Anonymous
Post 02/06/2015 19:54     Subject: Entitled EOTP parents
Good God, three pages in and still no concrete examples from OP and most everything has boiled down to "screen time" debates. What a non-thread for a non-issue.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2015 19:52     Subject: Entitled EOTP parents
OP, I think your post is extremely harsh.

I've lived in DC for 25 and I've seen neighbors change, rebrand themselves and yes, gentrify.

There are people like you at our neighborhood school and it made it extremely disfunctional, we left. I don't think you grasp what diversity means. Embrace those who are different than you. It benefits you and your child. We can all grow from working with those who are different.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2015 19:16     Subject: Entitled EOTP parents
Entitled behavior is teachers who expect a nice salary for letting kids watch TV instead of teaching.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2015 19:11     Subject: Entitled EOTP parents
As for so-called "entitled" parents - they are making huge investments, in terms of tax dollars, in terms of volunteer time, fundraising, et cetera - taking an interest in what happens in the school and trying to make it better - as such they want to know that the rest of the system is doing its part. That's not "entitled" behavior.

"Entitled" behavior is what comes from the families who come in and scream at administrators and teachers WITHOUT having put in the investment of money, time, resources to try and make the school better.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2015 19:06     Subject: Entitled EOTP parents
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: Their complaints seem small when taken in the context of larger issues faced by kids in class, but for them, issues like kids getting yogurt with a lot of added sugar for breakfast or Dora the Explorer being shown in aftercare once a week are really big deals. Privilege is what it is.


Oh balls, my kid hasn't transitioned to dcps yet, but if those examples were considered entitlement, I would be a mega monster entitled pain. Is this something else you have to add to the "concrete differences between EOTP and WOTP schools other than wealthy families" thread? Do WOTP appropriately limit screen time to zero in early learning, and have some awareness about the health problems from too much sugar?



The fact that you managed to work "Oh, balls!" and "mega monster" into a a 2 1/2 line post makes me want to buy you an overpriced but DC-brewed pint somewhere near my neighborhood.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2015 18:31     Subject: Entitled EOTP parents
What is wrong with fundraisers? The money goes to help your kids too.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2015 17:42     Subject: Entitled EOTP parents
Anonymous wrote:I still want to know specifically what OP is complaining about at her school. She has given know specifics.


Oops, of course that should read no specifics. Long week.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2015 17:39     Subject: Entitled EOTP parents
I still want to know specifically what OP is complaining about at her school. She has given know specifics.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2015 16:53     Subject: Entitled EOTP parents
Anonymous wrote:

I was referring to the "against OUR values" part, which the father of a PK parent did say. The "our" in question was not referring to his family but to the school. The parents of older kids who didn't have a problem with the policy looked at him like he was crazy.


Did anyone stand up and explain how TV actually is consistent with the school's values? Or just explain why the TV is used? Personally, I don't see if as a problem if there's a reason. Like if it allows the the teachers time to have their planning meeting, or if it's a reward for a week of good behavior, or something, then fine. But I don't see a problem with raising the issue. Schools ramble on about their "values" but there should be some substance behind it. They should be able to explain what they are choosing to do, and why.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2015 16:52     Subject: Entitled EOTP parents
Before you knock those "entitled" parents, remember they may be the ones to finally get some things done at the school. A lot of admins are coasting knowing that low income parents are often a lot less engaged in the school or outcomes for their kids. It "new" parents are coming across abrasive then so be it. I have seen that in a title 1 school already, magically, more activities were available to ps3 and PK4 once all the new parents complained. And EVERY kid benefits. And I have seen a title 1 school turn down any dontations from those entitled parents either.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2015 16:45     Subject: Entitled EOTP parents
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:[


I actually don't disagree with any of that at all. My own school has a screen time policy that has been problematic for some parents. I do think that there needs to be recognition on the part of the new, gentrifier parents that people do not tend to respond well when you enter a school, start saying that the way they did things before you got there is not acceptable/lazy/whatever without really knowing that much about the school other than what happens in their 3 year old's class. When you're attending a school that many would consider failing and you come in and a once-a-week movie is the thing you fixate on as a problem, the people who are worried about the educational and safety issues in the classrooms are going to see you as entitled.

I am not saying that everyone behaves this way, but I have seen it.

I still have no idea what the OP was talking about about fundraisers and classroom priorities.


I agree, people should be more tactful, especially when they are new and don't know much about the school. BUT. If the school is failing, then why on earth are they having TV rather than something more educational? The issues are connected, at least in the minds of many.


+1. Seems even more important to eliminate screen time in the case of failing schools.


I agree completely. There should not be screen time.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2015 16:44     Subject: Entitled EOTP parents
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:[


I actually don't disagree with any of that at all. My own school has a screen time policy that has been problematic for some parents. I do think that there needs to be recognition on the part of the new, gentrifier parents that people do not tend to respond well when you enter a school, start saying that the way they did things before you got there is not acceptable/lazy/whatever without really knowing that much about the school other than what happens in their 3 year old's class. When you're attending a school that many would consider failing and you come in and a once-a-week movie is the thing you fixate on as a problem, the people who are worried about the educational and safety issues in the classrooms are going to see you as entitled.

I am not saying that everyone behaves this way, but I have seen it.

I still have no idea what the OP was talking about about fundraisers and classroom priorities.


I agree, people should be more tactful, especially when they are new and don't know much about the school. BUT. If the school is failing, then why on earth are they having TV rather than something more educational? The issues are connected, at least in the minds of many.


+1. Seems even more important to eliminate screen time in the case of failing schools.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2015 16:42     Subject: Entitled EOTP parents
Anonymous wrote:[


I actually don't disagree with any of that at all. My own school has a screen time policy that has been problematic for some parents. I do think that there needs to be recognition on the part of the new, gentrifier parents that people do not tend to respond well when you enter a school, start saying that the way they did things before you got there is not acceptable/lazy/whatever without really knowing that much about the school other than what happens in their 3 year old's class. When you're attending a school that many would consider failing and you come in and a once-a-week movie is the thing you fixate on as a problem, the people who are worried about the educational and safety issues in the classrooms are going to see you as entitled.

I am not saying that everyone behaves this way, but I have seen it.

I still have no idea what the OP was talking about about fundraisers and classroom priorities.


I agree, people should be more tactful, especially when they are new and don't know much about the school. BUT. If the school is failing, then why on earth are they having TV rather than something more educational? The issues are connected, at least in the minds of many.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2015 16:36     Subject: Entitled EOTP parents
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It does not seem entitled to ask for a school to have a no movies/screen time policy for early childhood, in both the regular program and the after care. Screen time for these grades just means that the school is being lazy.


After care programs should not be showing tv, period.


I agree. It sounds like at least one person on this thread does not.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2015 16:35     Subject: Entitled EOTP parents
Anonymous wrote:It does not seem entitled to ask for a school to have a no movies/screen time policy for early childhood, in both the regular program and the after care. Screen time for these grades just means that the school is being lazy.


After care programs should not be showing tv, period.