jsteele
Post 07/30/2014 20:04     Subject: Israel's Bombing of Schools
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am very sorry that children were killed, they should not have been, but yes, I agree on points 2-4. There is plenty of evidence that Hamas stores rockets in the schools. And uses a hospital as HQ.


I stipulated in my original post that rockets had been stored in schools. But, don't you think that Israel has alternatives to bombing the schools? If the thousands of rockets fired so far have only killed three Israelis, how much real danger could there be in a handful hidden in a school? I can understand supporting Israel taking action to defend itself. I can't understand supporting Israel taking this action, particularly given that the UN has been willing to expose and remove weapons from schools.

Edit: I meant to start off by thanking you for expressing sorrow that children were killed. I think that it is important that even those opposed to each other show humanity toward the other side.


I don't start my 'body count' at this war. I count ever Jewish life lost to suicide bombers, every American life lost to terrorists, every Muslim child's life lost to honor killings and as martyrs, every Muslim woman's life lost due to oppression, every homosexual's life lost to intolerance, and every Christian's life lost, due to Islamic hate.

When you look at terrorist violence as a whole, and roll in Islamic government sanctioned killings, you can easily see the truth. Screaming 'but the children' is merely a deflection of said truth. Deliberately done.



If people blame all Jews for the actions of Israel, it is considered anti-Semitic. But, when you blame Hamas for everything any Muslim or Arab has done, it's considered a strong argument. You are unconscionable and again, do more harm to Israel than any Hamas supporter could ever dream of doing.
Muslima
Post 07/30/2014 20:04     Subject: Israel's Bombing of Schools
Anonymous wrote:
Muslima wrote:There is no evidence that Hamas fired any rockets from a school. There is evidence that rockets were stored in some schools. That doesn't justify bombing the schools, or shelters. If Criminals store weapons in a Washington DC Kindergarten, I guess you would then agree that the FBI is justified in bombing the Kindergarten because weapons were stored there. Ridiculous~


Actually, weapons storage depots are legitimate targets.


Not true in this case. Israel argues that it can invoke the right to self-defense under international law as defined in Article 51 of the UN Charter. The International Court of Justice, however, rejected this faulty legal interpretation in its 2004 Advisory Opinion. The ICJ explained that an armed attack that would trigger Article 51 must be attributable to a sovereign state, but the armed attacks by Palestinians emerge from within Israel’s jurisdictional control. Israel does have the right to defend itself against rocket attacks, but it must do so in accordance with occupation law and not other laws of war. Occupation law ensures greater protection for the civilian population.
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2014 20:03     Subject: Israel's Bombing of Schools
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Muslima wrote:There is no evidence that Hamas fired any rockets from a school. There is evidence that rockets were stored in some schools. That doesn't justify bombing the schools, or shelters. If Criminals store weapons in a Washington DC Kindergarten, I guess you would then agree that the FBI is justified in bombing the Kindergarten because weapons were stored there. Ridiculous~


Our elected government would have to bomb themselves. Furthermore the parents of said children would not bring the kids of to the rooftop of that kindergarten. Remember, honor killings prove who value their own kids and who does not. And they are government sanctioned. In the US, honor killings and wiring up your kids is a punishable crime, not a badge of honor.


Stop with the bullshit. Honor killings have nothing to do with schools being bombed. Parents are not bringing their children to the roofs of kindergartens. Posts like this do more to increase hatred for Israel than the best Hamas propagandist. If you cannot bring yourself to express sorrow for the deaths of children, at least have the decency to just shut up.


Honor killings show the mentality, the mindset, of the individuals Israel is dealing with. Sorry if that practice makes you angry.
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2014 20:02     Subject: Re:Israel's Bombing of Schools
UN spokesman breaks down in tears over school bombing.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iFd8jVrbf0A&feature=youtu.be
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2014 20:01     Subject: Israel's Bombing of Schools
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't care if it's one or 1,000 rockets in a given school. They are storing rockets in schools! They have wonderful tunnels, built with the cement Israel gave them. Why not store rockets there instead of schools? My goodness. The mentality of Hamas!


So, you support Israel's killing 20 children? That is fine with you and you have no regrets? I just want to be clear about this.



I, nor the pp, have no reason to regret. We did not kill these children. Hamas did.
Muslima
Post 07/30/2014 19:59     Subject: Israel's Bombing of Schools
Anonymous wrote:I don't care if it's one or 1,000 rockets in a given school. They are storing rockets in schools! They have wonderful tunnels, built with the cement Israel gave them. Why not store rockets there instead of schools? My goodness. The mentality of Hamas!


Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told Fusion TV´s Jorge Ramos that part of the reason Hamas hides rockets in schools and civilian areas is "Gaza is small." "I´m not a military planner but Hamas puts it´s missiles, it´s rockets in civilian areas, part of it is Gaza is pretty small and its densely populated,"
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2014 19:59     Subject: Israel's Bombing of Schools
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am very sorry that children were killed, they should not have been, but yes, I agree on points 2-4. There is plenty of evidence that Hamas stores rockets in the schools. And uses a hospital as HQ.


I stipulated in my original post that rockets had been stored in schools. But, don't you think that Israel has alternatives to bombing the schools? If the thousands of rockets fired so far have only killed three Israelis, how much real danger could there be in a handful hidden in a school? I can understand supporting Israel taking action to defend itself. I can't understand supporting Israel taking this action, particularly given that the UN has been willing to expose and remove weapons from schools.

