Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm seriously wondering. You know you are raising your kids in a country (world?) where there is skin color discrimination. I'd imagine the AAs reading on here are well-to-do -- do you teach them that the world should accept diversity and sing kumbaya? Because if I had an AA child -- esp a son -- I would tell him that if the cops stop him and ask him to do anything -- he does it. Even if it's dumb. Even if it accuses him unfairly or whatever. We will deal with "fixing" the situation later -- he just needs to make it out of the situation alive.
Why do so many AA young men have the view that they can and should stand up to the cops? Sure Michael Brown wasn't armed, but many black men of that age group are -- why would any cop give him the benefit of the doubt?? If they told him to get on the sidewalk -- why not get on the damn sidewalk? And why not teach AA boys to dress a bit more respectably instead of embracing the thus culture? I'm guessing someone walking around in jeans with a sports coat is a bit less likely to be harassed than someone in a hoodie.
I am sure DCUM will jump all over me, but I am genuinely curious. I am of a different profiled class and you better believe that at the airport and in gov't buildings -- I am on my best behavior; always carrying ID, polite even if I have to go through another damn security check for no reason, dressed professionally etc. I know my profiled class has created issues for the world -- I don't want to give anyone a reason to have an issue with me. Seems like AAs don't think that way.
REALLY?!We're not a monolithic group! I'm black and I agree with you 100%. I will not elaborate more on this discussion because people who think like me are demonized and called, "sellouts". However, I understand your logic.
REALLLYYY???
People change their BEHAVIOUR and style of dress because they are trying to save their lives!!!!!!
People are tooo damn lazy to realize that not all black or brown people are the same.
So black men often are forced to cater to the twisted logic and assumptions of the lazy mind that cannot tell the difference between a mugger and an MBA because they both have black skin.
Forget you!
If Mark Zuckerberg can wear a hoodie and jeans then my damn husband can too!!!!
Since when did the idea that criminals are the only ones who can wear certain things?!!!!
I guess white men can't wear a mustache because Hitler had one.
I guess white women can't name your white little boys Bernie because folks will assume they will be white collar fraudulent con men criminals.
I guess all the women with vaginas better put those away because the lady around the corner has one and she got raped last week.
Guess white boys cannot be named George and go to UVA and play lacrosse, unless he is a woman beating girlfriend murderer!!
You can go straight to a burning pit of Hades for even suggesting that honest, decent black people have to further minimize themselves, dishonor their own feelings, smile when they don't want to, dress a certain way, step out of their own f$$$$&& selves to make you feel comfortable enough to not assume he is not a nigger.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm seriously wondering. You know you are raising your kids in a country (world?) where there is skin color discrimination. I'd imagine the AAs reading on here are well-to-do -- do you teach them that the world should accept diversity and sing kumbaya? Because if I had an AA child -- esp a son -- I would tell him that if the cops stop him and ask him to do anything -- he does it. Even if it's dumb. Even if it accuses him unfairly or whatever. We will deal with "fixing" the situation later -- he just needs to make it out of the situation alive.
Why do so many AA young men have the view that they can and should stand up to the cops? Sure Michael Brown wasn't armed, but many black men of that age group are -- why would any cop give him the benefit of the doubt?? If they told him to get on the sidewalk -- why not get on the damn sidewalk? And why not teach AA boys to dress a bit more respectably instead of embracing the thus culture? I'm guessing someone walking around in jeans with a sports coat is a bit less likely to be harassed than someone in a hoodie.
I am sure DCUM will jump all over me, but I am genuinely curious. I am of a different profiled class and you better believe that at the airport and in gov't buildings -- I am on my best behavior; always carrying ID, polite even if I have to go through another damn security check for no reason, dressed professionally etc. I know my profiled class has created issues for the world -- I don't want to give anyone a reason to have an issue with me. Seems like AAs don't think that way.
REALLY?!We're not a monolithic group! I'm black and I agree with you 100%. I will not elaborate more on this discussion because people who think like me are demonized and called, "sellouts". However, I understand your logic.
REALLLYYY???
People change their BEHAVIOUR and style of dress because they are trying to save their lives!!!!!!
People are tooo damn lazy to realize that not all black or brown people are the same.
So black men often are forced to cater to the twisted logic and assumptions of the lazy mind that cannot tell the difference between a mugger and an MBA because they both have black skin.
Forget you!
If Mark Zuckerberg can wear a hoodie and jeans then my damn husband can too!!!!
Since when did the idea that criminals are the only ones who can wear certain things?!!!!
