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Anonymous wrote:OP, I honestly think you're over thinking this. It was a U10 game and these are 9 year olds. Who cares??? And this was a volunteer ref? Be grateful he stepped up.

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WTF, its soccer! What makes you think they would have scored on that posession? Let it go

Anonymous wrote:OP, I honestly think you're over thinking this. It was a U10 game and these are 9 year olds. Who cares??? And this was a volunteer ref? Be grateful he stepped up.

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Anonymous wrote:the game stops when the time runs out, not when the play is over!

do you actually think that is the rule in soccer?

Ahh...yes. It is in the World Cup and professional leagues overseas.

This is neither world cup nor pro soccer, It's a meaningless kiddie game, so why wouldn't the ref let the play finish?

Wait, wait -- so you're saying the ref should stop a World Cup final, in which it's safe to say they have full use of the field as long as needed, in the middle of a "play," but a U10 ref should just let them play on?

you're either trolling or know nothing about youth soccer. no, same rules of pros don't apply to youth soccer. don't you know they use smaller ball and play on a smaller field? rec especially is about developing love of the sport and player development, and stopping a clear counter attack opportunity is in violation of both.

please don't post stupid comments like that no more.

I coach youth soccer. I've been involved with the game at pro level. (Definitely not as a player -- I stink.)

Pro games have much more leeway with stoppage time than youth games do, for all the reasons mentioned elsewhere in the thread.

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Anonymous wrote:the game stops when the time runs out, not when the play is over!

do you actually think that is the rule in soccer?

Ahh...yes. It is in the World Cup and professional leagues overseas.

This is neither world cup nor pro soccer, It's a meaningless kiddie game, so why wouldn't the ref let the play finish?

Wait, wait -- so you're saying the ref should stop a World Cup final, in which it's safe to say they have full use of the field as long as needed, in the middle of a "play," but a U10 ref should just let them play on?

I know. I was a competitive soccer player who grew up in this area (multiple State, Regional titles with travel, HS State championship, Div 1 college) and NEVER have I heard of not calling the game when the time is up. SOCCER GAMES ARE 90 MIN (1 hour for my u-9).

WTF would you let the play go on and on??? This isn't baseball!!!! The clock runs out, the game is over.

I played for a long time and have coached travel for around a decade. You indicated in your post that your son's team had "intercepted a pass and (was) pushing the ball into the other teams' half in the middle of a counter attack." In that case, with the ball at midfield, I would totally expect the referee to end the match of the stoppage time has expired. If a referee couldn't stop play when the ball was in another team's half the games would never end. In the 18 I would expect play to continue, in the corner or outside the 18, maybe, at the half? No.

You may be confusing stoppage time (to compensate for excessive delays) with "Fergie time", but given that you son likely isn't playing for Manchester united and fergie has retired, you should have no expectation for fergie time.

Traditionally a referee will not blow the whistle to end a half or a game when the play is stopped and a scoring opportunity might easily develop in the next few seconds. Example: corner kick in a tie game or with the kicking team being down a goal. The referee might also allow a play to continue if a goal scoring opportunity might develop within the next few seconds. Example: players fighting for the ball in the penalty area.

Three things to keep in mind -- First: The addition of extra time is up to the referee so if the ref feels that no goal scoring opportunity was going to develop in say the next 5 seconds it is his/her opinion that matters. Second: If the official time is kept on a scoreboard or other than the Center Ref then time will expire when the clock says it expires and the Referee has no control. This is often the scenario with high school games. Three: The playing rules -- typically established by the league or tournament -- may dictate that extra time is not allowed. In that case the referee should keep the time as exact as they can and stop play when it expires regardless of the status of play at the moment The only common extension is for a PK which typically must be completed even if time expires and it has no bearing on the game outcome.

I strongly suspect that for u10s rec/travel there is no provision for stoppage time (and probably expires rule against it). Accordingly the referee would be correct to end the game when time expired regardless of whether a potential goal scoring situation existed.

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Anonymous wrote:the game stops when the time runs out, not when the play is over!

do you actually think that is the rule in soccer?

Ahh...yes. It is in the World Cup and professional leagues overseas.

This is neither world cup nor pro soccer, It's a meaningless kiddie game, so why wouldn't the ref let the play finish?

Wait, wait -- so you're saying the ref should stop a World Cup final, in which it's safe to say they have full use of the field as long as needed, in the middle of a "play," but a U10 ref should just let them play on?

you're either trolling or know nothing about youth soccer. no, same rules of pros don't apply to youth soccer. don't you know they use smaller ball and play on a smaller field? rec especially is about developing love of the sport and player development, and stopping a clear counter attack opportunity is in violation of both.

please don't post stupid comments like that no more.

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Anonymous wrote:the game stops when the time runs out, not when the play is over!

do you actually think that is the rule in soccer?

Ahh...yes. It is in the World Cup and professional leagues overseas.

