Anonymous
Post 07/17/2014 14:48     Subject: Outdoor Black tie wedding at a farm
Anonymous wrote:Panorama Farms in Earlyville. This group definitely means black tie (most invitees will own tux) but I am still dumbfounded by the venue and the dress code.


They might say black tie, but they don't understand black tie. An outdoor wedding on a farm in July is not black tie. Women can't wear gowns or heels in those conditions without risking ruining their clothes. I'd wear a cocktail dress with flats or wedges. Is the wedding even in the evening?
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2014 10:42     Subject: Outdoor Black tie wedding at a farm
Anonymous wrote:That place does not look appropriate for a black tie event. I think the couple have let Pinterest go to their heads.


This, exactly. Its one thing to do the place settings and flowers and lights like in a magazine, but telling your guests what kind of shoes to wear is over the top (and if the location requires them to wear flats, then telling them to wear black tie is just stupid).
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2014 08:14     Subject: Outdoor Black tie wedding at a farm
Black tie outside in July? That is just a rude and thoughtless thing to do to your guests. Wear whatever you like, or just show up for the indoor part.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2014 06:59     Subject: Outdoor Black tie wedding at a farm
OP I'd just use renttherunway.com to rent something.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2014 06:32     Subject: Outdoor Black tie wedding at a farm
That place does not look appropriate for a black tie event. I think the couple have let Pinterest go to their heads.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2014 05:48     Subject: Re:Outdoor Black tie wedding at a farm
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Opinions on these dresses please.


Thumbs down on the first three. They look very "mother-of-the-bride" to me.

http://shop.nordstrom.com/s/pisarro-nights-illusion-beaded-mesh-dress/3790230?origin=keywordsearch-personalizedsort&contextualcategoryid=2375500&fashionColor=&resultback=454&cm_sp=personalizedsort-_-searchresults-_-1_2_D

http://shop.nordstrom.com/s/pisarro-nights-beaded-mesh-gown-regular-petite/3790030?origin=category-personalizedsort&contextualcategoryid=0&fashionColor=&resultback=282&cm_sp=personalizedsort-_-browseresults-_-1_1_D

http://shop.nordstrom.com/s/pisarro-nights-illusion-yoke-beaded-mesh-dress-regular-petite/3763394?origin=keywordsearch-personalizedsort&contextualcategoryid=2375500&fashionColor=&resultback=445&cm_sp=personalizedsort-_-searchresults-_-1_2_C

Thumbs up on these:

http://www.neimanmarcus.com/Badgley-Mischka-Collection-One-Shoulder-Ruffle-Cocktail-Dress-Cocktail/prod169830228_cat9360738__/p.prod?icid=&searchType=EndecaDrivenCat&rte=%252Fcategory.jsp%253FitemId%253Dcat9360738%2526pageSize%253D30%2526No%253D0%2526refinements%253D&eItemId=prod169830228&cmCat=product

http://www.neimanmarcus.com/Rickie-Freeman-for-Teri-Jon-Sleeveless-Illusion-Overlay-Flare-Cocktail-Dress/prod169670054_cat9360738__/p.prod?icid=&searchType=EndecaDrivenCat&rte=%252Fcategory.service%253FitemId%253Dcat9360738%2526pageSize%253D30%2526No%253D180%2526Ns%253DPCS_SORT%2526refinements%253D&eItemId=prod169670054&cmCat=product

Thumbs up, especially if you go big on the necklace, like the second photo:

http://www.neimanmarcus.com/Carmen-Marc-Valvo-Sleeveless-Dot-Textured-Skirt-Cocktail-Dress-Black/prod167720009_cat9360738__/p.prod?icid=&searchType=EndecaDrivenCat&rte=%252Fcategory.service%253FitemId%253Dcat9360738%2526pageSize%253D30%2526No%253D270%2526Ns%253DPCS_SORT%2526refinements%253D&eItemId=prod167720009&cmCat=product

I'm on the fence. Not a fan of the high-low trend, but if you're 5'9" or taller, maybe you could carry it off.

http://www.neimanmarcus.com/ML-Monique-Lhuillier-Strapless-Box-Pleated-High-Low-Gown/prod169060437_cat35350732__/p.prod?icid=&searchType=EndecaDrivenCat&rte=%252Fcategory.service%253FitemId%253Dcat35350732%2526pageSize%253D30%2526No%253D30%2526Ns%253DPCS_SORT%2526refinements%253D&eItemId=prod169060437&cmCat=product


