Anonymous
03/29/2015 23:12
Subject: Which colleges are the B students going to from the top independent schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Completely anecdotal from my DD's school over the past few years... assume $ isn't a factor because then it is a different game. This is reflective of a typical UMC unhooked student (did not include the student with Cs who is now at Stanford due to parental sway and boat loads of $$$$$ etc.
A student: Ivies, MIT, CalTech, Williams, Amherst etc.
A/B Student: Michigan, William & Mary, Pomona, Bowdoin, Ivy Specialty Schools(I.e. Cornell Human Ecology, Upenn Nursing etc.), Wellesley, Lehigh, UCLA etc.
B student: Bates, Colby, Hamilton, BC, BU, Oberlin, Mcallister, Carleton, Scripps, Pitzer, Spellman, GWU, Washington & Lee, UT Austin, Villanova, Wisconsin, USC etc.
B/C student: Pepperdine, SMU, College of Charleston, Elon, High Point, Clark, Conn College, Trinity, Dickinson, Denison Muhlenberg, Ithaca, Lewis and Clark, UDel, Drexel, American, Kenyon, Rollins, Random southern state schools (Ole Miss, University of South Carolina, UGA)
I would move American and Denison, maybe Kenyon, to the A/B range. Admissions are getting tough at those schools.
Kenyon yes, the others no. My B/C student was w/l at Kenyon, got merit money at Denison.
Anonymous
03/29/2015 23:12
Subject: Which colleges are the B students going to from the top independent schools?
The reason kids from Sidwell ( and a few other schools in DC that grade stringently) get into very competitive schools with Bs is that the colleges know about grade deflation at Sidwell. Competitive colleges and universities have a formula that they use to adjust grade point averages up or down and these are marked on the admissions folder prior to it being read by the admissions officer. Also the admissions officers themselves know what grades mean from these schools. There is another thread in which this process is described in some detail.
Anonymous
03/29/2015 23:05
Subject: Which colleges are the B students going to from the top independent schools?
Anonymous wrote:Completely anecdotal from my DD's school over the past few years... assume $ isn't a factor because then it is a different game. This is reflective of a typical UMC unhooked student (did not include the student with Cs who is now at Stanford due to parental sway and boat loads of $$$$$ etc.
A student: Ivies, MIT, CalTech, Williams, Amherst etc.
A/B Student: Michigan, William & Mary, Pomona, Bowdoin, Ivy Specialty Schools(I.e. Cornell Human Ecology, Upenn Nursing etc.), Wellesley, Lehigh, UCLA etc.
B student: Bates, Colby, Hamilton, BC, BU, Oberlin, Mcallister, Carleton, Scripps, Pitzer, Spellman, GWU, Washington & Lee, UT Austin, Villanova, Wisconsin, USC etc.
B/C student: Pepperdine, SMU, College of Charleston, Elon, High Point, Clark, Conn College, Trinity, Dickinson, Denison Muhlenberg, Ithaca, Lewis and Clark, UDel, Drexel, American, Kenyon, Rollins, Random southern state schools (Ole Miss, University of South Carolina, UGA)
I would move American and Denison, maybe Kenyon, to the A/B range. Admissions are getting tough at those schools.
Anonymous
03/29/2015 22:45
Subject: Which colleges are the B students going to from the top independent schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Woahh if a B student can get into USC which accepts 17% of its applicants or an A/B kid can go out of state to UCLA maybe these schools are worth the cash.
-signed mildly impressed suburban public school parent
Particularly since UCLA is ranked second among public universities in the United States (after Berkeley), and had about 110,000 applicants this year.
Most of those were from morons with no real chance at being admitted.
Anonymous
03/29/2015 21:57
Subject: Which colleges are the B students going to from the top independent schools?
What about Purdue? My B student has family friends that went there. Is anyone else from around here considering it from a top private?
Anonymous
03/29/2015 21:51
Subject: Which colleges are the B students going to from the top independent schools?
Anonymous wrote:Completely anecdotal from my DD's school over the past few years... assume $ isn't a factor because then it is a different game. This is reflective of a typical UMC unhooked student (did not include the student with Cs who is now at Stanford due to parental sway and boat loads of $$$$$ etc.