This is neither world cup nor pro soccer, It's a meaningless kiddie game, so why wouldn't the ref let the play finish?

Wait, wait -- so you're saying the ref should stop a World Cup final, in which it's safe to say they have full use of the field as long as needed, in the middle of a "play," but a U10 ref should just let them play on?

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Anonymous wrote:the game stops when the time runs out, not when the play is over!

do you actually think that is the rule in soccer?

Ahh...yes. It is in the World Cup and professional leagues overseas.

This is neither world cup nor pro soccer, It's a meaningless kiddie game, so why wouldn't the ref let the play finish?

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Anonymous wrote:the game stops when the time runs out, not when the play is over!

do you actually think that is the rule in soccer?

Ahh...yes. It is in the World Cup and professional leagues overseas.

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Anonymous wrote:In all honesty, I cared more than I should have, because I wanted the other team to lose - nothing against the players, plus they don't care anyway - for their coaches behaviors. I know a tie was already a big blow to their egos ("we beat this team 6-3 two weeks ago!!!") but I wanted them to suffer even more for the negativity they exhibited during the game.

I was so ready to write to the league after the game but wanted to know if I was out of line, hence this thread. Now I probably won't do that but it's still quite a disappointment.

Look at home many times you said I in your post. who is the palyer and who is living through their kid

you're wrong. this is NOT about the kids. this is about adult ref/coach's bad behavior and making questionable calls.

your attitude is why you see those jerks at youth games.

Um ... no. The coach's bad behavior is distinct from the stoppage time issue. The coach didn't make the ref blow the whistle.

And that coach is responsible for the coach's behavior. Not people telling you to let it go when the ref blows the whistle just when you think you have a bit of momentum.

the ref is a parent of the other team. i wouldn't have 'obsessed' over this had the coach not acted like a jerk and two had he not blown the whistle right after his team's turnover when our 'little Ronaldo' who scored his 3rd goal to tie the game minutes before took control of the ball in their half and was in the clear of a possible scoring drive. you want to tell me the time happened to run out when his kid's team lost the possession and the last chance to win the game? fat chance i'd believe that.

but yes i should and will get over it, plus the season will be over this weekend. since they're undefeated in the division and we're one of the bottom feeders, i hope we'll be put in different divisions next season so our kids never have to endure these characters again. they played this team twice this season. brutal.

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Anonymous wrote:In all honesty, I cared more than I should have, because I wanted the other team to lose - nothing against the players, plus they don't care anyway - for their coaches behaviors. I know a tie was already a big blow to their egos ("we beat this team 6-3 two weeks ago!!!") but I wanted them to suffer even more for the negativity they exhibited during the game.

I was so ready to write to the league after the game but wanted to know if I was out of line, hence this thread. Now I probably won't do that but it's still quite a disappointment.

Look at home many times you said I in your post. who is the palyer and who is living through their kid

you're wrong. this is NOT about the kids. this is about adult ref/coach's bad behavior and making questionable calls.

your attitude is why you see those jerks at youth games.

Quite honestly, I think parents who obsess over the results of a child's game are part of the problem with youth sports.

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Anonymous wrote:In all honesty, I cared more than I should have, because I wanted the other team to lose - nothing against the players, plus they don't care anyway - for their coaches behaviors. I know a tie was already a big blow to their egos ("we beat this team 6-3 two weeks ago!!!") but I wanted them to suffer even more for the negativity they exhibited during the game.

I was so ready to write to the league after the game but wanted to know if I was out of line, hence this thread. Now I probably won't do that but it's still quite a disappointment.

Look at home many times you said I in your post. who is the palyer and who is living through their kid

you're wrong. this is NOT about the kids. this is about adult ref/coach's bad behavior and making questionable calls.

your attitude is why you see those jerks at youth games.

Um ... no. The coach's bad behavior is distinct from the stoppage time issue. The coach didn't make the ref blow the whistle.

And that coach is responsible for the coach's behavior. Not people telling you to let it go when the ref blows the whistle just when you think you have a bit of momentum.

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Anonymous wrote:In all honesty, I cared more than I should have, because I wanted the other team to lose - nothing against the players, plus they don't care anyway - for their coaches behaviors. I know a tie was already a big blow to their egos ("we beat this team 6-3 two weeks ago!!!") but I wanted them to suffer even more for the negativity they exhibited during the game.

I was so ready to write to the league after the game but wanted to know if I was out of line, hence this thread. Now I probably won't do that but it's still quite a disappointment.

Look at home many times you said I in your post. who is the palyer and who is living through their kid

you're wrong. this is NOT about the kids. this is about adult ref/coach's bad behavior and making questionable calls.

your attitude is why you see those jerks at youth games.

Seriously, just let it go, I'm sure the kids haven't given it another thought. It's nine year old soccer, surely you have something more important in your life to obsess over.