Anonymous
Post 10/06/2014 20:51     Subject: Re:First case of Ebola acquired in Europe
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Better ban all travel from Spain.


She got it from 2 people that had been in West Africa. I kept telling everyone this was going to spread like wild-fire and nobody believes me. I worked in the Reston "Ebola" lab in the 90s. Everything we learned in graduate school was that if this thing made it to US/Europe--given the close contacts and close proximity, long incubation times---it is going to be a nightmare. It was always the 'worst case' prediction in my virology courses. It used to burn out in the Congo because it would kill an entire village and it was miles and miles for anyone to walk to the next one so it would die out. The very thing that makes it so virulent and less of a threat in those areas for 'burning itself out' won't happen in our global population.


+1000
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2014 20:47     Subject: Re:First case of Ebola acquired in Europe
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And the nurse in Spain had symptoms for 5 days before she was hospitalized. What is wrong with people!


Well, wait. Her only symptom was fever, and she was in full protective gear the one time she encountered an Ebola patient. According to all the DCUM know-it-alls, that means it's impossible she would get it. Right? I mean, we'd have to be vomited on by someone with an active infection to get it. Right?
Except, no, apparently.


No one else in Spain has it (yet, knock on wood). So perhaps some people are especially susceptible, or perhaps the priest or she somehow violated protocol. If they are all lying to you, wouldn't more of the Spanish medical team, as well as the American medical teams who have treated the various Americans here, have been infected?
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2014 20:46     Subject: Re:First case of Ebola acquired in Europe
OK. The pres just announced that the US will be ramping up screening at airports. No specifics yet. He also strongly criticized other countries for not doing their part. I support him on both counts.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2014 20:41     Subject: Re:First case of Ebola acquired in Europe
Well other African nations have banned travel from Sierra Leone and Liberia. We should be doing something besides laying down the welcome mat for Ebola. At least quarantine if not travel ban. Anything less is a major fail.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2014 20:40     Subject: Re:First case of Ebola acquired in Europe
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And the nurse in Spain had symptoms for 5 days before she was hospitalized. What is wrong with people!


Well, wait. Her only symptom was fever, and she was in full protective gear the one time she encountered an Ebola patient. According to all the DCUM know-it-alls, that means it's impossible she would get it. Right? I mean, we'd have to be vomited on by someone with an active infection to get it. Right?
Except, no, apparently.


Our govt needs to cool it with the talking points and canned rejoinders and start listening to other viewpoints.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2014 20:25     Subject: Re:First case of Ebola acquired in Europe
Anonymous wrote:Sierra Leone just reported 121 deaths in one day and many new cases. It was the deadliest day yet. Things seems to be getting worse rather than better. This outbreak started in March and has been spreading. Without quarantines it will continue.


I agree. I can't understand how anyone with a brain doesn't see this as something we need to protect against.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2014 20:24     Subject: Re:First case of Ebola acquired in Europe
Anonymous wrote:And the nurse in Spain had symptoms for 5 days before she was hospitalized. What is wrong with people!


Well, wait. Her only symptom was fever, and she was in full protective gear the one time she encountered an Ebola patient. According to all the DCUM know-it-alls, that means it's impossible she would get it. Right? I mean, we'd have to be vomited on by someone with an active infection to get it. Right?
Except, no, apparently.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2014 20:16     Subject: Re:First case of Ebola acquired in Europe
Sierra Leone just reported 121 deaths in one day and many new cases. It was the deadliest day yet. Things seems to be getting worse rather than better. This outbreak started in March and has been spreading. Without quarantines it will continue.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2014 20:08     Subject: Re:First case of Ebola acquired in Europe
This will be like the 1918 flu before its done...

No vaccine, no meds to treat it and highly contagious.

We can barely handle 1 case.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2014 19:57     Subject: Re:First case of Ebola acquired in Europe
And the nurse in Spain had symptoms for 5 days before she was hospitalized. What is wrong with people!
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2014 19:18     Subject: First case of Ebola acquired in Europe
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A hospital employee filed a complain about the way they were handling contact with the patient and the lack of precautions taken.

Not surprised at all.

Spain is different


Sounds like there could have been a competence problem there too, kind of like in Texas.


So there will be more sick with it.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2014 18:55     Subject: Re:First case of Ebola acquired in Europe
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She was probably in full hazmat gear yet still got the virus.


Probably. But maybe not. Several of the American doctors admitted to lapses.


God bless them. They were working with Ebola patients in full suits, and then working with non-diagnosed patients in the rest of the hospital without suits. Some of those patients had Ebola.


The nurse in Spain was only working with two known Ebola patients yet she still got it.


The jokes the pther pps are thriwing around is how you know this will spread. Grasshoppers to a few ants
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2014 18:23     Subject: First case of Ebola acquired in Europe
Anonymous wrote:A hospital employee filed a complain about the way they were handling contact with the patient and the lack of precautions taken.

Not surprised at all.

Spain is different


Sounds like there could have been a competence problem there too, kind of like in Texas.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2014 18:18     Subject: First case of Ebola acquired in Europe
Anonymous wrote:A hospital employee filed a complain about the way they were handling contact with the patient and the lack of precautions taken.

Not surprised at all.

Spain is different


At some point we will have to stop saying everyone else is different.

This is highly contagious and virulent stuff.

It will happen here. Mark my words. I studied this for my thesis.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2014 18:08     Subject: Re:First case of Ebola acquired in Europe

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/spanish-nurse

The elderly priest, Manuel Garcia Viejo, was treated in Madrid's Carlos III hospital, where he had been in quarantine since his return from Africa. He died on Sept. 25. The nurse entered the priest's room twice: Once to treat him and once upon his death, to recover his belongings, officials said. She began showing signs of illness on Sept. 30 and sought treatment, they said.


The nurse only had contact with the patient one time.