Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Simple: Teenage boys are driven by hormones. They will say anything and to anything to get off. Be careful.
When people say this, they are basically saying, "Teenage boys are potential rapists who think of girls as a collection of body parts."
PP here. I am male. I know this typical. I am not saying they are Rapists/Potential Rapists, but they will pressure for sex....there is a difference. The message is not that men are rapists, it is that hormones are powerful.
If you do not believe that, you have never been a teenage boy.
What is the difference? If you're willing to "pressure for sex", you don't particularly care whether or not your partner truly consents. And what is sex without consent?
Anonymous wrote:I think girls and boys have to be taught HOW to say no, not just that they can/should say no. It is not just about the words, and they need to know what to do when the words don't work. I wish more movies would show the action-stopping action to help get the message across.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I love how mothers know what the teen male mind is thinking....
I have never been a male teenager. However, I would not assume that all male teenagers think the same thing. Also, I do know what some male teenagers do -- specifically, the many male teenagers I have known, in my life. Have all male teenagers I have known in my life pressured girls to have sex and said and done anything to get off? No, they haven't. In fact, many of them have explicitly not done this.
Which is a good thing, because people who pressure people to have sex and say and do anything to get off are, at best, potential rapists. At worst, they are actual rapists.
There is pressure, and there is pressure. The pressure I am talking about is progressing until the girl gives some indication that it is too far, either through physical actions (moving the hand), or by saying no. That is neither a rapist nor a potential rapist. And it is quite common.
Right or wrong, that is the reality. I want my daughter to understand that. The safest thing to do is to define what you will do -- in your mind -- and stick with it and communicate it (at the appropriate time).
I hope that you want your son to understand that too, if you have one.
The model where the boy keeps going until the girl says no is bad, wrong, and dangerous. Boys and girls both need to know that consent means saying or demonstrating yes; not saying no does not constitute consent. Girls need to know that it's ok to say or demonstrate yes, if that's how they feel. And boys need to know that it's ok to say or demonstrate no, if that's how they feel.
I do not have a son. If I did, the advice would be to not pressure -- safest thing to do is to enjoy the person. Focus on communication; talking, laughing...fun.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I love how mothers know what the teen male mind is thinking....
I have never been a male teenager. However, I would not assume that all male teenagers think the same thing. Also, I do know what some male teenagers do -- specifically, the many male teenagers I have known, in my life. Have all male teenagers I have known in my life pressured girls to have sex and said and done anything to get off? No, they haven't. In fact, many of them have explicitly not done this.
Which is a good thing, because people who pressure people to have sex and say and do anything to get off are, at best, potential rapists. At worst, they are actual rapists.
There is pressure, and there is pressure. The pressure I am talking about is progressing until the girl gives some indication that it is too far, either through physical actions (moving the hand), or by saying no. That is neither a rapist nor a potential rapist. And it is quite common.
Right or wrong, that is the reality. I want my daughter to understand that. The safest thing to do is to define what you will do -- in your mind -- and stick with it and communicate it (at the appropriate time).
I hope that you want your son to understand that too, if you have one.
The model where the boy keeps going until the girl says no is bad, wrong, and dangerous. Boys and girls both need to know that consent means saying or demonstrating yes; not saying no does not constitute consent. Girls need to know that it's ok to say or demonstrate yes, if that's how they feel. And boys need to know that it's ok to say or demonstrate no, if that's how they feel.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I love how mothers know what the teen male mind is thinking....
I have never been a male teenager. However, I would not assume that all male teenagers think the same thing. Also, I do know what some male teenagers do -- specifically, the many male teenagers I have known, in my life. Have all male teenagers I have known in my life pressured girls to have sex and said and done anything to get off? No, they haven't. In fact, many of them have explicitly not done this.
Which is a good thing, because people who pressure people to have sex and say and do anything to get off are, at best, potential rapists. At worst, they are actual rapists.
There is pressure, and there is pressure. The pressure I am talking about is progressing until the girl gives some indication that it is too far, either through physical actions (moving the hand), or by saying no. That is neither a rapist nor a potential rapist. And it is quite common.
Right or wrong, that is the reality. I want my daughter to understand that. The safest thing to do is to define what you will do -- in your mind -- and stick with it and communicate it (at the appropriate time).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I love how mothers know what the teen male mind is thinking....
I have never been a male teenager. However, I would not assume that all male teenagers think the same thing. Also, I do know what some male teenagers do -- specifically, the many male teenagers I have known, in my life. Have all male teenagers I have known in my life pressured girls to have sex and said and done anything to get off? No, they haven't. In fact, many of them have explicitly not done this.
Which is a good thing, because people who pressure people to have sex and say and do anything to get off are, at best, potential rapists. At worst, they are actual rapists.
Anonymous wrote:OMG, OP - please don't say anything! My dad totally embarrassed me at that age ... told me I should speak with him if I needed contraception, etc. I was years off needing that talk.
Just be open and friendly to her and her friends - boys included. Don't embarrass her!!!
Anonymous wrote:I love how mothers know what the teen male mind is thinking....
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Simple: Teenage boys are driven by hormones. They will say anything and to anything to get off. Be careful.
When people say this, they are basically saying, "Teenage boys are potential rapists who think of girls as a collection of body parts."
PP here. I am male. I know this typical. I am not saying they are Rapists/Potential Rapists, but they will pressure for sex....there is a difference. The message is not that men are rapists, it is that hormones are powerful.
If you do not believe that, you have never been a teenage boy.