are a number of homes I would like in several IB school zones... but it's not gonna happen b/c of the IB program.
You can take the IB courses a la carte for the same result as the AP a la carte. We know a lot of AP parents got upset when colleges but IB on equal footing as AP a few years a go because it threatens their housing values and choice to shun IBs. Get over it.
I think you and PP are talking past each other. Students now can often get similar course credit for good scores on IB exams as they can for for good scores on AP exams. That's different from addressing which program is viewed as a better fit for more kids. In FCPS, it's AP. That why Woodson rejected IB, you don't see parents at Langley, McLean or Madison pushing for IB, and the number of IB diploma candidates is so low at most of the schools in FCPS that have IB. I will say that, if the OP decides IB is right for her kid, she's lucky because he/she will go to either Marshall or South Lakes, and they have two of the better IB programs in the county.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:IB is a deal-breaker for me when we look for houses. Not going to do it. I was completely fine with it until I looked into it further. There are a lot of kids who are full-force into IB ... and then they decide later that it's not worth it. These are really motivated kids who for whatever reason decide not to finish it. Yes, they can get college credits for each course, but they have to take all their exams at the end of senior year and several courses are two year courses -- who would want to commit to two years of a single course? Even in college kids don't commit to two years. Seems illogical that anyone would expect a 16 yr. old to commit to a course that long.
In theory, the IB program looks fantastic -- with the capstone and the community service and global thinking... but in practice, it just seems like it doesn't work for the vast majority of kids who are excellent students and very motivated when they start the program.
I also know of a family where they had to make an unexpected military move after the first year of a two year course and the kid wouldn't be going to an IB school once they moved... guess what... no credit for the class he just spent a YEAR on.
In practice, I think most teens are better suited to taking a la carte AP classes. As a parent, I like what IB promises... but seems like it doesn't deliver (or the kids can't/don't deliver the final IB degree very often).
There are a number of homes I would like in several IB school zones... but it's not gonna happen b/c of the IB program.
You must have young kids. Your post is pretty much based on hearsay and is way off.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:IB is a deal-breaker for me when we look for houses. Not going to do it. I was completely fine with it until I looked into it further. There are a lot of kids who are full-force into IB ... and then they decide later that it's not worth it. These are really motivated kids who for whatever reason decide not to finish it. Yes, they can get college credits for each course, but they have to take all their exams at the end of senior year and several courses are two year courses -- who would want to commit to two years of a single course? Even in college kids don't commit to two years. Seems illogical that anyone would expect a 16 yr. old to commit to a course that long.
In theory, the IB program looks fantastic -- with the capstone and the community service and global thinking... but in practice, it just seems like it doesn't work for the vast majority of kids who are excellent students and very motivated when they start the program.
I also know of a family where they had to make an unexpected military move after the first year of a two year course and the kid wouldn't be going to an IB school once they moved... guess what... no credit for the class he just spent a YEAR on.
In practice, I think most teens are better suited to taking a la carte AP classes. As a parent, I like what IB promises... but seems like it doesn't deliver (or the kids can't/don't deliver the final IB degree very often).
There are a number of homes I would like in several IB school zones... but it's not gonna happen b/c of the IB program.
You can take the IB courses a la carte for the same result as the AP a la carte. We know a lot of AP parents got upset when colleges but IB on equal footing as AP a few years a go because it threatens their housing values and choice to shun IBs. Get over it.
Anonymous wrote:
Colleges will take IB credit the same as AP courses one by one regardless of the diploma. The diploma is an added bonus.
Not sure this is accurate. Aren't IB classes two year courses?
I can only speak anecdotally. Both of my kids(AP) had college roommates who went to IB schools. Both of their roommates felt like IB was not worth the effort they put into it. Neither college gave the credit to IB that it did for AP. Pretty sure that both got the IB diploma-but not positive.
Colleges will take IB credit the same as AP courses one by one regardless of the diploma. The diploma is an added bonus.
Anonymous wrote:What school did you xfer from to go to Robinson?
Anonymous wrote:IB is a deal-breaker for me when we look for houses. Not going to do it. I was completely fine with it until I looked into it further. There are a lot of kids who are full-force into IB ... and then they decide later that it's not worth it. These are really motivated kids who for whatever reason decide not to finish it. Yes, they can get college credits for each course, but they have to take all their exams at the end of senior year and several courses are two year courses -- who would want to commit to two years of a single course? Even in college kids don't commit to two years. Seems illogical that anyone would expect a 16 yr. old to commit to a course that long.
In theory, the IB program looks fantastic -- with the capstone and the community service and global thinking... but in practice, it just seems like it doesn't work for the vast majority of kids who are excellent students and very motivated when they start the program.
I also know of a family where they had to make an unexpected military move after the first year of a two year course and the kid wouldn't be going to an IB school once they moved... guess what... no credit for the class he just spent a YEAR on.
In practice, I think most teens are better suited to taking a la carte AP classes. As a parent, I like what IB promises... but seems like it doesn't deliver (or the kids can't/don't deliver the final IB degree very often).
There are a number of homes I would like in several IB school zones... but it's not gonna happen b/c of the IB program.
Anonymous wrote:IB is a deal-breaker for me when we look for houses. Not going to do it. I was completely fine with it until I looked into it further. There are a lot of kids who are full-force into IB ... and then they decide later that it's not worth it. These are really motivated kids who for whatever reason decide not to finish it. Yes, they can get college credits for each course, but they have to take all their exams at the end of senior year and several courses are two year courses -- who would want to commit to two years of a single course? Even in college kids don't commit to two years. Seems illogical that anyone would expect a 16 yr. old to commit to a course that long.
In theory, the IB program looks fantastic -- with the capstone and the community service and global thinking... but in practice, it just seems like it doesn't work for the vast majority of kids who are excellent students and very motivated when they start the program.
I also know of a family where they had to make an unexpected military move after the first year of a two year course and the kid wouldn't be going to an IB school once they moved... guess what... no credit for the class he just spent a YEAR on.
In practice, I think most teens are better suited to taking a la carte AP classes. As a parent, I like what IB promises... but seems like it doesn't deliver (or the kids can't/don't deliver the final IB degree very often).
There are a number of homes I would like in several IB school zones... but it's not gonna happen b/c of the IB program.