Please people, get back to the original question. I think the OP has a good point-- does the applicant have a better chance of admittance if they apply as a full pay.? Keep in mind, you could complete financial aid requests for their soph,junior and senior year and receive $$. Do admission offices separate applications for students asking for aid and those you do not? To the students who will not receive any significant aid, should they simply apply full pay?

OP, we are "full pay" people as well. But, not asking for need based financial aid does not eliminate the offer of "merit aid" (or discount for qualified full paid kids) which will come from some places.

Our DC applied to 12 schools, listed not applying for need based aid on every application, and was accepted at all. Some offered "merit aid" which brought the price to about the same as local private high school costs. Some offered only a simple congratulations and a space in the class. But if you are interested where the qualifications put you toward the top of the accepted class, the declining need based aid may incentivize a merit offer from the institution.

In the end our DC chose to go to one that did not offer merit aid, but there were numerous less expensive options that would have been excellent as well. Good luck.

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Anonymous wrote:NP here. I went back and read OP's original question (who is most likely long gone) which was about getting admitted if you are a full pay applicant. Then I read her subsequent remarks. There is absolutely nowhere does she ask for financial aid and, actually, has appears to be full pay for everything.

How posters turned this around to be an issue about OP applying for financial aid is beyond me. Never was that mentioned by OP but by a few posters.

If you want to make up your own agenda outside of what OP asked about, fine. But to go after this OP for things made up and not even addressed by OP is ridiculous even by DCUM standards.

No, this whole thread would be moot without the FA piece. Otherwise, why would she even bother to ask for any admissions officers here to tell her about the impact of being full pay on admissions chances?

Obviously, OP has a choice to make here, about whether to send in an FA application with the rest of her DD's application/tick off the box for "I will be applying for FA."

The whole point of her question is how this choice will affect her DD's chances of admission at what seems like a selective college.

You seem to have an uncanny ability to see and read between lines. I would like lottery numbers, please.

I've been through the process. I doubt you have. That's probably the difference. But if you want, keep thinking that OP is interested in the impact of being full pay on admissions chances because... because... because... well, you've obviously made up your own motives for OP.

Oh, please. You come off as a blowhard whose business is to second guess everyone who post. And now you know whether or not I've been through the process. You impress only yourself....because....because...well, you're a gas bag.

Oh please. You still haven't explained why you think OP would ask about "full pay" if she wasn't considering something besides full pay. Instead you're insulting people.

Classy! You're the foul-mouthed, gassy blowhard.

Come back when you have a rational explanation for OP's interest in this.

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Anonymous wrote:This is off topic, but relevant to the subject line. We aren't eligible for financial aid, but after finding out that everybody pays a different rate given fa and merit packages, I would feel like a sucker for paying full freight at a 60k private.

Depends on the private.

We pay $60k at a private DD loves and hope we're also helping out a deserving kid in need of aid.

Classy!

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Anonymous wrote:This article about paying for guaranteed admittance is so crazy, I couldn't stop shaking my head in disbelief.

Full pay isn't even a consideration with Think Tank Services. Unbelievable!

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-09-03/college-consultant-thinktank-guarantees-admission-for-hefty-price

Even with all the wealthy paying these exorbitant prices, there are still just so many seats. I'm sure the top colleges are on to this game. Then again, how would they know applicants came through Ma's company?

Even if I had the money, no way would I give anyone $700,000 to secure a seat at any college,. It's not even guaranteed! But different strokes for different folks. When you have millions in disposable income, no big deal.

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Anonymous wrote:This is off topic, but relevant to the subject line. We aren't eligible for financial aid, but after finding out that everybody pays a different rate given fa and merit packages, I would feel like a sucker for paying full freight at a 60k private.

Depends on the private.

We pay $60k at a private DD loves and hope we're also helping out a deserving kid in need of aid.

^^^So true!

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Anonymous wrote:NP here. I went back and read OP's original question (who is most likely long gone) which was about getting admitted if you are a full pay applicant. Then I read her subsequent remarks. There is absolutely nowhere does she ask for financial aid and, actually, has appears to be full pay for everything.

How posters turned this around to be an issue about OP applying for financial aid is beyond me. Never was that mentioned by OP but by a few posters.

If you want to make up your own agenda outside of what OP asked about, fine. But to go after this OP for things made up and not even addressed by OP is ridiculous even by DCUM standards.

No, this whole thread would be moot without the FA piece. Otherwise, why would she even bother to ask for any admissions officers here to tell her about the impact of being full pay on admissions chances?

Obviously, OP has a choice to make here, about whether to send in an FA application with the rest of her DD's application/tick off the box for "I will be applying for FA."

The whole point of her question is how this choice will affect her DD's chances of admission at what seems like a selective college.

You seem to have an uncanny ability to see and read between lines. I would like lottery numbers, please.

I've been through the process. I doubt you have. That's probably the difference. But if you want, keep thinking that OP is interested in the impact of being full pay on admissions chances because... because... because... well, you've obviously made up your own motives for OP.

Oh, please. You come off as a blowhard whose business is to second guess everyone who post. And now you know whether or not I've been through the process. You impress only yourself....because....because...well, you're a gas bag.

+1. Best to just ignore. They hijack threads but eventually get bored and move on.