Again, a bit too "mother-of-the-bride" for me:

http://www.neimanmarcus.com/Aidan-Mattox-Short-Sleeve-Lace-Overlay-Sequin-Gown-Twilight/prod168600084_cat35350732__/p.prod?icid=&searchType=EndecaDrivenCat&rte=%252Fcategory.service%253FitemId%253Dcat35350732%2526pageSize%253D30%2526No%253D30%2526Ns%253DPCS_SORT%2526refinements%253D&eItemId=prod168600084&cmCat=product


+1 my thoughts exactly.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2014 22:00     Subject: Re:Outdoor Black tie wedding at a farm
Bride and groom sound like pompous aholes.
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2014 01:10     Subject: Re:Outdoor Black tie wedding at a farm
Anonymous wrote:Opinions on these dresses please.


Thumbs down on the first three. They look very "mother-of-the-bride" to me.

http://shop.nordstrom.com/s/pisarro-nights-illusion-beaded-mesh-dress/3790230?origin=keywordsearch-personalizedsort&contextualcategoryid=2375500&fashionColor=&resultback=454&cm_sp=personalizedsort-_-searchresults-_-1_2_D

http://shop.nordstrom.com/s/pisarro-nights-beaded-mesh-gown-regular-petite/3790030?origin=category-personalizedsort&contextualcategoryid=0&fashionColor=&resultback=282&cm_sp=personalizedsort-_-browseresults-_-1_1_D

http://shop.nordstrom.com/s/pisarro-nights-illusion-yoke-beaded-mesh-dress-regular-petite/3763394?origin=keywordsearch-personalizedsort&contextualcategoryid=2375500&fashionColor=&resultback=445&cm_sp=personalizedsort-_-searchresults-_-1_2_C

Thumbs up on these:

http://www.neimanmarcus.com/Badgley-Mischka-Collection-One-Shoulder-Ruffle-Cocktail-Dress-Cocktail/prod169830228_cat9360738__/p.prod?icid=&searchType=EndecaDrivenCat&rte=%252Fcategory.jsp%253FitemId%253Dcat9360738%2526pageSize%253D30%2526No%253D0%2526refinements%253D&eItemId=prod169830228&cmCat=product

http://www.neimanmarcus.com/Rickie-Freeman-for-Teri-Jon-Sleeveless-Illusion-Overlay-Flare-Cocktail-Dress/prod169670054_cat9360738__/p.prod?icid=&searchType=EndecaDrivenCat&rte=%252Fcategory.service%253FitemId%253Dcat9360738%2526pageSize%253D30%2526No%253D180%2526Ns%253DPCS_SORT%2526refinements%253D&eItemId=prod169670054&cmCat=product

Thumbs up, especially if you go big on the necklace, like the second photo:

http://www.neimanmarcus.com/Carmen-Marc-Valvo-Sleeveless-Dot-Textured-Skirt-Cocktail-Dress-Black/prod167720009_cat9360738__/p.prod?icid=&searchType=EndecaDrivenCat&rte=%252Fcategory.service%253FitemId%253Dcat9360738%2526pageSize%253D30%2526No%253D270%2526Ns%253DPCS_SORT%2526refinements%253D&eItemId=prod167720009&cmCat=product

I'm on the fence. Not a fan of the high-low trend, but if you're 5'9" or taller, maybe you could carry it off.

http://www.neimanmarcus.com/ML-Monique-Lhuillier-Strapless-Box-Pleated-High-Low-Gown/prod169060437_cat35350732__/p.prod?icid=&searchType=EndecaDrivenCat&rte=%252Fcategory.service%253FitemId%253Dcat35350732%2526pageSize%253D30%2526No%253D30%2526Ns%253DPCS_SORT%2526refinements%253D&eItemId=prod169060437&cmCat=product


Again, a bit too "mother-of-the-bride" for me:

http://www.neimanmarcus.com/Aidan-Mattox-Short-Sleeve-Lace-Overlay-Sequin-Gown-Twilight/prod168600084_cat35350732__/p.prod?icid=&searchType=EndecaDrivenCat&rte=%252Fcategory.service%253FitemId%253Dcat35350732%2526pageSize%253D30%2526No%253D30%2526Ns%253DPCS_SORT%2526refinements%253D&eItemId=prod168600084&cmCat=product
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2014 01:07     Subject: Outdoor Black tie wedding at a farm
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:http://www.weddinggownyes.com/high-end-black-flat-strapless-with-ribbon-tea-length-aline-cocktail-dress-p-3304.html

Try something like this.


