Anonymous wrote:11:21/11:24/11:50 again. I don't actually care if she's relentless. I care if she's fair and honest when she's being relentless. If being "relentless" includes introducing new subjects in a dishonest way, like I described at 11:50, then I have a problem with it. When being "relentless" just means she's here to defend her faith honestly, then I have no problem with it.
Anonymous wrote:You call it spin and rationalizing because you disagree with her. She seems to show quite a lot of willingness to engage and she's pretty patient compared to the average poster here.
She probably assume you're a guy and was trying to be cutesy. We all fail at being internet cute sometimes.
Anonymous wrote:I asked Muslima for an explanation for the killing in the kosher grocery. "She" responded by calling me "Buddy" and not answering the question. I find 'buddy" an odd choice of words from a Muslim woman.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think she is here to promote her political and religious views. She walks an extremely fine line on proselytizing though and, in my opinion, has crossed that line a few times not just here but previously in the religious forum also.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You call it spin and rationalizing because you disagree with her. She seems to show quite a lot of willingness to engage and she's pretty patient compared to the average poster here.
Different PP here. The point is, you accused PP of making her answer for every crime committed in the name of her faith, but in fact she's quite free to leave. Nobody's forcing her to respond to anything. Instead she keeps coming back. One person's "willing to engage" is another person's "inserting herself into the discussion." She's definitely not the poster who calls everybody Islamophobic grannies with STDs, although she does sink to childish taunts and dubious rhetorical games. I'm another person who's watched her for a while and engaged her some. While I know quite a bit about Islam and I find her fairly disingenuous, when it comes to her continued participation here, I'm really on the fence about whether I think she's here to promote Islam, or instead I should congratulate her for doggedly sticking with it.
As someone who grew up in an extremely religious household, I feel like I understand Muslima a little bit. She believes that she is showing us the light, and that once she communicates it effectively enough, we will all find Islam as awesome as she does. What seems like her being patient and engaging is actually her humoring you, much like a person would humor a 4 year old talking about their favorite cartoon. She's absolutely not interested in any criticisms you have of Islam (they're all based on misunderstanding anyway), and it shows. Concession=failure. What all this does for her is inflate her sense of self-importance-- she has knowledge no else does, she has a special mission here from God, and how convenient, she can accomplish her mission anonymously on a website with absolutely no risk to herself!
You might think to yourself "oh, that's absolutely crazy and a big waste of her time." Why yes, yes it is. Welcome to being extremely religious.
I seriously doubt she expects you to find it "awesome". Nor does she appears to humor anyone like a little child.
It sounds like you are projecting your childhood onto all of this. Muslims is not responsible for what your parents did to you when you were a four year old.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think she is here to promote her political and religious views. She walks an extremely fine line on proselytizing though and, in my opinion, has crossed that line a few times not just here but previously in the religious forum also.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You call it spin and rationalizing because you disagree with her. She seems to show quite a lot of willingness to engage and she's pretty patient compared to the average poster here.
Different PP here. The point is, you accused PP of making her answer for every crime committed in the name of her faith, but in fact she's quite free to leave. Nobody's forcing her to respond to anything. Instead she keeps coming back. One person's "willing to engage" is another person's "inserting herself into the discussion." She's definitely not the poster who calls everybody Islamophobic grannies with STDs, although she does sink to childish taunts and dubious rhetorical games. I'm another person who's watched her for a while and engaged her some. While I know quite a bit about Islam and I find her fairly disingenuous, when it comes to her continued participation here, I'm really on the fence about whether I think she's here to promote Islam, or instead I should congratulate her for doggedly sticking with it.
As someone who grew up in an extremely religious household, I feel like I understand Muslima a little bit. She believes that she is showing us the light, and that once she communicates it effectively enough, we will all find Islam as awesome as she does. What seems like her being patient and engaging is actually her humoring you, much like a person would humor a 4 year old talking about their favorite cartoon. She's absolutely not interested in any criticisms you have of Islam (they're all based on misunderstanding anyway), and it shows. Concession=failure. What all this does for her is inflate her sense of self-importance-- she has knowledge no else does, she has a special mission here from God, and how convenient, she can accomplish her mission anonymously on a website with absolutely no risk to herself!
You might think to yourself "oh, that's absolutely crazy and a big waste of her time." Why yes, yes it is. Welcome to being extremely religious.
Anonymous wrote:I think she is here to promote her political and religious views. She walks an extremely fine line on proselytizing though and, in my opinion, has crossed that line a few times not just here but previously in the religious forum also.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You call it spin and rationalizing because you disagree with her. She seems to show quite a lot of willingness to engage and she's pretty patient compared to the average poster here.
Different PP here. The point is, you accused PP of making her answer for every crime committed in the name of her faith, but in fact she's quite free to leave. Nobody's forcing her to respond to anything. Instead she keeps coming back. One person's "willing to engage" is another person's "inserting herself into the discussion." She's definitely not the poster who calls everybody Islamophobic grannies with STDs, although she does sink to childish taunts and dubious rhetorical games. I'm another person who's watched her for a while and engaged her some. While I know quite a bit about Islam and I find her fairly disingenuous, when it comes to her continued participation here, I'm really on the fence about whether I think she's here to promote Islam, or instead I should congratulate her for doggedly sticking with it.
I think she is here to promote her political and religious views. She walks an extremely fine line on proselytizing though and, in my opinion, has crossed that line a few times not just here but previously in the religious forum also.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You call it spin and rationalizing because you disagree with her. She seems to show quite a lot of willingness to engage and she's pretty patient compared to the average poster here.
Different PP here. The point is, you accused PP of making her answer for every crime committed in the name of her faith, but in fact she's quite free to leave. Nobody's forcing her to respond to anything. Instead she keeps coming back. One person's "willing to engage" is another person's "inserting herself into the discussion." She's definitely not the poster who calls everybody Islamophobic grannies with STDs, although she does sink to childish taunts and dubious rhetorical games. I'm another person who's watched her for a while and engaged her some. While I know quite a bit about Islam and I find her fairly disingenuous, when it comes to her continued participation here, I'm really on the fence about whether I think she's here to promote Islam, or instead I should congratulate her for doggedly sticking with it.
Anonymous wrote:You call it spin and rationalizing because you disagree with her. She seems to show quite a lot of willingness to engage and she's pretty patient compared to the average poster here.