Anonymous
Post 09/25/2014 09:25     Subject: Re:The Hannah graham suspect

Anonymous wrote:...It was revealed on Wednesday that Matthew also has a long list of previous charges against him - from assault and grand larceny to trespassing and being in possession of stolen property.

Online court records showed that Matthew was convicted of trespassing in 2010 but provide no details about the incident.

He also faces a slew of traffic violations, according to WSLS.

In June 2009, Matthew allegedly assaulted someone during an attempted theft of a cell phone but the charges were later dropped.


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Yes, cry for him -- the poor pitiful black man.



So that mean's he's a rapist or murderer? Maybe just a common criminal, but not necessarily a psycho.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2014 09:19     Subject: Re:The Hannah graham suspect

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honestly, if this guy was white, I don't think we would be hearing some many speeches about how the police are looking to railroad someone. Something to think about. Frankly, the fact that a few posters seem to think nothing about the rights of the victim but are all a tither if anyone suggests that the suspect has done anything wrong is disturbing.


Totally agree. The PC folks are way out of control on this one. He looks guilty because of his actions!


I wouldn't base his guilt on him fleeing - but hopefully the police have actual evidence which will prove the guilt.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2014 09:17     Subject: Re:The Hannah graham suspect

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honestly, if this guy was white, I don't think we would be hearing some many speeches about how the police are looking to railroad someone. Something to think about. Frankly, the fact that a few posters seem to think nothing about the rights of the victim but are all a tither if anyone suggests that the suspect has done anything wrong is disturbing.


A PP here. I think that a lot of people (White people) in this thread are missing the point that some PP's are trying to make. I do not think that any of us can say definitively whether he is innocent or guilty based on what the police have released so far. What people are trying to say is that his flight is not evidence of guilt to them. In other words, folks are rebutting the whole "innocent people don't flee" premise. What we are saying is that, under certain circumstances, innocent people do flee and we need more facts to say he is absolutely without a doubt guilty.

More than anything, I want peace and closure for HER family.


absolutely - praying they find her alive but even if they don't - I hope they find her for her family's sake so they can have some closure.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2014 09:15     Subject: Re:The Hannah graham suspect

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, if this guy was white, I don't think we would be hearing some many speeches about how the police are looking to railroad someone. Something to think about. Frankly, the fact that a few posters seem to think nothing about the rights of the victim but are all a tither if anyone suggests that the suspect has done anything wrong is disturbing.


A PP here. I think that a lot of people (White people) in this thread are missing the point that some PP's are trying to make. I do not think that any of us can say definitively whether he is innocent or guilty based on what the police have released so far. What people are trying to say is that his flight is not evidence of guilt to them. In other words, folks are rebutting the whole "innocent people don't flee" premise. What we are saying is that, under certain circumstances, innocent people do flee and we need more facts to say he is absolutely without a doubt guilty.

More than anything, I want peace and closure for HER family.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2014 09:13     Subject: Re:The Hannah graham suspect

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honestly, if this guy was white, I don't think we would be hearing some many speeches about how the police are looking to railroad someone. Something to think about. Frankly, the fact that a few posters seem to think nothing about the rights of the victim but are all a tither if anyone suggests that the suspect has done anything wrong is disturbing.


Totally agree. The PC folks are way out of control on this one. He looks guilty because of his actions!


and these are the people who will be on the jury. yikes.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2014 09:12     Subject: Re:The Hannah graham suspect

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, if this guy was white, I don't think we would be hearing some many speeches about how the police are looking to railroad someone. Something to think about. Frankly, the fact that a few posters seem to think nothing about the rights of the victim but are all a tither if anyone suggests that the suspect has done anything wrong is disturbing.


I actually don't think anyone is saying the police are trying to "railroad" him. Just that justice does not always work in the favor of people of color (irregardless of guilt).
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2014 09:11     Subject: Re:The Hannah graham suspect

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, if this guy was white, I don't think we would be hearing some many speeches about how the police are looking to railroad someone. Something to think about. Frankly, the fact that a few posters seem to think nothing about the rights of the victim but are all a tither if anyone suggests that the suspect has done anything wrong is disturbing.


