Anonymous
Post 08/13/2014 13:36     Subject: If you are half asian is it better to ommit the asian part so that it's easier to get in?
Anonymous wrote:What about 1/4. My kids are and I include it when asked 1/4 Asian. It usually says check all that apply.


I wouldn't check it. IMO, it'd only work 'against' them.

What's the point?
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2014 13:31     Subject: If you are half asian is it better to ommit the asian part so that it's easier to get in?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I have an Egyptian friend (middle eastern, not black) and she marks "African American" on everything. She concedes that she's more African than most blacks in America.

America has a problem with race obviously.


On one of the threads on DCUM, I mentioned that Egyptians were Africans but was told they were actually Middle Easterners as an ethnicity.

I think Egyptians are North Africans not "Africans".


North Africa is in Africa. You can tell because it's called North AFRICA.

MCPS offers these choices: white, Hispanic/Latino, Asian, black or African-American, two or more races, American Indian or Alaska Native, native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander. What is the most appropriate choice for somebody from North Africa? Beats me. Does MCPS offer "other" as a choice?

Also, as a PP said, Hispanic/Latino is an ethnicity, not a race. MCPS should not conflate the two categories.

It's confusing. Some north africans look white, some look Hispanic and some look black How about black Asians? They are Asians, right?


Actually no, that part is not confusing. If North Africans say they're white, then they're white. Because I classify myself, and you classify yourself, and President Obama classifies himself, and people from North Africa classify themselves. The question is, what category would a North African pick who does not consider themself white?
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2014 13:06     Subject: If you are half asian is it better to ommit the asian part so that it's easier to get in?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have an Egyptian friend (middle eastern, not black) and she marks "African American" on everything. She concedes that she's more African than most blacks in America.

America has a problem with race obviously.


On one of the threads on DCUM, I mentioned that Egyptians were Africans but was told they were actually Middle Easterners as an ethnicity.

I think Egyptians are North Africans not "Africans".


North Africa is in Africa. You can tell because it's called North AFRICA.

MCPS offers these choices: white, Hispanic/Latino, Asian, black or African-American, two or more races, American Indian or Alaska Native, native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander. What is the most appropriate choice for somebody from North Africa? Beats me. Does MCPS offer "other" as a choice?

Also, as a PP said, Hispanic/Latino is an ethnicity, not a race. MCPS should not conflate the two categories.

It's confusing. Some north africans look white, some look Hispanic and some look black How about black Asians? They are Asians, right?
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2014 12:34     Subject: If you are half asian is it better to ommit the asian part so that it's easier to get in?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have an Egyptian friend (middle eastern, not black) and she marks "African American" on everything. She concedes that she's more African than most blacks in America.

America has a problem with race obviously.


On one of the threads on DCUM, I mentioned that Egyptians were Africans but was told they were actually Middle Easterners as an ethnicity.

I think Egyptians are North Africans not "Africans".


North Africa is in Africa. You can tell because it's called North AFRICA.

MCPS offers these choices: white, Hispanic/Latino, Asian, black or African-American, two or more races, American Indian or Alaska Native, native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander. What is the most appropriate choice for somebody from North Africa? Beats me. Does MCPS offer "other" as a choice?

Also, as a PP said, Hispanic/Latino is an ethnicity, not a race. MCPS should not conflate the two categories.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2014 12:20     Subject: If you are half asian is it better to ommit the asian part so that it's easier to get in?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have an Egyptian friend (middle eastern, not black) and she marks "African American" on everything. She concedes that she's more African than most blacks in America.

America has a problem with race obviously.


On one of the threads on DCUM, I mentioned that Egyptians were Africans but was told they were actually Middle Easterners as an ethnicity.

I think Egyptians are North Africans not "Africans".
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2014 10:59     Subject: If you are half asian is it better to ommit the asian part so that it's easier to get in?
Anonymous wrote:I have an Egyptian friend (middle eastern, not black) and she marks "African American" on everything. She concedes that she's more African than most blacks in America.

America has a problem with race obviously.


On one of the threads on DCUM, I mentioned that Egyptians were Africans but was told they were actually Middle Easterners as an ethnicity.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2014 10:54     Subject: If you are half asian is it better to ommit the asian part so that it's easier to get in?
I have an Egyptian friend (middle eastern, not black) and she marks "African American" on everything. She concedes that she's more African than most blacks in America.