I guess white men can't wear a mustache because Hitler had one.
I guess white women can't name your white little boys Bernie because folks will assume they will be white collar fraudulent con men criminals.
I guess all the women with vaginas better put those away because the lady around the corner has one and she got raped last week.
Guess white boys cannot be named George and go to UVA and play lacrosse, unless he is a woman beating girlfriend murderer!!
You can go straight to a burning pit of Hades for even suggesting that honest, decent black people have to further minimize themselves, dishonor their own feelings, smile when they don't want to, dress a certain way, step out of their own f$$$$&& selves to make you feel comfortable enough to not assume he is not a nigger.
NP here -- This sums up everything that I think of AAs -- this is the sum total of why they as a race (doesn't matter if this lady is a millionaire) cannot get ahead. Too much anger. Too much of -- I am who I am. Too much concern about respect. Too much crying about unfairness.
+10000
How dare they expect to be treated with respect.
Stop cry in' and just be happy to go on niggerin'
+1. All kinds of immigrants from impoverished places have come to the US and made a life for themselves, yet AAs as a community can't figure it out. These are immigrants who often don't speak English, don't come from educated families, come here with just a few suitcases -- and yes quite often are black so they face skin color discrimination also.
Fool you just agreed with a smartass remark that was making of of the kind of dumb behind logic and commentary exemifiedvin your post.
SMH!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm seriously wondering. You know you are raising your kids in a country (world?) where there is skin color discrimination. I'd imagine the AAs reading on here are well-to-do -- do you teach them that the world should accept diversity and sing kumbaya? Because if I had an AA child -- esp a son -- I would tell him that if the cops stop him and ask him to do anything -- he does it. Even if it's dumb. Even if it accuses him unfairly or whatever. We will deal with "fixing" the situation later -- he just needs to make it out of the situation alive.
Why do so many AA young men have the view that they can and should stand up to the cops? Sure Michael Brown wasn't armed, but many black men of that age group are -- why would any cop give him the benefit of the doubt?? If they told him to get on the sidewalk -- why not get on the damn sidewalk? And why not teach AA boys to dress a bit more respectably instead of embracing the thus culture? I'm guessing someone walking around in jeans with a sports coat is a bit less likely to be harassed than someone in a hoodie.
I am sure DCUM will jump all over me, but I am genuinely curious. I am of a different profiled class and you better believe that at the airport and in gov't buildings -- I am on my best behavior; always carrying ID, polite even if I have to go through another damn security check for no reason, dressed professionally etc. I know my profiled class has created issues for the world -- I don't want to give anyone a reason to have an issue with me. Seems like AAs don't think that way.
REALLY?!We're not a monolithic group! I'm black and I agree with you 100%. I will not elaborate more on this discussion because people who think like me are demonized and called, "sellouts". However, I understand your logic.
REALLLYYY???
People change their BEHAVIOUR and style of dress because they are trying to save their lives!!!!!!
People are tooo damn lazy to realize that not all black or brown people are the same.
So black men often are forced to cater to the twisted logic and assumptions of the lazy mind that cannot tell the difference between a mugger and an MBA because they both have black skin.
Forget you!
If Mark Zuckerberg can wear a hoodie and jeans then my damn husband can too!!!!
Since when did the idea that criminals are the only ones who can wear certain things?!!!!
I guess white men can't wear a mustache because Hitler had one.
I guess white women can't name your white little boys Bernie because folks will assume they will be white collar fraudulent con men criminals.
I guess all the women with vaginas better put those away because the lady around the corner has one and she got raped last week.
Guess white boys cannot be named George and go to UVA and play lacrosse, unless he is a woman beating girlfriend murderer!!
You can go straight to a burning pit of Hades for even suggesting that honest, decent black people have to further minimize themselves, dishonor their own feelings, smile when they don't want to, dress a certain way, step out of their own f$$$$&& selves to make you feel comfortable enough to not assume he is not a nigger.
NP here -- This sums up everything that I think of AAs -- this is the sum total of why they as a race (doesn't matter if this lady is a millionaire) cannot get ahead. Too much anger. Too much of -- I am who I am. Too much concern about respect. Too much crying about unfairness.
+10000
How dare they expect to be treated with respect.