Edit: I meant to start off by thanking you for expressing sorrow that children were killed. I think that it is important that even those opposed to each other show humanity toward the other side.


I don't start my 'body count' at this war. I count ever Jewish life lost to suicide bombers, every American life lost to terrorists, every Muslim child's life lost to honor killings and as martyrs, every Muslim woman's life lost due to oppression, every homosexual's life lost to intolerance, and every Christian's life lost, due to Islamic hate.

When you look at terrorist violence as a whole, and roll in Islamic government sanctioned killings, you can easily see the truth. Screaming 'but the children' is merely a deflection of said truth. Deliberately done.

jsteele
Post 07/30/2014 19:58     Subject: Israel's Bombing of Schools
Anonymous wrote:I don't care if it's one or 1,000 rockets in a given school. They are storing rockets in schools! They have wonderful tunnels, built with the cement Israel gave them. Why not store rockets there instead of schools? My goodness. The mentality of Hamas!


So, you support Israel's killing 20 children? That is fine with you and you have no regrets? I just want to be clear about this.
jsteele
Post 07/30/2014 19:57     Subject: Israel's Bombing of Schools
Anonymous wrote:
Muslima wrote:There is no evidence that Hamas fired any rockets from a school. There is evidence that rockets were stored in some schools. That doesn't justify bombing the schools, or shelters. If Criminals store weapons in a Washington DC Kindergarten, I guess you would then agree that the FBI is justified in bombing the Kindergarten because weapons were stored there. Ridiculous~


Our elected government would have to bomb themselves. Furthermore the parents of said children would not bring the kids of to the rooftop of that kindergarten. Remember, honor killings prove who value their own kids and who does not. And they are government sanctioned. In the US, honor killings and wiring up your kids is a punishable crime, not a badge of honor.


Stop with the bullshit. Honor killings have nothing to do with schools being bombed. Parents are not bringing their children to the roofs of kindergartens. Posts like this do more to increase hatred for Israel than the best Hamas propagandist. If you cannot bring yourself to express sorrow for the deaths of children, at least have the decency to just shut up.
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2014 19:56     Subject: Israel's Bombing of Schools
Muslima wrote:There is no evidence that Hamas fired any rockets from a school. There is evidence that rockets were stored in some schools. That doesn't justify bombing the schools, or shelters. If Criminals store weapons in a Washington DC Kindergarten, I guess you would then agree that the FBI is justified in bombing the Kindergarten because weapons were stored there. Ridiculous~


Actually, weapons storage depots are legitimate targets.
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2014 19:56     Subject: Israel's Bombing of Schools
I don't care if it's one or 1,000 rockets in a given school. They are storing rockets in schools! They have wonderful tunnels, built with the cement Israel gave them. Why not store rockets there instead of schools? My goodness. The mentality of Hamas!
Muslima
Post 07/30/2014 19:54     Subject: Israel's Bombing of Schools
Anonymous wrote:
Muslima wrote:There is no evidence that Hamas fired any rockets from a school. There is evidence that rockets were stored in some schools. That doesn't justify bombing the schools, or shelters. If Criminals store weapons in a Washington DC Kindergarten, I guess you would then agree that the FBI is justified in bombing the Kindergarten because weapons were stored there. Ridiculous~


Our elected government would have to bomb themselves. Furthermore the parents of said children would not bring the kids of to the rooftop of that kindergarten. Remember, honor killings prove who value their own kids and who does not. And they are government sanctioned. In the US, honor killings and wiring up your kids is a punishable crime, not a badge of honor.


Is that the fairytale you tell yourself to sleep better at night? Show your evidence of children being on rooftops of shelters for honor killing and wired or stop making comments that just make you look ignorant.....
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2014 19:54     Subject: Israel's Bombing of Schools
I wish there was no war. Given that there is a war, I wish the enemy could be easily identified. Right now, we are in the middle of the battle. We see the horrible results. But, also, right now, one side is controlling the message. We do not know who is firing what. Or why a specific item is targeted.

And mistakes happen.

I am horrified at the death of children and refugees. However, we don't have the facts....
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2014 19:52     Subject: Israel's Bombing of Schools
Muslima wrote:There is no evidence that Hamas fired any rockets from a school. There is evidence that rockets were stored in some schools. That doesn't justify bombing the schools, or shelters. If Criminals store weapons in a Washington DC Kindergarten, I guess you would then agree that the FBI is justified in bombing the Kindergarten because weapons were stored there. Ridiculous~


Our elected government would have to bomb themselves. Furthermore the parents of said children would not bring the kids of to the rooftop of that kindergarten. Remember, honor killings prove who value their own kids and who does not. And they are government sanctioned. In the US, honor killings and wiring up your kids is a punishable crime, not a badge of honor.
jsteele
Post 07/30/2014 19:48     Subject: Israel's Bombing of Schools
Anonymous wrote:I am very sorry that children were killed, they should not have been, but yes, I agree on points 2-4. There is plenty of evidence that Hamas stores rockets in the schools. And uses a hospital as HQ.


I stipulated in my original post that rockets had been stored in schools. But, don't you think that Israel has alternatives to bombing the schools? If the thousands of rockets fired so far have only killed three Israelis, how much real danger could there be in a handful hidden in a school? I can understand supporting Israel taking action to defend itself. I can't understand supporting Israel taking this action, particularly given that the UN has been willing to expose and remove weapons from schools.

Edit: I meant to start off by thanking you for expressing sorrow that children were killed. I think that it is important that even those opposed to each other show humanity toward the other side.