Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 09:07     Subject: Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

Anonymous wrote:It's smart. It runs the morons out of the state to liberal states that tolerate every kind of bs. Everybody gets what they want .


Gosh, I live in one of the most liberal cities in the country, and I am fairly liberal. However, I think there should be limits to handouts and welfare should be viewed as a way to step out of poverty. We as a country must take care of our poor, but we have got to find a better way of doing it. Generational poverty is not the answer.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 06:42     Subject: Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The swimming thing is stupid, but the rest? Great idea. Let's enact it everywhere.


The casino thing is the most concerning. Casino's are a huge employer of entry level/minimum wage employees. They hire many many people who are transitioning from TANF to employment. Making it impossible for those people to withdraw money for bus fare home, or buy a meal if they've been offered an extra shift, is a perfect example of conservative posturing at the expense of people's employment.
For Pete's sake...


What? It makes sense.

And don't forget the harm to the poor casino owner. Some casino owners have gone out of business; it isn't easy work owning your own casino.

And they provide a service that is legal in many states.

Plus many are on Native American land - meaning most of the workers are people of color that are going to get hurt by this!


Fine. The workers can plan in advance and use their own hard-earned money to pay for bus fare or meals.
Using tax-payer funded money at a casino is ridiculous.
Prostitutes are legal in Vegas - do you want these people using their cards to pay for prostitutes on the tax payer’s dime?
Just because it is “legal” doesn’t mean we need to foot the bill for it.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 06:37     Subject: Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The swimming thing is stupid, but the rest? Great idea. Let's enact it everywhere.


The casino thing is the most concerning. Casino's are a huge employer of entry level/minimum wage employees. They hire many many people who are transitioning from TANF to employment. Making it impossible for those people to withdraw money for bus fare home, or buy a meal if they've been offered an extra shift, is a perfect example of conservative posturing at the expense of people's employment.
For Pete's sake...


What? It makes sense.

And don't forget the harm to the poor casino owner. Some casino owners have gone out of business; it isn't easy work owning your own casino.

And they provide a service that is legal in many states.

Plus many are on Native American land - meaning most of the workers are people of color that are going to get hurt by this!
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2015 23:50     Subject: Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The swimming thing is stupid, but the rest? Great idea. Let's enact it everywhere.


The casino thing is the most concerning. Casino's are a huge employer of entry level/minimum wage employees. They hire many many people who are transitioning from TANF to employment. Making it impossible for those people to withdraw money for bus fare home, or buy a meal if they've been offered an extra shift, is a perfect example of conservative posturing at the expense of people's employment.
For Pete's sake...
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2015 23:21     Subject: Re:Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

INDIANAPOLIS (WISH) — Four Indianapolis women are facing more than 60 felony counts related to an alleged fraud scheme prosecutors say helped them steal additional food stamps and child care services which they had not earned.

The amount of money fraudulently obtained by the women totaled more than $100,000, according to the Marion County Prosecutor’s Office.

Among those charged were: Leticia Falconer, Debera Anderson, Asia Malone and Laquisha Flowers.

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Anonymous
Post 04/07/2015 22:15     Subject: Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

Anonymous wrote:The swimming thing is stupid, but the rest? Great idea. Let's enact it everywhere.


The casino thing is the most concerning. Casino's are a huge employer of entry level/minimum wage employees. They hire many many people who are transitioning from TANF to employment. Making it impossible for those people to withdraw money for bus fare home, or buy a meal if they've been offered an extra shift, is a perfect example of conservative posturing at the expense of people's employment.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2015 22:04     Subject: Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The swimming thing is stupid, but the rest? Great idea. Let's enact it everywhere.


+1000


I wonder why they even included the swimming pool.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2015 20:33     Subject: Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

Anonymous wrote:The swimming thing is stupid, but the rest? Great idea. Let's enact it everywhere.


+1000
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2015 20:28     Subject: Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

The swimming thing is stupid, but the rest? Great idea. Let's enact it everywhere.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2015 20:26     Subject: Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

Anonymous wrote:The swimming pool restriction strikes me as mean, because it is a way for the kids to get exercise and enjoy being outdoors. The rest of it I am fine with. I don't see any need for the government to subsidize people's tattoos, gambling, or visits to psychics.


Yup, I agree. Swimming would be good for exercise, socialization, hanging out with friends etc. There are really no negatives; tattoos, gambling, psychics are all negatives; noting really good about them and I don't think the govt should be subsidizing them. I think the list needs refinement, and I'm not at all sure how they would enforce it, but I honestly think it's a decent idea.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2015 20:18     Subject: Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

The swimming restriction is just awful. Swimming is healthy exercise, and there's already a problem with city kids not knowing how to swim. Terrible.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2015 19:50     Subject: Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

Well when I was broke and in college I never went out to eat or see a movie.

I made a budget. I did not have a credit card.

It is not the hard.

I think the poor stay poor because they have kids early, smoke, drink and can't save.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2015 19:35     Subject: Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

Its partially mean spirited but I don't think its unreasonable. I do think something like swimming is when some counties have low income programs. I think it would be good to divide up food stamps to be given weekly instead of monthly and if you are on cash assistance for rent/utilities (especially low income/public/hoc) to be taken directly out to ensure that housing is maintained. The idea isn't bad but how they implement it.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2015 19:35     Subject: Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

The swimming pool restriction strikes me as mean, because it is a way for the kids to get exercise and enjoy being outdoors. The rest of it I am fine with. I don't see any need for the government to subsidize people's tattoos, gambling, or visits to psychics.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2015 19:30     Subject: Re:Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

You work hard so they don't have to.