Anonymous
10/25/2014 13:47
Subject: Re:third grader reads at T - but in middle reading group
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP How many third grad classes are in your child's school?
It could be that the children have been grouped by reading level. All the highest readers in the grade were grouped together in your child's class, and that's why ever an above grade level reader would be reading at the middle of the group.
there are 5 classes. the kids in dc's class do seem bright (beyond just reading) and instruction takes place at a high level. i don't know what standard 3rd grade instruction looks like so i can't comment accurately. very likely that this is why there are so many kids at a higher level. i can't help but be pleased that dd is surrounded by such smart peers.
Is this Woodlin?
Anonymous
10/25/2014 08:10
Subject: Re:third grader reads at T - but in middle reading group
Anonymous wrote:OP How many third grad classes are in your child's school?
It could be that the children have been grouped by reading level. All the highest readers in the grade were grouped together in your child's class, and that's why ever an above grade level reader would be reading at the middle of the group.
there are 5 classes. the kids in dc's class do seem bright (beyond just reading) and instruction takes place at a high level. i don't know what standard 3rd grade instruction looks like so i can't comment accurately. very likely that this is why there are so many kids at a higher level. i can't help but be pleased that dd is surrounded by such smart peers.
Anonymous
10/25/2014 07:39
Subject: Re:third grader reads at T - but in middle reading group
OP How many third grad classes are in your child's school?
It could be that the children have been grouped by reading level. All the highest readers in the grade were grouped together in your child's class, and that's why ever an above grade level reader would be reading at the middle of the group.
It could be that the children have been grouped by reading level. All the highest readers in the grade were grouped together in your child's class, and that's why ever an above grade level reader would be reading at the middle of the group.
Anonymous
10/24/2014 21:21
Subject: Re:third grader reads at T - but in middle reading group
Anonymous wrote:To 20:26, doesn't that make you wonder about the subjectivity of the assessments? If I wanted to play devil's asvocate, I would say that the HGc teachers are primed to assume the kids they are assessing can do more than a teacher in a regular 4th grade class - and conversing the teachers assessing in he regular 4th grade classes are not starting with that assumption and the top reading group in my kids' regular 4th grade classes are not at Z. I know there could be other legitimate reasons for why the reading groups in your child's HGC classes are all at Z (e.g., maybe they were all artificially held back by the reading groups in the regular class), but it does make you wonder.
I understand what you are saying but it's great. There are no reading groups (no wasted time bc the whole class reads one book) and no time wasted on testing. All of the students are able to handle the work so it's all good.
Anonymous
10/24/2014 21:15
Subject: Re:third grader reads at T - but in middle reading group
Wow. My 3rd grader is reading Ralph Mouse.
Anonymous
10/24/2014 20:48
Subject: Re:third grader reads at T - but in middle reading group
To 20:26, doesn't that make you wonder about the subjectivity of the assessments? If I wanted to play devil's asvocate, I would say that the HGc teachers are primed to assume the kids they are assessing can do more than a teacher in a regular 4th grade class - and conversing the teachers assessing in he regular 4th grade classes are not starting with that assumption and the top reading group in my kids' regular 4th grade classes are not at Z. I know there could be other legitimate reasons for why the reading groups in your child's HGC classes are all at Z (e.g., maybe they were all artificially held back by the reading groups in the regular class), but it does make you wonder.
Anonymous
10/24/2014 20:48
Subject: third grader reads at T - but in middle reading group
At our HGC they did not use leveled reading anymore. Kids could choose from several books offered. They gave the lexile level so the kids could know what they were choosing.
Anonymous
10/24/2014 20:42
Subject: Re:third grader reads at T - but in middle reading group
Because all the kids in the group are reading the same book - there were 3 classes - I have twins which meant I knew with certainty a out the top reading group in 2 of those classes - and a good friend's child who is probably the smartest kid in the grade was in the third class. Not sure why I am wasting time on all of this as my kids are not even in 3rd grade any longer 
Anonymous
10/24/2014 20:35
Subject: Re:third grader reads at T - but in middle reading group
How are you getting all of this information about what the other reading groups are doing? I got info about my own kid, that's it.
Anonymous
10/24/2014 20:26
Subject: Re:third grader reads at T - but in middle reading group
Anonymous wrote:I'm a prior poster. There was not one reading group in my child's grade (3) that ended the year at Z. Yet 10 kids went onto an HGC.
There wasn't in my child's 3rd grade class either- and 4 were admitted to HGC. But in his actual HGC class when they tested at the beginning of 4th they were all at Z.
Anonymous
10/24/2014 19:23
Subject: third grader reads at T - but in middle reading group
What did they end at?
Anonymous
10/24/2014 19:19
Subject: Re:third grader reads at T - but in middle reading group
I'm a prior poster. There was not one reading group in my child's grade (3) that ended the year at Z. Yet 10 kids went onto an HGC.
Anonymous
10/24/2014 17:58
Subject: third grader reads at T - but in middle reading group
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They test up to level z while in elementary school. But once they reach z they do not reevaluate.
They do at our school. My daughter capped at Z last year in 4th but they still re-evaluate each year. Teachers know how to push those at the top. There are always advanced skills to be taught.
PP here. I wa basing this on my child who is at an HGC. In the HGC all students were tested at beginning of 4th and all were at level Z. They did not test after that. There is nothing after Z though they still take MAPR.
Anonymous
10/24/2014 17:31
Subject: third grader reads at T - but in middle reading group
Anonymous wrote:They test up to level z while in elementary school. But once they reach z they do not reevaluate.
They do at our school. My daughter capped at Z last year in 4th but they still re-evaluate each year. Teachers know how to push those at the top. There are always advanced skills to be taught.
Anonymous
10/24/2014 17:27
Subject: third grader reads at T - but in middle reading group
Anonymous wrote:My third grader reads at level T which I always thought made her a strong reader. After volunteering in class yesterday I found out that she is in the middle (3rd from the top) reading group. I would have understood that there were a few brilliant outliers in every class - but 2 reading groups worth of kids reading middle school level books? MCPS is truly Lake Woebegone
the horror!
Get some new blades for your chopper, honey, and fly off.