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Anonymous wrote:NP here. I went back and read OP's original question (who is most likely long gone) which was about getting admitted if you are a full pay applicant. Then I read her subsequent remarks. There is absolutely nowhere does she ask for financial aid and, actually, has appears to be full pay for everything.

How posters turned this around to be an issue about OP applying for financial aid is beyond me. Never was that mentioned by OP but by a few posters.

If you want to make up your own agenda outside of what OP asked about, fine. But to go after this OP for things made up and not even addressed by OP is ridiculous even by DCUM standards.

No, this whole thread would be moot without the FA piece. Otherwise, why would she even bother to ask for any admissions officers here to tell her about the impact of being full pay on admissions chances?

Obviously, OP has a choice to make here, about whether to send in an FA application with the rest of her DD's application/tick off the box for "I will be applying for FA."

The whole point of her question is how this choice will affect her DD's chances of admission at what seems like a selective college.

You seem to have an uncanny ability to see and read between lines. I would like lottery numbers, please.

I've been through the process. I doubt you have. That's probably the difference. But if you want, keep thinking that OP is interested in the impact of being full pay on admissions chances because... because... because... well, you've obviously made up your own motives for OP.

Oh, please. You come off as a blowhard whose business is to second guess everyone who post. And now you know whether or not I've been through the process. You impress only yourself....because....because...well, you're a gas bag.

Anonymous wrote:This is off topic, but relevant to the subject line. We aren't eligible for financial aid, but after finding out that everybody pays a different rate given fa and merit packages, I would feel like a sucker for paying full freight at a 60k private.

Depends on the private.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP here. I went back and read OP's original question (who is most likely long gone) which was about getting admitted if you are a full pay applicant. Then I read her subsequent remarks. There is absolutely nowhere does she ask for financial aid and, actually, has appears to be full pay for everything.

How posters turned this around to be an issue about OP applying for financial aid is beyond me. Never was that mentioned by OP but by a few posters.

If you want to make up your own agenda outside of what OP asked about, fine. But to go after this OP for things made up and not even addressed by OP is ridiculous even by DCUM standards.

No, this whole thread would be moot without the FA piece. Otherwise, why would she even bother to ask for any admissions officers here to tell her about the impact of being full pay on admissions chances?

Obviously, OP has a choice to make here, about whether to send in an FA application with the rest of her DD's application/tick off the box for "I will be applying for FA."

The whole point of her question is how this choice will affect her DD's chances of admission at what seems like a selective college.

You seem to have an uncanny ability to see and read between lines. I would like lottery numbers, please.

I've been through the process. I doubt you have. That's probably the difference. But if you want, keep thinking that OP is interested in the impact of being full pay on admissions chances because... because... because... well, you've obviously made up your own motives for OP.

This is off topic, but relevant to the subject line. We aren't eligible for financial aid, but after finding out that everybody pays a different rate given fa and merit packages, I would feel like a sucker for paying full freight at a 60k private.

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Anonymous wrote:NP here. I went back and read OP's original question (who is most likely long gone) which was about getting admitted if you are a full pay applicant. Then I read her subsequent remarks. There is absolutely nowhere does she ask for financial aid and, actually, has appears to be full pay for everything.

How posters turned this around to be an issue about OP applying for financial aid is beyond me. Never was that mentioned by OP but by a few posters.

If you want to make up your own agenda outside of what OP asked about, fine. But to go after this OP for things made up and not even addressed by OP is ridiculous even by DCUM standards.

No, this whole thread would be moot without the FA piece. Otherwise, why would she even bother to ask for any admissions officers here to tell her about the impact of being full pay on admissions chances?

Obviously, OP has a choice to make here, about whether to send in an FA application with the rest of her DD's application/tick off the box for "I will be applying for FA."

The whole point of her question is how this choice will affect her DD's chances of admission at what seems like a selective college.

You seem to have an uncanny ability to see and read between lines. I would like lottery numbers, please.

Anonymous wrote:NP here. I went back and read OP's original question (who is most likely long gone) which was about getting admitted if you are a full pay applicant. Then I read her subsequent remarks. There is absolutely nowhere does she ask for financial aid and, actually, has appears to be full pay for everything.

How posters turned this around to be an issue about OP applying for financial aid is beyond me. Never was that mentioned by OP but by a few posters.

If you want to make up your own agenda outside of what OP asked about, fine. But to go after this OP for things made up and not even addressed by OP is ridiculous even by DCUM standards.

No, this whole thread would be moot without the FA piece. Otherwise, why would she even bother to ask for any admissions officers here to tell her about the impact of being full pay on admissions chances?

Obviously, OP has a choice to make here, about whether to send in an FA application with the rest of her DD's application/tick off the box for "I will be applying for FA."

The whole point of her question is how this choice will affect her DD's chances of admission at what seems like a selective college.

Anonymous wrote:This article about paying for guaranteed admittance is so crazy, I couldn't stop shaking my head in disbelief.

Full pay isn't even a consideration with Think Tank Services. Unbelievable!

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-09-03/college-consultant-thinktank-guarantees-admission-for-hefty-price

Even with all the wealthy paying these exorbitant prices, there are still just so many seats. I'm sure the top colleges are on to this game. Then again, how would they know applicants came through Ma's company?