Anonymous
Post 03/23/2015 11:37     Subject: redshirting has a negative effect on student outcomes
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/25/opinion/sunday/dont-delay-your-kindergartners-start.html?_r=0

I think this is much more relevant for the DCUM crowd.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2015 11:20     Subject: Re:redshirting has a negative effect on student outcomes

My child is an August birthday and is the youngest in his class. No one has suggested he has ADHD and he gets good behavior reports from his teachers. I've notice that at times he can be a bit socially immature vs. some of his other friends, but otherwise he is fine.


That's the problem with this board. Everyone generalizes. It is good that your child is doing well, but some other late birthday boys do not. His parents should have the option of redshirting.




Anonymous
Post 03/23/2015 11:09     Subject: redshirting has a negative effect on student outcomes
My child is an August birthday and is the youngest in his class. No one has suggested he has ADHD and he gets good behavior reports from his teachers. I've notice that at times he can be a bit socially immature vs. some of his other friends, but otherwise he is fine.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2015 10:56     Subject: Re:redshirting has a negative effect on student outcomes





http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/05/health/adhd-diagnosis-youngest-kids/

Not the PP, but here is one example on the youngest in class are more likely to be labeled ADHD.


This addressed the youngest within the regular framework of admission year. If I had a young child for the grade, this would encourage me to redshirt.


Anonymous
Post 03/23/2015 10:11     Subject: Re:redshirting has a negative effect on student outcomes
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Not the PP, but here is one example on the youngest in class are more likely to be labeled ADHD.


Didn't PP imply that it was the oldest kids who were ADD?






PP was saying that having older kids in the class led to younger kids being diagnosed with ADHD.


This. This poster was talking about the effects of redshirting on other kids who were sent on time.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2015 10:01     Subject: Re:redshirting has a negative effect on student outcomes
Anonymous wrote:

Not the PP, but here is one example on the youngest in class are more likely to be labeled ADHD.


Didn't PP imply that it was the oldest kids who were ADD?






PP was saying that having older kids in the class led to younger kids being diagnosed with ADHD.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2015 09:59     Subject: Re:redshirting has a negative effect on student outcomes

Not the PP, but here is one example on the youngest in class are more likely to be labeled ADHD.


Didn't PP imply that it was the oldest kids who were ADD?




Anonymous
Post 03/23/2015 09:57     Subject: redshirting has a negative effect on student outcomes
http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/05/health/adhd-diagnosis-youngest-kids/

Not the PP, but here is one example on the youngest in class are more likely to be labeled ADHD.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2015 09:38     Subject: Re:redshirting has a negative effect on student outcomes
Anonymous wrote:

Duh. Research consistently shows teachers and administrators adjust their expectations towards the average age of the class. This results in a statistically significant increase in add, adhd type labeling of children in the classes having the larger numbers of redshirted kids. Glad kids who need the time get it, but it does impact others...



Pretty big leap in logic on the "research" there.....


I'd be really interested in seeing this research. CITE.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2015 08:54     Subject: redshirting has a negative effect on student outcomes
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yep, you convinced me, I am super concerned that my August child who is 2 weeks older than some "on-time" children will have a horrible outcome in life. Worry about your own child and allow parents to make the right decision for their own child.


+1
Can you believe someone is loony enough to "worry" about kids who start school later? Unbelievable.


Duh. Research consistently shows teachers and administrators adjust their expectations towards the average age of the class. This results in a statistically significant increase in add, adhd type labeling of children in the classes having the larger numbers of redshirted kids. Glad kids who need the time get it, but it does impact others...


Which research, precisely? Study names would be enough; I can check the content myself. I am familiar with most of the actual studies in this area and I don't believe I've seen that conclusion, but of course there is always new research.


I wish there were a flashing alarm that went off in people's browser windows whenever they typed "research shows..."

Maybe a pop up that says "CITATION NEEDED"? Jeff, try and get on that thanks.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2015 08:51     Subject: Re:redshirting has a negative effect on student outcomes

Duh. Research consistently shows teachers and administrators adjust their expectations towards the average age of the class. This results in a statistically significant increase in add, adhd type labeling of children in the classes having the larger numbers of redshirted kids. Glad kids who need the time get it, but it does impact others...



Pretty big leap in logic on the "research" there.....
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2015 00:54     Subject: redshirting has a negative effect on student outcomes
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yep, you convinced me, I am super concerned that my August child who is 2 weeks older than some "on-time" children will have a horrible outcome in life. Worry about your own child and allow parents to make the right decision for their own child.


+1
Can you believe someone is loony enough to "worry" about kids who start school later? Unbelievable.


Duh. Research consistently shows teachers and administrators adjust their expectations towards the average age of the class. This results in a statistically significant increase in add, adhd type labeling of children in the classes having the larger numbers of redshirted kids. Glad kids who need the time get it, but it does impact others...


Which research, precisely? Study names would be enough; I can check the content myself. I am familiar with most of the actual studies in this area and I don't believe I've seen that conclusion, but of course there is always new research.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2015 23:55     Subject: redshirting has a negative effect on student outcomes
We're in VA, where the cutoff is September 30.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2015 23:51     Subject: redshirting has a negative effect on student outcomes
Wouldn't having a fall birthday make your child one of the oldest, not youngest? MDcutoff is Sept 1??
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2015 23:38     Subject: redshirting has a negative effect on student outcomes
Anonymous wrote:Duh. Research consistently shows teachers and administrators adjust their expectations towards the average age of the class. This results in a statistically significant increase in add, adhd type labeling of children in the classes having the larger numbers of redshirted kids. Glad kids who need the time get it, but it does impact others...


I admit I'm very nervous about this. We are planning to send our fall birthday boy on time. I don't think he has ADD, although it is in his family. But I don't want him diagnosed because of immaturity based on his young age, instead of actual ADD. Well, we'll face that problem if it comes up, in the future.