Totally agree. The PC folks are way out of control on this one. He looks guilty because of his actions!
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2014 09:11     Subject: The Hannah graham suspect

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Innocent people don't run from the police during an attempted traffic stop and then disappear. He is guilty of something. If nothing else, resisting arrest.


But if he's black he knows that the scales of justice will never tip in his favor.


Does the name OJ Simpson mean anything to you?


you mean the one rich black guy who got off? LOL
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2014 09:09     Subject: The Hannah graham suspect

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Innocent people don't run from the police during an attempted traffic stop and then disappear. He is guilty of something. If nothing else, resisting arrest.


But if he's black he knows that the scales of justice will never tip in his favor.


Does the name OJ Simpson mean anything to you?
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2014 09:09     Subject: The Hannah graham suspect

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It does not look good because this is a suspect with a long rap sheet and number of accusations of sexual assault crimes.


I agree with everyone's right to their own opinion, as long as they are based on facts. The above is not that.

From the bottom of this article http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2024621469_apxmissinguvastudent.html :

"Online court records show Matthew was convicted of trespassing in 2010 but provide no details about the incident. Details also were unavailable for two other charges of assault and attempted grand larceny relating to a 2009 incident that were not prosecuted. Matthew, who had a taxi permit from the Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles from 2007 through 2010, also has several traffic infractions, records show."



Actually you don't get to dictate whether people chose to be "fact-based" on not, it's called freedom of speech.


I guess you are right. People do have the right to ignore and mis-state facts.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2014 09:07     Subject: The Hannah graham suspect

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It does not look good because this is a suspect with a long rap sheet and number of accusations of sexual assault crimes.


I agree with everyone's right to their own opinion, as long as they are based on facts. The above is not that.

From the bottom of this article http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2024621469_apxmissinguvastudent.html :

"Online court records show Matthew was convicted of trespassing in 2010 but provide no details about the incident. Details also were unavailable for two other charges of assault and attempted grand larceny relating to a 2009 incident that were not prosecuted. Matthew, who had a taxi permit from the Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles from 2007 through 2010, also has several traffic infractions, records show."



Actually you don't get to dictate whether people chose to be "fact-based" on not, it's called freedom of speech.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2014 09:06     Subject: Re:The Hannah graham suspect

Honestly, if this guy was white, I don't think we would be hearing some many speeches about how the police are looking to railroad someone. Something to think about. Frankly, the fact that a few posters seem to think nothing about the rights of the victim but are all a tither if anyone suggests that the suspect has done anything wrong is disturbing.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2014 09:03     Subject: The Hannah graham suspect

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The evidence they have against him is circumstantial. There is no camera footage of her getting in the car with him. It doesn't take a lot to meet the probable cause evidence test to be able to charge someone. They charged him with that so that they would be able to arrest him and then have him held without bond. The reckless driving charges would not have been enough to keep him held with no bond.

I hope all the people who are assuming he is guilty have to come face to face with the justice system one day and then suddenly remember that in this country we are INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY, and not the other way around.


True, but his ACTIONS lead many to believe that he is guilty of something. Why run if you have nothing to hide?


Because he's a black man on a racist area looking aggressively to close this.

Not saying he's innocent but there's plenty for him to worry about if he's not guilty.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2014 09:02     Subject: The Hannah graham suspect

Anonymous wrote:It does not look good because this is a suspect with a long rap sheet and number of accusations of sexual assault crimes.


I agree with everyone's right to their own opinion, as long as they are based on facts. The above is not that.

From the bottom of this article http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2024621469_apxmissinguvastudent.html :

"Online court records show Matthew was convicted of trespassing in 2010 but provide no details about the incident. Details also were unavailable for two other charges of assault and attempted grand larceny relating to a 2009 incident that were not prosecuted. Matthew, who had a taxi permit from the Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles from 2007 through 2010, also has several traffic infractions, records show."

Anonymous
Post 09/25/2014 09:00     Subject: The Hannah graham suspect

Anonymous wrote:It does not look good because this is a suspect with a long rap sheet and number of accusations of sexual assault crimes.


I agree - but I don't believe they can present those past offenses at a trial. but the media has already put that info out there though - so that leads to the question of whether he can get a fair trial