Not this. Reminds me of a dress I wore to a College Winter Formal in 1988.


+1

You got the year right, exactly.

But I like the tea-length idea. Just not the huge 1988 bow.
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2014 22:49     Subject: Re:Outdoor Black tie wedding at a farm
Anonymous wrote:I've been to absolutely lovely farm weddings -- sort of Martha Stewart meets Pottery Barn (uh, in a good way). Having said that, requiring black tie is ridiculous. IMO.



+1. The hosts need to just choose which type of wedding they are having and own it.
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2014 22:43     Subject: Outdoor Black tie wedding at a farm
Panorama Farms in Earlyville. This group definitely means black tie (most invitees will own tux) but I am still dumbfounded by the venue and the dress code.
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2014 22:23     Subject: Outdoor Black tie wedding at a farm
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"What's the venue? I'm from southern Virginia and don't know ANYONE who owns black tie. Having a hard time even imagining specifying an attire for a southern Virginia wedding. Maybe I'm just a hillbilly, though."

Obviously you are a hillbilly. I am also from southern Virginia and most of the weddings have attended at home have been black tie or cocktail. Let's please not sully the reputation of southern Virginia simply because your friends and family only have Carhart attire and no black tie.


If you're going to attempt to be witty by making fun of hillbilly attire, at least spell the shop correctly. It's CarharTT - two Ts.


Ha ha! I'm the first PP. Thank you for this. I was trying to come up with a good comeback, but being that I'm a slow Southerner, I couldn't think of anything. And I didn't know what Carhart was and am too lazy to ask the Google.

Yes, PP, all my family wears "work wear" to weddings. You have us figured out. It's so we don't have to change clothes on our way in from the woods.

I think many men in this situation (in that area) probably would not rent or buy a tux if they did not own one already, and would probably be fine in a nice pressed shirt, tie, and dark suit. Agree with others that a shorter dressy cocktail dress (not a plain black shift type dress, but something with some detail, lace, beading, etc.), appropriate jewelry, and nicely done hair, would be fine. I might take some strappy flat beaded or shiny sandals to wear to the wedding and if driving to another site for the reception, change my shoes on the way there. I think it's hard for flats to not look frumpy with a dressy dress.

I'm still interested in the venue. I've been to some very nice weddings in my part of Southern VA and maintain that none of them were black tie. It isn't going to "sully" the reputation of the area by saying so, as I think most people from outside the area probably think it's a bunch of hillbillies anyway. But Southern VA is a big area, and if it's Charlottesville vs., say, Pittsylvania County....

Hopefully you know your friends and their family, so you are more likely to know if they mean "black tie" as a suggestion to class it up a bit, or if you would stick out like a sore thumb if your man wore a black suit instead of a tuxedo.
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2014 20:30     Subject: Outdoor Black tie wedding at a farm
Wear a fancy cocktail dress or tea length dress. I would opt for something with a full/flouncy skirt that will look nice with new ballet flats (cheap ones bc they might get ruined as you schlep up the hill to the barn in the mud).
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2014 18:42     Subject: Re:Outdoor Black tie wedding at a farm
Black tie means very dressy. So a very fancy cocktail dress with fabulous shoes and done hair is ok. Plain cocktail dress that could double as part of a suit with plain jane hair and flats is not ok. Your man should be in a tux.


Bride has stipulated not stilettos because we will be walking up a hill to the wedding. The whole thing is a bit bizarre. Hillside wedding/barn reception/black tie. It just doesn't all seem to fit. Fancy dress (gown is out because of venue) but flats so we can walk up the hill...
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2014 18:34     Subject: Outdoor Black tie wedding at a farm
Anonymous wrote:http://www.weddinggownyes.com/high-end-black-flat-strapless-with-ribbon-tea-length-aline-cocktail-dress-p-3304.html

Try something like this.


Not this. Reminds me of a dress I wore to a College Winter Formal in 1988.