Ok, I didn't get go to YHS, but I am fairly comfortable asserting what makes those students more desirable usually than student from "poddunk law" is simple -- the selectivity process makes it likely that the kids at top law schools go in smarter is more analytical, etc. than the average kid at "poddunk" law. Yes there are exceptions. Yes, other factors are relevant to success such as social skills, work ethic, etc. And yes, the differences among HYS and other top 20 law schools is likely on average much smaller than the difference among H and other top 20 law schools.

Okay, I'm uninformed. What makes YHS trained attorneys special? I know attorneys from those schools and I know attorneys from some poddunk schools and I can't tell the difference capabilities. Perhaps it the rainmaker qualities that are the greatest differences?

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Anonymous wrote:There is no top 5 law schools. There is a top 7, known as the t7, and a top 14, known as the t14.

T7 is debatable, but usually includes Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Stanford, and Chicago. Sometimes NYU, Cornell, Northwestern, etc.

T14 is always Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Stanford, Chicago, NYU, Cornell, Northwestern, Georgetown, Duke, Penn, UC Berkeley, UVA, and Michigan.

Wtf?! Methinks you went to the seventh school (which idek because I'm T6). No one ever says T7. t3, T6, T10, T14 and T20 but seven is not a relevant or known tier break.

all the law schools forums use T7 and T14. i've heard t3 before but that's it, never heard of the others. which law school did you graduate from, if you don't mind me asking? what's your top 3/6/10/14/20?

The top law students from "non-top" law schools can usually kick the ass of students from the bottom half of top law schools. Firms who want bragging rights might restrict their hiring to those top schools but firms who want the best attorneys will cast a wider net.

Anonymous wrote:I don't think nyu really belongs in the top 5. I would say it goes yale, harvard, stanford, chicago; then nyu, michigan, penn, uva (in no particular order).

CCN is definitely a cut abouve mvpb because those 3 place easier in biglaw in big legal markets.

the top 5 thing is stupid.

there is y. then there is S and H depending on if you want a big school/small school, east or west.

Then there is cc and then n.

and then there is a gap to the next level down.

top 5 implies grouping cc with yhs and no one does that.

I don't think nyu really belongs in the top 5. I would say it goes yale, harvard, stanford, chicago; then nyu, michigan, penn, uva (in no particular order).

Back when I was in law school before the economy tanked and jobs were plentiful, it still was overall much easier to find a job from a top law school. I went to Harvard and the recruiters came early in the school year so by October, the vast majority of people knew where they were going for the summer or after graduation. I imagine with the cutbacks in law school, the ranking of the law school will have even more of an impact on job placement.

Anonymous wrote:There is no top 5 law schools. There is a top 7, known as the t7, and a top 14, known as the t14.

T7 is debatable, but usually includes Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Stanford, and Chicago. Sometimes NYU, Cornell, Northwestern, etc.

T14 is always Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Stanford, Chicago, NYU, Cornell, Northwestern, Georgetown, Duke, Penn, UC Berkeley, UVA, and Michigan.

Wtf?! Methinks you went to the seventh school (which idek because I'm T6). No one ever says T7. t3, T6, T10, T14 and T20 but seven is not a relevant or known tier break.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it Yale, Stanford, Harvard, NYU, and Columbia?

Yale, Harvard, Stanford, Columbia, Chicago.

Hiring can be very regional, so I'd also look to which market you are trying to get hired into.

Ie. if you are looking for a job on the West Coast, Berkley and Stanford are more highly ranked than Columbia or Chicago.

This is true, and even more true outside the "top 5". A professor used to tell me that you should go to college whereever you wanted, but you should go to law school where you wanted to live/practice.

Boy is that wrong advice. No one practices in Cambridge or New Haven.

Is this intended to be racially disparaging?

I seriously doubt it. I use that phrase to all the time. Boy, I really screwed that up. Etc.

There is no top 5 law schools. There is a top 7, known as the t7, and a top 14, known as the t14.

T7 is debatable, but usually includes Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Stanford, and Chicago. Sometimes NYU, Cornell, Northwestern, etc.

T14 is always Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Stanford, Chicago, NYU, Cornell, Northwestern, Georgetown, Duke, Penn, UC Berkeley, UVA, and Michigan.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it Yale, Stanford, Harvard, NYU, and Columbia?

Yale, Harvard, Stanford, Columbia, Chicago.

Hiring can be very regional, so I'd also look to which market you are trying to get hired into.

Ie. if you are looking for a job on the West Coast, Berkley and Stanford are more highly ranked than Columbia or Chicago.

This is true, and even more true outside the "top 5". A professor used to tell me that you should go to college whereever you wanted, but you should go to law school where you wanted to live/practice.

Boy is that wrong advice. No one practices in Cambridge or New Haven.

Is this intended to be racially disparaging?

Boy is that wrong advice. No one practices in Cambridge or New Haven.

Don't be dense.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it Yale, Stanford, Harvard, NYU, and Columbia?

Yale, Harvard, Stanford, Columbia, Chicago.

Hiring can be very regional, so I'd also look to which market you are trying to get hired into.

Ie. if you are looking for a job on the West Coast, Berkley and Stanford are more highly ranked than Columbia or Chicago.

This is true, and even more true outside the "top 5". A professor used to tell me that you should go to college whereever you wanted, but you should go to law school where you wanted to live/practice.

Boy is that wrong advice. No one practices in Cambridge or New Haven.