Stop cry in' and just be happy to go on niggerin'
+1. All kinds of immigrants from impoverished places have come to the US and made a life for themselves, yet AAs as a community can't figure it out. These are immigrants who often don't speak English, don't come from educated families, come here with just a few suitcases -- and yes quite often are black so they face skin color discrimination also.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm seriously wondering. You know you are raising your kids in a country (world?) where there is skin color discrimination. I'd imagine the AAs reading on here are well-to-do -- do you teach them that the world should accept diversity and sing kumbaya? Because if I had an AA child -- esp a son -- I would tell him that if the cops stop him and ask him to do anything -- he does it. Even if it's dumb. Even if it accuses him unfairly or whatever. We will deal with "fixing" the situation later -- he just needs to make it out of the situation alive.
Why do so many AA young men have the view that they can and should stand up to the cops? Sure Michael Brown wasn't armed, but many black men of that age group are -- why would any cop give him the benefit of the doubt?? If they told him to get on the sidewalk -- why not get on the damn sidewalk? And why not teach AA boys to dress a bit more respectably instead of embracing the thus culture? I'm guessing someone walking around in jeans with a sports coat is a bit less likely to be harassed than someone in a hoodie.
I am sure DCUM will jump all over me, but I am genuinely curious. I am of a different profiled class and you better believe that at the airport and in gov't buildings -- I am on my best behavior; always carrying ID, polite even if I have to go through another damn security check for no reason, dressed professionally etc. I know my profiled class has created issues for the world -- I don't want to give anyone a reason to have an issue with me. Seems like AAs don't think that way.
REALLY?!We're not a monolithic group! I'm black and I agree with you 100%. I will not elaborate more on this discussion because people who think like me are demonized and called, "sellouts". However, I understand your logic.
REALLLYYY???
People change their BEHAVIOUR and style of dress because they are trying to save their lives!!!!!!
People are tooo damn lazy to realize that not all black or brown people are the same.
So black men often are forced to cater to the twisted logic and assumptions of the lazy mind that cannot tell the difference between a mugger and an MBA because they both have black skin.
Forget you!
If Mark Zuckerberg can wear a hoodie and jeans then my damn husband can too!!!!
Since when did the idea that criminals are the only ones who can wear certain things?!!!!
I guess white men can't wear a mustache because Hitler had one.
I guess white women can't name your white little boys Bernie because folks will assume they will be white collar fraudulent con men criminals.
I guess all the women with vaginas better put those away because the lady around the corner has one and she got raped last week.
Guess white boys cannot be named George and go to UVA and play lacrosse, unless he is a woman beating girlfriend murderer!!
You can go straight to a burning pit of Hades for even suggesting that honest, decent black people have to further minimize themselves, dishonor their own feelings, smile when they don't want to, dress a certain way, step out of their own f$$$$&& selves to make you feel comfortable enough to not assume he is not a nigger.
NP here -- This sums up everything that I think of AAs -- this is the sum total of why they as a race (doesn't matter if this lady is a millionaire) cannot get ahead. Too much anger. Too much of -- I am who I am. Too much concern about respect. Too much crying about unfairness.
+10000
How dare they expect to be treated with respect.
Stop cry in' and just be happy to go on niggerin'
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it's called the window effect theory, where we believe things to be true by what we see. When we watch tv we see the what the bad guys look like from the news from prison shows whatever. When we see someone that wears the same clothes, talks like them and carries themselves the way they do, then peoples protective instincts go off. This is true for any race.
I am white and I will explain to my kids what was explained to me. The cops are they if you need help - ask. If you are being questioned or in trouble BE RESPECTFUL.
So what happens when the respect still earns them a bullet?
How do we know that he was being respectful or talking shit?? We don't. Or the cop was a racist ass? We don't.
Rhetorical question Einstein.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm seriously wondering. You know you are raising your kids in a country (world?) where there is skin color discrimination. I'd imagine the AAs reading on here are well-to-do -- do you teach them that the world should accept diversity and sing kumbaya? Because if I had an AA child -- esp a son -- I would tell him that if the cops stop him and ask him to do anything -- he does it. Even if it's dumb. Even if it accuses him unfairly or whatever. We will deal with "fixing" the situation later -- he just needs to make it out of the situation alive.
Why do so many AA young men have the view that they can and should stand up to the cops? Sure Michael Brown wasn't armed, but many black men of that age group are -- why would any cop give him the benefit of the doubt?? If they told him to get on the sidewalk -- why not get on the damn sidewalk? And why not teach AA boys to dress a bit more respectably instead of embracing the thus culture? I'm guessing someone walking around in jeans with a sports coat is a bit less likely to be harassed than someone in a hoodie.
