i am a super indulgent dcum parent - BUT, i would not allow any of the 3.

Anonymous wrote:Come on OP - this is DCUM! Of course these mothers would allow their brats to do whatever they wanted because it is just too much work to try and teach them - oh! I mean, because it is developmentally part of their child's stage!

LMAO!!! Totally true. People are raising brats. I get what the OP is pissed about. Parents are constantly hiding behind a kids age instead of telling them no.

The OP of the other thread was really confused about her responsibilities. She kept trying to discipline someone else's toddler, escalated until it turned physical, and then decided that the poor kid was a "brat" for behaving no better than she did.

I hope she learns.

I wouldn't let my kids do anything of the kind, but I wouldn't get into a physical battle with someone else's children. If they were two-year-olds, I'd probably say something to the supervising adult.

Anonymous wrote:Sure - a few, but not the entire flower bed. Flowers are pretty and should be enjoyed, not revered. Taking a couple and giving them to a friend demonstrates kindness. However, wiping the entire flower bed is destructive, so their is a difference.

Their
There
They're not the same...

Your grammar is as inappropriate as your attitude. If you pick the flowers, they won't be enjoyed anymore. If you want to give some to a friend, grow or buy them yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:Closer to home for me - would you allow your toddler to push ALL the buttons in the elevator and force everyone riding the elevator to stop at each floor? Why not - this is age appropriate behavior for a two year old?

This is the one that is different. For most modern elevators, if you press a lit button twice quickly, it will turn off the button. So, you can test one button and if it does that, then you can let your child push the buttons as long as you go and turn off the lit buttons before you exit the car.

All that button pushing is too much work for me as a parent, and it's confusing for people already inside the elevator. Even if I didn't have closely-spaced siblings ("My turn! My turn to push!") I wouldn't allow my toddler to bother and confuse the other riders.

Anonymous wrote:With the current lazy crap pawned off as "positive parenting" the child would not be stopped from pulling up flowers from your private garden in front of your house!

"Don't pull up the flowers, Austin.... Okay, that's one - Mommy said not to pull up this families flowers... Okay, that's two..."

THAT is the tiresome crap we hear day in and day out - and the two-year-old always wins.

You confuse positive parenting which is more active and includes consequences with passive or permissive parenting which would allow for such behaviors. Agreed, far to many passive or permissive parents around these days. Positive parenting is something else entirely and teaches about behavior and disciplines as needed.

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Anonymous wrote:Please, OP - in this stunningly entitled bunch of mothers, you will those who would defend the behavior of their child if they pulled flowers off an elderly woman's hat!!!

Please rephrase so that we can understand wtf you are so excited about. And lose the 3!!! exclamation points.

I'm not the PP, but I think that the PP's point is that, if you believe that a grown-up should not get into an altercation with an unknown two-year-old, you also

a. are stunningly entitled
b. think it's fine for children to pull flowers off old ladies' hats.

Anonymous wrote:Please, OP - in this stunningly entitled bunch of mothers, you will those who would defend the behavior of their child if they pulled flowers off an elderly woman's hat!!!

Please rephrase so that we can understand wtf you are so excited about. And lose the 3!!! exclamation points.

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No to everything.

Is this tongue-in-cheek OP?

I didn't read the thread a PP is referring to.

A thread further down where a mother stopped a two-year-old from taking with the toy bin her baby (9 months) was playing with. There were lots of responses that the mother of the baby should have let the toddler take it away from her baby as it was "age appropriate" behavior for the toddler.

The mother of the toddler stood by and did nothing until her child was in full screaming meltdown.

No. You are confused. We think it is inappropriate to call the 2 year old a brat for acting in an age appropriate way. We also think it is inappropriate to get in to a physical altercation with a 2 year old.

Exactly.

Anonymous wrote:I think there's a different standard between "behavior I don't allow for my child" and "behavior I correct someone else's child for" Age appropriate has very little to do with it, except for the fact that if an 8 year old were taking the toys, I could ask them not to. But, if they persisted, I'm still not going to get into a tug of war over the box.

Conversely, it may be age appropriate for a two year old to pull up flowers, but if a behavior crosses from annoying to destructive or dangerous, then you can correct someone else's kid. I guess the elevator button pushing is borderline. But, honestly, I'm not going to make a scene about someone else's kid doing that (Unless, I don't know, we were in a hospital or something where the delay could be dangerous). And, hopefully, in as small a space as an elevator, a small childs parents would be right there to notice.

This is really it. No one in the other thread was arguing that it was okay for the two-year-old to take something away from the baby. They were arguing that the OP was wrong to get in a tug-of-war with a toddler over the toys. They were also arguing that a two-year-old who takes a toy is not necessarily an "entitled brat," because such behavior is developmentally appropriate and it can take a lot of repetition to teach a kid that age things like sharing, etc.

I would not allow my kid to take a toy from another kid. I would not allow her to pick flowers in a public park. If a kid took a toy from my kid, I wouldn't get in a physical altercation with that kid to get it back. If another kid was picking flowers in a public park, I would tell them to stop, but I wouldn't get in a physical altercation in order to stop them. You can be right in principle, but wrong in execution.

Please, OP - in this stunningly entitled bunch of mothers, you will those who would defend the behavior of their child if they pulled flowers off an elderly woman's hat!!!

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Anonymous wrote:
No to everything.

Is this tongue-in-cheek OP?

I didn't read the thread a PP is referring to.

A thread further down where a mother stopped a two-year-old from taking with the toy bin her baby (9 months) was playing with. There were lots of responses that the mother of the baby should have let the toddler take it away from her baby as it was "age appropriate" behavior for the toddler.

The mother of the toddler stood by and did nothing until her child was in full screaming meltdown.

No. You are confused. We think it is inappropriate to call the 2 year old a brat for acting in an age appropriate way. We also think it is inappropriate to get in to a physical altercation with a 2 year old.

"Age appropriate" is never a reason for allowing a child to do something but it is a defense. No to all three and no to the original thread of doing nothing while my toddler took a toy from a baby.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
No to everything.

Is this tongue-in-cheek OP?

I didn't read the thread a PP is referring to.

A thread further down where a mother stopped a two-year-old from taking with the toy bin her baby (9 months) was playing with. There were lots of responses that the mother of the baby should have let the toddler take it away from her baby as it was "age appropriate" behavior for the toddler.

The mother of the toddler stood by and did nothing until her child was in full screaming meltdown.

Funny that OP finds her scenarios similar to the communal toy bin scenario. It's not some slippery slope: they're different.

I am the OP of this thread and not the mother in the other thread. These questions were posed by those who thought the mother of the toddler should have stopped her child from trying to pull a bin of toys away from a baby. Even though the toddler's behavior was normal and age appropriate - same as pulling up flowers in a public park.

I'm sorry you don't see the difference.