Anonymous
Post 09/28/2014 08:29     Subject: University of Pennsylvania
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I notice UPenn and Penn State students refer to their respective schools as 'Penn.' How do they differentiate the two without referring to location? I hear students say 'I'm heading to Penn.' Does one just ask which one?


Wrong. Penn State is Penn State. Both schools have strong identities for better (and worse) and the confusion factor isn't very high. If someone says they went to Penn, it can only mean the Philly Ivy school. No one at Penn calls it UPenn. And I've never heard anyone calls Penn State anything other than Penn State.


This. Never heard anyone say UPenn till I left Philaphia.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2014 08:05     Subject: University of Pennsylvania
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I notice UPenn and Penn State students refer to their respective schools as 'Penn.' How do they differentiate the two without referring to location? I hear students say 'I'm heading to Penn.' Does one just ask which one?


Wrong. Penn State is Penn State. Both schools have strong identities for better (and worse) and the confusion factor isn't very high. If someone says they went to Penn, it can only mean the Philly Ivy school. No one at Penn calls it UPenn. And I've never heard anyone calls Penn State anything other than Penn State.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2014 07:49     Subject: Re:University of Pennsylvania
Seems like lots of focus on Wharton etc. and "pre" professional stuff....I have a DD who is dead set on going to law school. Why? I don't know but it is what it is...she's not changing her mind and will apply ED. So, can one conclude all things considered Penn would be a fit?
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2014 07:45     Subject: University of Pennsylvania
OP here. I notice UPenn and Penn State students refer to their respective schools as 'Penn.' How do they differentiate the two without referring to location? I hear students say 'I'm heading to Penn.' Does one just ask which one?
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2014 07:24     Subject: University of Pennsylvania
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What about engineering without a business double major? What's the engineering program like? Hard to believe it is worth the price tag over a flagship state school. (And we have Penn people in our family.)


Access to choice firms/jobs is better and it is smaller than a state school so less kids fighting over resources.

And you don't 'close off avenues' - i.e. a state school engineering student who decides senior year he wants to become a consultant or trader or work at a tech-focused investment firm would be frozen out of the recruiting pipeline (or would have to really really work hard on their own to break in) whereas an engineering student at penn has these types of companies (along with your typical technology companies) flock onto campus.

It is better to go to a 'target school' than not.

Now certain programs like BME is stronger at places like jhu and duke.

I would say half of penn's engineering students do engineering but really want to work in quantitative finance, business strategy but tech focused, etc.


Depends on which state school you're talking about -- at Michigan or Berkeley, for example, engineering majors have many options open to them.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2014 21:21     Subject: University of Pennsylvania
http://insightpartners.com/

that's a type of firm that penn engineers and wharton students dream about working post graduation.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2014 21:07     Subject: University of Pennsylvania
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What about engineering without a business double major? What's the engineering program like? Hard to believe it is worth the price tag over a flagship state school. (And we have Penn people in our family.)


Access to choice firms/jobs is better and it is smaller than a state school so less kids fighting over resources.

And you don't 'close off avenues' - i.e. a state school engineering student who decides senior year he wants to become a consultant or trader or work at a tech-focused investment firm would be frozen out of the recruiting pipeline (or would have to really really work hard on their own to break in) whereas an engineering student at penn has these types of companies (along with your typical technology companies) flock onto campus.

It is better to go to a 'target school' than not.

Now certain programs like BME is stronger at places like jhu and duke.

I would say half of penn's engineering students do engineering but really want to work in quantitative finance, business strategy but tech focused, etc.


Thank you for the helpful perspective.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2014 21:01     Subject: University of Pennsylvania
Anonymous wrote:What about engineering without a business double major? What's the engineering program like? Hard to believe it is worth the price tag over a flagship state school. (And we have Penn people in our family.)


Access to choice firms/jobs is better and it is smaller than a state school so less kids fighting over resources.

And you don't 'close off avenues' - i.e. a state school engineering student who decides senior year he wants to become a consultant or trader or work at a tech-focused investment firm would be frozen out of the recruiting pipeline (or would have to really really work hard on their own to break in) whereas an engineering student at penn has these types of companies (along with your typical technology companies) flock onto campus.

It is better to go to a 'target school' than not.

Now certain programs like BME is stronger at places like jhu and duke.

I would say half of penn's engineering students do engineering but really want to work in quantitative finance, business strategy but tech focused, etc.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2014 20:03     Subject: University of Pennsylvania
What about engineering without a business double major? What's the engineering program like? Hard to believe it is worth the price tag over a flagship state school. (And we have Penn people in our family.)
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2014 19:51     Subject: Re:University of Pennsylvania
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2014 19:50     Subject: Re:University of Pennsylvania
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDhf9qwiA34


That is the typical penn student.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/14/fashion/sex-on-campus-she-can-play-that-game-too.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

typical penn culture.

Penn is a great fit for the right type of student, for as many penn lovers there are, there are just as many who hated or were indifferent about their experience there and would've picked a different school.

I just think that if you aren't dead set on certain jobs/industries, there are schools with much better atmospheres that offer better a better lifestyle with similar exit opportunities.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2014 19:38     Subject: University of Pennsylvania
Multiple Penn connections (including myself) and I would absolutely let my child go there for any major. Penn has extremely strong grad schools outside of Wharton, and the opportunities you can get as an undergrad because of that are amazing. I loved it and hope my kids will someday go there as well.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2014 19:38     Subject: Re:University of Pennsylvania
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Multiple Penn family connections. I'd let my kid go to Wharton undergrad but for absolutely nothing else.


Why do you say that? I'm a Wharton grad who is very pro-Wharton, but I'm not sure that I'd say my kid couldn't go there for anything else.


Not PP but my take is I'd let my child go to wharton or engineering if she wanted to work in anything business or consulting related.

Nursing is excellent but medicine is a field where prestige (esp for undergrad) is not really relevant so SLAC's or state flagships would work just as well.

The reason is because if you are in CAS, it is very easy to get sucked up or made to feel like crap by the wharton and engineering gunners.

Anonymous
Post 09/27/2014 19:33     Subject: University of Pennsylvania
Anonymous wrote:LOL. Booz is definitely not on the radar for most Wharton grads.


PP here - yep.

Perhaps Booz & Co. (well now they're with PwC and have a silly name "Strategy&") so even that's fallen in terms of desirability for wharton grads.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2014 19:28     Subject: Re:University of Pennsylvania
Anonymous wrote:Multiple Penn family connections. I'd let my kid go to Wharton undergrad but for absolutely nothing else.


Why do you say that? I'm a Wharton grad who is very pro-Wharton, but I'm not sure that I'd say my kid couldn't go there for anything else.