Anonymous
Post 02/23/2015 07:07     Subject: Re:Race and College Admissions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting that Harvard Law grad Michelle Obama failed her bar exam the first time out.


She's in distinguished company.

http://abovethelaw.com/2007/07/the-bar-exam-a-list-of-famous-failures/


F. Lee Bailey failed the Florida Bar the first time he took it.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2015 06:47     Subject: Re:Race and College Admissions
Anonymous wrote:Interesting that Harvard Law grad Michelle Obama failed her bar exam the first time out.


She's in distinguished company.

http://abovethelaw.com/2007/07/the-bar-exam-a-list-of-famous-failures/
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2015 23:48     Subject: Re:Race and College Admissions
Anonymous wrote:


Aren't white women the primary beneficiaries of affirmative action for jobs?


No blacks are.


Absolutely incorrect. Women are.


You gotta be kidding me. Blacks are! I bet more than 90% of blacks in colleges are due to AAction.


HBCUs are a form of affirmative action?
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2015 22:18     Subject: Race and College Admissions


I'm sure that AA helped me get into law school. News flash - all exams are anonymous. The bar is certainly colorblind. If I wasn't ready, I wouldn't have graduated top 5% in my class or passed the bar with a high score!!


Hard to believe. Thank God for DCUM, right?
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2015 22:15     Subject: Re:Race and College Admissions
Interesting that Harvard Law grad Michelle Obama failed her bar exam the first time out.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2015 21:48     Subject: Race and College Admissions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:worked for obama and it'll work for my kid



Uh, no it didn't. It propelled him to a place where he didn't have the tools, skills, life experience, or brain power to pull off the job. AA actually ruined his life and probably ultimately his marriage.


I agree that it worked for Obama - white grandparents, expensive prep school, affirmative action to Columbia and Harvard Law and internships. Who knows if he even paid a nominal fee for anything given his Phd liberal arts birth mom had low income, his father(s) were awol, and his grandparents paid the bills if they were even billed a fraction of sticker price.

And I also agree that being a full-time community activist living off donations from eternal campaigning does not create business, management, leadership, foreign diplomacy nor budgeting skills.

Secondarily, being swept up in numbers games for affirmative action likely makes one think a combination of two things: (1) I'm super great and better than anyone else, and (2) Life is so easy for me, nothing is a struggle and normal metrics (grades, real life experience) don't matter.


I'm sure that AA helped me get into law school. News flash - all exams are anonymous. The bar is certainly colorblind. If I wasn't ready, I wouldn't have graduated top 5% in my class or passed the bar with a high score!!


This
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2015 21:06     Subject: Re:Race and College Admissions



Aren't white women the primary beneficiaries of affirmative action for jobs?


No blacks are.


Absolutely incorrect. Women are.


You gotta be kidding me. Blacks are! I bet more than 90% of blacks in colleges are due to AAction.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2015 20:58     Subject: Race and College Admissions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:worked for obama and it'll work for my kid



Uh, no it didn't. It propelled him to a place where he didn't have the tools, skills, life experience, or brain power to pull off the job. AA actually ruined his life and probably ultimately his marriage.


I agree that it worked for Obama - white grandparents, expensive prep school, affirmative action to Columbia and Harvard Law and internships. Who knows if he even paid a nominal fee for anything given his Phd liberal arts birth mom had low income, his father(s) were awol, and his grandparents paid the bills if they were even billed a fraction of sticker price.

And I also agree that being a full-time community activist living off donations from eternal campaigning does not create business, management, leadership, foreign diplomacy nor budgeting skills.

Secondarily, being swept up in numbers games for affirmative action likely makes one think a combination of two things: (1) I'm super great and better than anyone else, and (2) Life is so easy for me, nothing is a struggle and normal metrics (grades, real life experience) don't matter.


I'm sure that AA helped me get into law school. News flash - all exams are anonymous. The bar is certainly colorblind. If I wasn't ready, I wouldn't have graduated top 5% in my class or passed the bar with a high score!!
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2015 20:55     Subject: Re:Race and College Admissions
Anonymous wrote:That reminds me (because I read the print edition an hour ago) of this farce:
http://www.bizjournals.com/washington/event/114181

Washington Business Journal Minority Business Leader awards. So the only criteria to qualify is you need to be non-white. Nothing about your economic background, struggles in life, etc. One of the people featured is actually extremely wealth as she and her husband founded BET television, and how post-divorce she's started a new business, I assume funded with the money from selling that business.



So the fact that she is the first black female billionaire who started a company from scratch without family wealth doesn't mean anything? No one gave her ANYTHING!
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2015 20:54     Subject: Race and College Admissions
College admissions directors want a diverse class. Diversity means class, age, home town, interests, etc. That's why not everyone with perfect scores get into the ivy leagues. That's also why not every qualified kid from Northern Virginia gets into UVA. The school wants a diverse class.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2015 20:52     Subject: Race and College Admissions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:worked for obama and it'll work for my kid



Uh, no it didn't. It propelled him to a place where he didn't have the tools, skills, life experience, or brain power to pull off the job. AA actually ruined his life and probably ultimately his marriage.


Really? He didn't have to skills to be at Columbia and Harvard Law School. Did he pass his classes and pass the bar?
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2015 20:51     Subject: Re:Race and College Admissions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thought it was stacked against Asians and White men.


I thought it was Asians and white women.


+1 It is actually white WOMEN who have college cards stacked against them as there are significantly more of them applying these days.



Aren't white women the primary beneficiaries of affirmative action for jobs?


No blacks are.


Absolutely incorrect. Women are.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2015 20:51     Subject: Re:Race and College Admissions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Barack and Michelle Obama both went to Ivies as a result of Affirmative Action.


So what? George W. Bush went to Yale as a result of affirmative action.


No he went to Yale as a result of Daddy and legacy.


That's affirmative action.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2015 13:34     Subject: Re:Race and College Admissions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Barack and Michelle Obama both went to Ivies as a result of Affirmative Action.


So what? George W. Bush went to Yale as a result of affirmative action.


No he went to Yale as a result of Daddy and legacy.



I think that's what the poster meant . . . just a different form of Affirmative Action.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2015 13:23     Subject: Race and College Admissions
College admission is the ONLY place where blacks don't encounter racism in America-

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/04/upshot/the-measuring-sticks-of-racial-bias-.html?smid=fb-share&_r=0