A student: Ivies, MIT, CalTech, Williams, Amherst etc.
A/B Student: Michigan, William & Mary, Pomona, Bowdoin, Ivy Specialty Schools(I.e. Cornell Human Ecology, Upenn Nursing etc.), Wellesley, Lehigh, UCLA etc.
B student: Bates, Colby, Hamilton, BC, BU, Oberlin, Mcallister, Carleton, Scripps, Pitzer, Spellman, GWU, Washington & Lee, UT Austin, Villanova, Wisconsin, USC etc.
B/C student: Pepperdine, SMU, College of Charleston, Elon, High Point, Clark, Conn College, Trinity, Dickinson, Denison Muhlenberg, Ithaca, Lewis and Clark, UDel, Drexel, American, Kenyon, Rollins, Random southern state schools (Ole Miss, University of South Carolina, UGA)
I'd definitely move Oberlin and Carlton up to the A/B range, with Carlton a little harder to get into that Oberlin. UT Austin probably needs to move up, too -- it's gotten really hard to get into out of state.
Anonymous
03/29/2015 21:12
Subject: Which colleges are the B students going to from the top independent schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Completely anecdotal from my DD's school over the past few years... assume $ isn't a factor because then it is a different game. This is reflective of a typical UMC unhooked student (did not include the student with Cs who is now at Stanford due to parental sway and boat loads of $$$$$ etc.
A student: Ivies, MIT, CalTech, Williams, Amherst etc.
A/B Student: Michigan, William & Mary, Pomona, Bowdoin, Ivy Specialty Schools(I.e. Cornell Human Ecology, Upenn Nursing etc.), Wellesley, Lehigh, UCLA etc.
B student: Bates, Colby, Hamilton, BC, BU, Oberlin, Mcallister, Carleton, Scripps, Pitzer, Spellman, GWU, Washington & Lee, UT Austin, Villanova, Wisconsin, USC etc.
B/C student: Pepperdine, SMU, College of Charleston, Elon, High Point, Clark, Conn College, Trinity, Dickinson, Denison Muhlenberg, Ithaca, Lewis and Clark, UDel, Drexel, American, Kenyon, Rollins, Random southern state schools (Ole Miss, University of South Carolina, UGA)
Wow! It's very impressive to me that a kid with a GPA in the 3.0-3.3 range would get into BC, Carleton, etc.
I think it would be very tough to get into Carleton on that
+1 Not without a serious hook.
Washington & Lee, too.
And there's no way Lehigh is more difficult to get into for the majority of kids than most of the schools on the "B student" list.
+2
I know several students who were rejected at W &L &/or Carleton but admitted at Lehigh & none for whom the reverse is true. My own DD was rejected from W & L & waitlisted at GW & Colby (she eventually got off the WL at Colby but not GW) but was offered an academic scholarship at Lehigh.
Davidson also belongs on the A/B list, too, IMO. A lot of excellent students from privates who are not quite HPY level seem to go there.
Remember that geographic diversity factors in here too. lehigh is much tougher to get into if you are from NY, PA, NJ or Conn. Those of us in MD, DC, VA have an advantage in admission. Don't confuse how much easier it is to get into with the stature of the university.
Anonymous
03/29/2015 20:44
Subject: Which colleges are the B students going to from the top independent schools?
Holton gives Cs.
Anonymous
03/29/2015 20:37
Subject: Which colleges are the B students going to from the top independent schools?
STA gives Cs. All schools hand 'em out.
Anonymous
03/29/2015 19:36
Subject: Re:Which colleges are the B students going to from the top independent schools?
There's a lot more to college admissions than just grades. There are some B students ( & a lot of A/B students) who are more desirable to colleges than many A students.
Anonymous
03/29/2015 19:34
Subject: Which colleges are the B students going to from the top independent schools?
I am the poster who made the list -- again, completely anecdotal based on what I have seen among my DD's friends at her school. Of course I don't know students actual grades or standardized scores or if their family needs aid or has some big hook I am unaware of... this is just observation and speculation on my part. Please don't take it as Bible! Also feel free to make your own lists based on your child's school.
