Anonymous
Post 01/21/2015 08:39     Subject: 5th grade compact (5/6)
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No- compacted math is only for the very few super strong math students regardless of whether the child is in the HGC or not. It is not designed to just be for the kids who can just learn well enough to advance.


What do you base this on? MCPS says, "The students who will participate in the compacted curriculum are those who have consistently demonstrated proficiency of all grade-level indicators and acceleration opportunities."



That's the premise of the entire class. That it is only for those students that learn the curriculum with more depth at a quicker rate, that can do all of the acceleration, that don't have a peer group, and who pass their countywide test to show that they think at a higher level. It has always been stated that it is not just for kids that are doing just fine. I don't think it matters whether the kids get ES's (since really that seems to depend on the teacher each year), but they are definitely not supposed to just be doing well enough to advance.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2015 07:35     Subject: 5th grade compact (5/6)
Anonymous wrote:No- compacted math is only for the very few super strong math students regardless of whether the child is in the HGC or not. It is not designed to just be for the kids who can just learn well enough to advance.


What do you base this on? MCPS says, "The students who will participate in the compacted curriculum are those who have consistently demonstrated proficiency of all grade-level indicators and acceleration opportunities."

Anonymous
Post 01/21/2015 07:04     Subject: 5th grade compact (5/6)
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No- compacted math is only for the very few super strong math students regardless of whether the child is in the HGC or not. It is not designed to just be for the kids who can just learn well enough to advance.


Glad you don't make the rule who are the very few super strong. LOL




Glad I don't either (though I am sure glad I could make you laugh). Glad there is a strict process in place to determine those strong students. I just wish that all the elementary schools in the county followed the same strict plan so that thing were fair. How horrible of me.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2015 06:20     Subject: 5th grade compact (5/6)
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am okay with the very strict standards to get into the class if they are countywide standards. My issue (and what makes them BS) is that not all of the schools are following them as evidenced above- meaning that some students are being given the chance while others are not even if the children have identical abilities and scores.


Exactly!!!


Just bringing this back - I agree 100%
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2015 00:06     Subject: 5th grade compact (5/6)
Anonymous wrote:No- compacted math is only for the very few super strong math students regardless of whether the child is in the HGC or not. It is not designed to just be for the kids who can just learn well enough to advance.


Glad you don't make the rule who are the very few super strong. LOL
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 23:59     Subject: 5th grade compact (5/6)
No- compacted math is only for the very few super strong math students regardless of whether the child is in the HGC or not. It is not designed to just be for the kids who can just learn well enough to advance.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 23:57     Subject: 5th grade compact (5/6)
I have no idea what the inview tested so I can't respond to its meaningfulness, but I do know that 90th percentile in this county does not represent the select few. I was just responding to that. It also doesn't matter because MapM doesn't seem to tell the teachers anything!
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 23:56     Subject: 5th grade compact (5/6)
Do not be confused with compact math class and HGC. They are totally different.

HGC is for very small number of supper smart kids, Compact math is just combine 5/6 grade math together for those kids who can learn well enough to advance.


Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 23:50     Subject: 5th grade compact (5/6)
Anonymous wrote:MapM scores are not a criteria. My understanding is that they are not even sure how well it correlates with the common core curriculum.

However, since the goal of the class is to meet the needs of the few very advanced students, the 90th percentile is not very high and those students would easily fit into the regular class as that is a normal score in MCPS.

I know that they were looking for at least 95th percentile from their 2nd grade gifted test (I think it is called inview?), so I would assume that is what they would look for the MapM too.


InView is useless. My son got 99th in Sequencing, 96th in Quantitative reasoning, he seems pretty dumb to me. This so-called GT screening is useless.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 23:44     Subject: 5th grade compact (5/6)
Anonymous wrote:Not kidding. This is at HGC and there are others with similar scores. I only mention because these are the kids that NEED the compacted math.


And, it is not HGC ---- it is center for future Fields medalists LOL
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 23:43     Subject: 5th grade compact (5/6)
MapM scores are not a criteria. My understanding is that they are not even sure how well it correlates with the common core curriculum.

However, since the goal of the class is to meet the needs of the few very advanced students, the 90th percentile is not very high and those students would easily fit into the regular class as that is a normal score in MCPS.

I know that they were looking for at least 95th percentile from their 2nd grade gifted test (I think it is called inview?), so I would assume that is what they would look for the MapM too.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 23:41     Subject: 5th grade compact (5/6)
Anonymous wrote:Not kidding. This is at HGC and there are others with similar scores. I only mention because these are the kids that NEED the compacted math.


Probability 0.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 23:38     Subject: 5th grade compact (5/6)
Not kidding. This is at HGC and there are others with similar scores. I only mention because these are the kids that NEED the compacted math.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 23:31     Subject: 5th grade compact (5/6)
Anonymous wrote:W school = Wooton, Whitman, etc

Just to compare. Compacted 4/5 per county criteria and MAP-M in 250s.


You must be kidding

here is 99 percentile (to the roof score) for the

224 3rd grade

237 4th grade

249 5th grade


http://legacysupport.nwea.org/sites/www.nwea.org/files/resources/NWEA%202011%20Norms%20Report_01.17.2012_2.pdf (page 65)


Anonymous
Post 01/20/2015 23:21     Subject: Re:5th grade compact (5/6)
Anonymous



I don't think BFES is the only one. All the other elementary schools that feed into the W school also have more than 50% admittance to the compact math curriculum.


What is this based on? Did you see a statistic somewhere?