America has a problem with race obviously.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2014 10:50     Subject: Re:If you are half asian is it better to ommit the asian part so that it's easier to get in?
Anonymous wrote:It's called integrity, OP. You don't go far in life without it.

If you are half Asian (as my kids are) you don't lie about it.


Sometimes you are forced to do jujitsu manuevers so you can avoid the racism. if that means checking the "white" box instead of the "asian" box, I would do it. There are schools that think there are too many asians and factor that into the admissions decision. Don't kid yourself.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2014 09:37     Subject: If you are half asian is it better to ommit the asian part so that it's easier to get in?
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I have wondered about a similar question, b/c I have two Chinese-American daughters, but my DH and I are Caucasian. I have wondered, when we get to this point, if it would make a difference one way or another as to which "box" they check (say, on college applications) and, if so, which one would be "better."


Your daughters, I assume adopted since you are both White, are Asian. They are not White simply because you raised them. You cannot take away their ethnicity and race.


Many times I see the question written, "Mark the race you most identify with," or something to that extent. That is why Obama is black even though he's 50% white. Technically because he is 50/50 he is mixed but he gets away with being black because that's how he identifies himself (and because he can claim racism from whites easier).

I was born in the US and whenever there's the choice of Native American, I choose that even though technically I am white - I identify as Native American.


"I don't know what you mean by 'glory,'?" Alice said.

Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. "Of course you don't—till I tell you. I meant 'there's a nice knock-down argument for you!'?"

"But 'glory' doesn't mean 'a nice knock-down argument'," Alice objected.

"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less."

"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."

"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master—that's all."
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2014 07:06     Subject: If you are half asian is it better to ommit the asian part so that it's easier to get in?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have wondered about a similar question, b/c I have two Chinese-American daughters, but my DH and I are Caucasian. I have wondered, when we get to this point, if it would make a difference one way or another as to which "box" they check (say, on college applications) and, if so, which one would be "better."


Your daughters, I assume adopted since you are both White, are Asian. They are not White simply because you raised them. You cannot take away their ethnicity and race.


Many times I see the question written, "Mark the race you most identify with," or something to that extent. That is why Obama is black even though he's 50% white. Technically because he is 50/50 he is mixed but he gets away with being black because that's how he identifies himself (and because he can claim racism from whites easier).

I was born in the US and whenever there's the choice of Native American, I choose that even though technically I am white - I identify as Native American.


Lol Obama "gets away" with being black? America would never let him be anything other than black. That one-drop rule is too engrained in our culture.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2014 02:02     Subject: If you are half asian is it better to ommit the asian part so that it's easier to get in?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have wondered about a similar question, b/c I have two Chinese-American daughters, but my DH and I are Caucasian. I have wondered, when we get to this point, if it would make a difference one way or another as to which "box" they check (say, on college applications) and, if so, which one would be "better."


Your daughters, I assume adopted since you are both White, are Asian. They are not White simply because you raised them. You cannot take away their ethnicity and race.


Many times I see the question written, "Mark the race you most identify with," or something to that extent. That is why Obama is black even though he's 50% white. Technically because he is 50/50 he is mixed but he gets away with being black because that's how he identifies himself (and because he can claim racism from whites easier).

I was born in the US and whenever there's the choice of Native American, I choose that even though technically I am white - I identify as Native American.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2014 23:48     Subject: Re:If you are half asian is it better to ommit the asian part so that it's easier to get in?
If you are applying to private PK-12 schools in the DC area then being Asian will give you an advantage as they can count that in their diversity stats. If you are talking about college applications I would avoid identifying as Asian if possible as it will make admissions more difficult. It's the truth!
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2014 23:27     Subject: If you are half asian is it better to ommit the asian part so that it's easier to get in?
Anonymous wrote:My kids are Caucasian and Latino.

We mark "other" and write in American.


You must not be the Latino parent. Latino isn't a racial category it is an ethnic category. You can be Latino and white, Latino and black, Latino and Asian, etc.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2014 23:19     Subject: If you are half asian is it better to ommit the asian part so that it's easier to get in?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is there a penalty for being a certain race in terms of college and private schools admissions?


There is sometimes a penalty for being white. My kids are half Asian and half Caucasian. we claim them as Asian, period, when the form only offers one choice. In the Odumbo administration, minorities rule.


Are your children applying for jobs in the Obama administration?


Anonymous
Post 08/12/2014 22:44     Subject: If you are half asian is it better to ommit the asian part so that it's easier to get in?
My kids are Caucasian and Latino.

We mark "other" and write in American.