I am sure DCUM will jump all over me, but I am genuinely curious. I am of a different profiled class and you better believe that at the airport and in gov't buildings -- I am on my best behavior; always carrying ID, polite even if I have to go through another damn security check for no reason, dressed professionally etc. I know my profiled class has created issues for the world -- I don't want to give anyone a reason to have an issue with me. Seems like AAs don't think that way.
REALLY?!We're not a monolithic group! I'm black and I agree with you 100%. I will not elaborate more on this discussion because people who think like me are demonized and called, "sellouts". However, I understand your logic.
REALLLYYY???
People change their BEHAVIOUR and style of dress because they are trying to save their lives!!!!!!
People are tooo damn lazy to realize that not all black or brown people are the same.
So black men often are forced to cater to the twisted logic and assumptions of the lazy mind that cannot tell the difference between a mugger and an MBA because they both have black skin.
Forget you!
If Mark Zuckerberg can wear a hoodie and jeans then my damn husband can too!!!!
Since when did the idea that criminals are the only ones who can wear certain things?!!!!
I guess white men can't wear a mustache because Hitler had one.
I guess white women can't name your white little boys Bernie because folks will assume they will be white collar fraudulent con men criminals.
I guess all the women with vaginas better put those away because the lady around the corner has one and she got raped last week.
Guess white boys cannot be named George and go to UVA and play lacrosse, unless he is a woman beating girlfriend murderer!!
You can go straight to a burning pit of Hades for even suggesting that honest, decent black people have to further minimize themselves, dishonor their own feelings, smile when they don't want to, dress a certain way, step out of their own f$$$$&& selves to make you feel comfortable enough to not assume he is not a nigger.
NP here -- This sums up everything that I think of AAs -- this is the sum total of why they as a race (doesn't matter if this lady is a millionaire) cannot get ahead. Too much anger. Too much of -- I am who I am. Too much concern about respect. Too much crying about unfairness.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm seriously wondering. You know you are raising your kids in a country (world?) where there is skin color discrimination. I'd imagine the AAs reading on here are well-to-do -- do you teach them that the world should accept diversity and sing kumbaya? Because if I had an AA child -- esp a son -- I would tell him that if the cops stop him and ask him to do anything -- he does it. Even if it's dumb. Even if it accuses him unfairly or whatever. We will deal with "fixing" the situation later -- he just needs to make it out of the situation alive.
Why do so many AA young men have the view that they can and should stand up to the cops? Sure Michael Brown wasn't armed, but many black men of that age group are -- why would any cop give him the benefit of the doubt?? If they told him to get on the sidewalk -- why not get on the damn sidewalk? And why not teach AA boys to dress a bit more respectably instead of embracing the thus culture? I'm guessing someone walking around in jeans with a sports coat is a bit less likely to be harassed than someone in a hoodie.
I am sure DCUM will jump all over me, but I am genuinely curious. I am of a different profiled class and you better believe that at the airport and in gov't buildings -- I am on my best behavior; always carrying ID, polite even if I have to go through another damn security check for no reason, dressed professionally etc. I know my profiled class has created issues for the world -- I don't want to give anyone a reason to have an issue with me. Seems like AAs don't think that way.
I think African immigrants would be more likely to want to distinguish themselves from the stereotypical black person thug image.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm seriously wondering. You know you are raising your kids in a country (world?) where there is skin color discrimination. I'd imagine the AAs reading on here are well-to-do -- do you teach them that the world should accept diversity and sing kumbaya? Because if I had an AA child -- esp a son -- I would tell him that if the cops stop him and ask him to do anything -- he does it. Even if it's dumb. Even if it accuses him unfairly or whatever. We will deal with "fixing" the situation later -- he just needs to make it out of the situation alive.
Why do so many AA young men have the view that they can and should stand up to the cops? Sure Michael Brown wasn't armed, but many black men of that age group are -- why would any cop give him the benefit of the doubt?? If they told him to get on the sidewalk -- why not get on the damn sidewalk? And why not teach AA boys to dress a bit more respectably instead of embracing the thus culture? I'm guessing someone walking around in jeans with a sports coat is a bit less likely to be harassed than someone in a hoodie.
I am sure DCUM will jump all over me, but I am genuinely curious. I am of a different profiled class and you better believe that at the airport and in gov't buildings -- I am on my best behavior; always carrying ID, polite even if I have to go through another damn security check for no reason, dressed professionally etc. I know my profiled class has created issues for the world -- I don't want to give anyone a reason to have an issue with me. Seems like AAs don't think that way.
REALLY?!We're not a monolithic group! I'm black and I agree with you 100%. I will not elaborate more on this discussion because people who think like me are demonized and called, "sellouts". However, I understand your logic.
