Anonymous
Post 02/15/2015 19:08     Subject: Re:Ellie Clougherty and Joe Lonsdale
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is what happens in real life when a relationship is looking even remotely similar to "50 shades of grey".

Joke aside, not OK for him to pursue her when she was that young. It is also very hard for women to be in technology. Guys either are either condescending, or hate you if you are really good and kick their ass. She probably thought she found a short cut.


I don't see the age as an issue


I do. If they are 32 and 40, then no big deal. She was 21 and still in college. He was 29 and a multimillionaire. There was no way this could be a partnership of equals.


I can't help but think his money played a big role in her cry of rape.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2015 18:38     Subject: Ellie Clougherty and Joe Lonsdale
I'm getting tired of stories of "rape" that do a real disservice to women who have actually been raped. I feel for this young woman because she clearly had many emotional disturbances that left her vulnerable. Her mother certainly contributed to it. This case has no business being one and the lawsuit is ridiculous. I hope the mother and daughter change their minds and she can move on with her life.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2015 18:11     Subject: Ellie Clougherty and Joe Lonsdale
Leaving out how the "he said, she said" sorts out, what is the story here? I fail to see what made it the lead story in the Times' Sunday magazine.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2015 18:04     Subject: Re:Ellie Clougherty and Joe Lonsdale
No it's not
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2015 17:52     Subject: Ellie Clougherty and Joe Lonsdale
Anonymous wrote:My parents were ten years apart and met when my mother was 21. They were married for 45 years before my mother died. Difference is, the first time my father took her out, my grandmother took down his license plate and told him she'd call the police if he was even 5 minutes late getting her home.

In this case, the mother was clearly pushing the relationship on her beautiful, screwed-up daughter. The mother is the one who ought to be banned for Stanford, and maybe the crackpot therapist too.


That's still creepy for a 31 yo man to be dating a 21 yo woman.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2015 17:51     Subject: Re:Ellie Clougherty and Joe Lonsdale
I don't see the age as an issue


I do. If they are 32 and 40, then no big deal. She was 21 and still in college. He was 29 and a multimillionaire. There was no way this could be a partnership of equals.


Using your logic, multi-millionaires could only be equal partners with other multi-millionaires. Still, it's not like she grew up poor. Her father is an anesthesiologist in FFX County. She had a well established, successful modeling career by the time she was 15. Seems like she was affluent and worldly (virginity not withstanding). They were also in the same age group. My mother (nurse) married my father (doctor) when she was 20 and in nursing school and he was 27. Same age difference, same 'status' as Clougherty and Lonsdale.

Her mother made sure they were introduced and had a relationship before she took the class for which he was a mentor. Both women sounds nutty and vengeful.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2015 17:47     Subject: Ellie Clougherty and Joe Lonsdale
My parents were ten years apart and met when my mother was 21. They were married for 45 years before my mother died. Difference is, the first time my father took her out, my grandmother took down his license plate and told him she'd call the police if he was even 5 minutes late getting her home.

In this case, the mother was clearly pushing the relationship on her beautiful, screwed-up daughter. The mother is the one who ought to be banned for Stanford, and maybe the crackpot therapist too.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2015 17:28     Subject: Re:Ellie Clougherty and Joe Lonsdale
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is what happens in real life when a relationship is looking even remotely similar to "50 shades of grey".

Joke aside, not OK for him to pursue her when she was that young. It is also very hard for women to be in technology. Guys either are either condescending, or hate you if you are really good and kick their ass. She probably thought she found a short cut.


I don't see the age as an issue


I do. If they are 32 and 40, then no big deal. She was 21 and still in college. He was 29 and a multimillionaire. There was no way this could be a partnership of equals.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2015 17:28     Subject: Re:Ellie Clougherty and Joe Lonsdale
Anonymous wrote:Ellie seems to me to be a young, beautiful ( vain? ) girl who was forcing herself to try to love her mentor for his money/ connections. Unfortunately she seems a bit disturbed and when she found she could no longer stand him (it just was not love for her) she turned to anger and accusations. Because after all, there is still ways to get his money. If he did not have serious money, she would have just said goodbye and never mind all the twisting up the relationship. She probably did not enjoy the sex with him -- since it seems that the main attraction was his lifestyle. Her deciding to remain "a virgin" while sharing a hotel room in a foreign country on as expensive vacation seems confused at best. Living out 50 Shades?


Read the materials. He got tired of her because she was such high maintenance, and she was high maintenance because she was a major head case. You could argue he deserved her because he probably liked the idea of a younger model girlfriend who'd stroke his ego, but she's not all that singular in terms of looks, and clearly he'd have steered clear if he'd known how crazy she was and how weird her mother would turn out to be.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2015 17:11     Subject: Re:Ellie Clougherty and Joe Lonsdale
Ellie seems to me to be a young, beautiful ( vain? ) girl who was forcing herself to try to love her mentor for his money/ connections. Unfortunately she seems a bit disturbed and when she found she could no longer stand him (it just was not love for her) she turned to anger and accusations. Because after all, there is still ways to get his money. If he did not have serious money, she would have just said goodbye and never mind all the twisting up the relationship. She probably did not enjoy the sex with him -- since it seems that the main attraction was his lifestyle. Her deciding to remain "a virgin" while sharing a hotel room in a foreign country on as expensive vacation seems confused at best. Living out 50 Shades?
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2015 17:07     Subject: Ellie Clougherty and Joe Lonsdale
The mother is Mrs. Bennet in 2015.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2015 17:05     Subject: Re:Ellie Clougherty and Joe Lonsdale
Anonymous wrote:This is what happens in real life when a relationship is looking even remotely similar to "50 shades of grey".

Joke aside, not OK for him to pursue her when she was that young. It is also very hard for women to be in technology. Guys either are either condescending, or hate you if you are really good and kick their ass. She probably thought she found a short cut.


That young? They were both in their 20s.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2015 17:04     Subject: Re:Ellie Clougherty and Joe Lonsdale
Anonymous wrote:

He was a mentor but not a professor or responsible for her grade. I do think it was bad judgment since one might infer that the level of the help he might offer her could depend on her willingness to have a sexual relationship. But the mom is the real oddball here. Aren't people in Vienna supposed to be more low-key? She sounds like someone you'd find in Georgetown or the Upper East Side.


Not really. We made it here by our own ability and work. We know we do not need to compromise our kids. The social climbers from the burbs do not know better.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2015 17:00     Subject: Re:Ellie Clougherty and Joe Lonsdale
Anonymous wrote:This is what happens in real life when a relationship is looking even remotely similar to "50 shades of grey".

Joke aside, not OK for him to pursue her when she was that young. It is also very hard for women to be in technology. Guys either are either condescending, or hate you if you are really good and kick their ass. She probably thought she found a short cut.


I don't see the age as an issue
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2015 16:57     Subject: Re:Ellie Clougherty and Joe Lonsdale
This is what happens in real life when a relationship is looking even remotely similar to "50 shades of grey".

Joke aside, not OK for him to pursue her when she was that young. It is also very hard for women to be in technology. Guys either are either condescending, or hate you if you are really good and kick their ass. She probably thought she found a short cut.