Anonymous
03/29/2015 19:32
Subject: Re:Which colleges are the B students going to from the top independent schools?
For my DCs and their friends, the clincher for a/b or b students is test scores. A 3.3 with a 34 act is going to look much different than a 3.3 with a 29. Ditto for extracurriculars for the "holistic" schools.
Anonymous
03/29/2015 19:26
Subject: Which colleges are the B students going to from the top independent schools?
Kenyon is not taking a B/C student, and I think Bates, Hamilton and Colby are probably closer to A/B. My B student got into a top 30 liberal arts school as did several of her peers.
Anonymous
03/29/2015 19:16
Subject: Which colleges are the B students going to from the top independent schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Completely anecdotal from my DD's school over the past few years... assume $ isn't a factor because then it is a different game. This is reflective of a typical UMC unhooked student (did not include the student with Cs who is now at Stanford due to parental sway and boat loads of $$$$$ etc.
A student: Ivies, MIT, CalTech, Williams, Amherst etc.
A/B Student: Michigan, William & Mary, Pomona, Bowdoin, Ivy Specialty Schools(I.e. Cornell Human Ecology, Upenn Nursing etc.), Wellesley, Lehigh, UCLA etc.
B student: Bates, Colby, Hamilton, BC, BU, Oberlin, Mcallister, Carleton, Scripps, Pitzer, Spellman, GWU, Washington & Lee, UT Austin, Villanova, Wisconsin, USC etc.
B/C student: Pepperdine, SMU, College of Charleston, Elon, High Point, Clark, Conn College, Trinity, Dickinson, Denison Muhlenberg, Ithaca, Lewis and Clark, UDel, Drexel, American, Kenyon, Rollins, Random southern state schools (Ole Miss, University of South Carolina, UGA)
Wow! It's very impressive to me that a kid with a GPA in the 3.0-3.3 range would get into BC, Carleton, etc.
I think it would be very tough to get into Carleton on that
+1 Not without a serious hook.
Washington & Lee, too.
And there's no way Lehigh is more difficult to get into for the majority of kids than most of the schools on the "B student" list.
+2
I know several students who were rejected at W &L &/or Carleton but admitted at Lehigh & none for whom the reverse is true. My own DD was rejected from W & L & waitlisted at GW & Colby (she eventually got off the WL at Colby but not GW) but was offered an academic scholarship at Lehigh.
Davidson also belongs on the A/B list, too, IMO. A lot of excellent students from privates who are not quite HPY level seem to go there.
Anonymous
03/29/2015 19:06
Subject: Which colleges are the B students going to from the top independent schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Completely anecdotal from my DD's school over the past few years... assume $ isn't a factor because then it is a different game. This is reflective of a typical UMC unhooked student (did not include the student with Cs who is now at Stanford due to parental sway and boat loads of $$$$$ etc.
A student: Ivies, MIT, CalTech, Williams, Amherst etc.
A/B Student: Michigan, William & Mary, Pomona, Bowdoin, Ivy Specialty Schools(I.e. Cornell Human Ecology, Upenn Nursing etc.), Wellesley, Lehigh, UCLA etc.
B student: Bates, Colby, Hamilton, BC, BU, Oberlin, Mcallister, Carleton, Scripps, Pitzer, Spellman, GWU, Washington & Lee, UT Austin, Villanova, Wisconsin, USC etc.
B/C student: Pepperdine, SMU, College of Charleston, Elon, High Point, Clark, Conn College, Trinity, Dickinson, Denison Muhlenberg, Ithaca, Lewis and Clark, UDel, Drexel, American, Kenyon, Rollins, Random southern state schools (Ole Miss, University of South Carolina, UGA)
Wow! It's very impressive to me that a kid with a GPA in the 3.0-3.3 range would get into BC, Carleton, etc.
I think it would be very tough to get into Carleton on that
+1 Not without a serious hook.
Washington & Lee, too.
And there's no way Lehigh is more difficult to get into for the majority of kids than most of the schools on the "B student" list.