REALLLYYY???
People change their BEHAVIOUR and style of dress because they are trying to save their lives!!!!!!
People are tooo damn lazy to realize that not all black or brown people are the same.
So black men often are forced to cater to the twisted logic and assumptions of the lazy mind that cannot tell the difference between a mugger and an MBA because they both have black skin.
Forget you!
If Mark Zuckerberg can wear a hoodie and jeans then my damn husband can too!!!!
Since when did the idea that criminals are the only ones who can wear certain things?!!!!
I guess white men can't wear a mustache because Hitler had one.
I guess white women can't name your white little boys Bernie because folks will assume they will be white collar fraudulent con men criminals.
I guess all the women with vaginas better put those away because the lady around the corner has one and she got raped last week.
Guess white boys cannot be named George and go to UVA and play lacrosse, unless he is a woman beating girlfriend murderer!!
You can go straight to a burning pit of Hades for even suggesting that honest, decent black people have to further minimize themselves, dishonor their own feelings, smile when they don't want to, dress a certain way, step out of their own f$$$$&& selves to make you feel comfortable enough to not assume he is not a nigger.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it's called the window effect theory, where we believe things to be true by what we see. When we watch tv we see the what the bad guys look like from the news from prison shows whatever. When we see someone that wears the same clothes, talks like them and carries themselves the way they do, then peoples protective instincts go off. This is true for any race.
I am white and I will explain to my kids what was explained to me. The cops are they if you need help - ask. If you are being questioned or in trouble BE RESPECTFUL.
So what happens when the respect still earns them a bullet?
How do we know that he was being respectful or talking shit?? We don't. Or the cop was a racist ass? We don't.
Anonymous wrote:I am a white woman who looks like a minivan driving soccer mom and I am terrified of the police...and I suspect I am teaching my kids the same things AA parents teach their kids. I suspect most parents teach their kids the same thing about possible interactions with the police: they carry weapons and can use them, so follow directions, be calm and respectful, and keep your hands visible and still. No sudden movements. Don't seem agitated or aggressive. These are the rules I live by since I don't really trust all police officers to do the right thing. These are people who likely didn't attend college and opted for a career because they were seeking an authority role that allows them to carry a weapon.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it's called the window effect theory, where we believe things to be true by what we see. When we watch tv we see the what the bad guys look like from the news from prison shows whatever. When we see someone that wears the same clothes, talks like them and carries themselves the way they do, then peoples protective instincts go off. This is true for any race.
I am white and I will explain to my kids what was explained to me. The cops are they if you need help - ask. If you are being questioned or in trouble BE RESPECTFUL.
So what happens when the respect still earns them a bullet?
Anonymous wrote:I think it's called the window effect theory, where we believe things to be true by what we see. When we watch tv we see the what the bad guys look like from the news from prison shows whatever. When we see someone that wears the same clothes, talks like them and carries themselves the way they do, then peoples protective instincts go off. This is true for any race.
I am white and I will explain to my kids what was explained to me. The cops are they if you need help - ask. If you are being questioned or in trouble BE RESPECTFUL.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm seriously wondering. You know you are raising your kids in a country (world?) where there is skin color discrimination. I'd imagine the AAs reading on here are well-to-do -- do you teach them that the world should accept diversity and sing kumbaya? Because if I had an AA child -- esp a son -- I would tell him that if the cops stop him and ask him to do anything -- he does it. Even if it's dumb. Even if it accuses him unfairly or whatever. We will deal with "fixing" the situation later -- he just needs to make it out of the situation alive.
Why do so many AA young men have the view that they can and should stand up to the cops? Sure Michael Brown wasn't armed, but many black men of that age group are -- why would any cop give him the benefit of the doubt?? If they told him to get on the sidewalk -- why not get on the damn sidewalk? And why not teach AA boys to dress a bit more respectably instead of embracing the thus culture? I'm guessing someone walking around in jeans with a sports coat is a bit less likely to be harassed than someone in a hoodie.
I am sure DCUM will jump all over me, but I am genuinely curious. I am of a different profiled class and you better believe that at the airport and in gov't buildings -- I am on my best behavior; always carrying ID, polite even if I have to go through another damn security check for no reason, dressed professionally etc. I know my profiled class has created issues for the world -- I don't want to give anyone a reason to have an issue with me. Seems like AAs don't think that way.
REALLY?!We're not a monolithic group! I'm black and I agree with you 100%. I will not elaborate more on this discussion because people who think like me are demonized and called, "sellouts". However, I understand your logic.