An email with 30 days' notice wasn't sufficient for such a good friend.

But I agree with some others here that Helpful Helen is partly just pissed that you aren't making her sketchy real estate investment easy for her anymore. And that's what this was - she wasn't just buying you a house. You were helping each other out: she gave you a place to stay to run your daycare business when no one else would; you gave her (she thought) guaranteed, trustworthy, long-term tenants; a way to save $$$ on her mortgage rate (hey, what's a little fraud among friends?); plus a regular mortgage payment as the house appreciated over time. So her claim that she got "nothing" isn't true. She was making out well under these terms (a lower rate than she should have gotten AND an investment property that was paying itself off every month). Sounds like she expected the gravy train to run indefinitely, but your new plans and your poor communication flipped her out.

The whole thing sounds shady IMO.

Wow, you and your husband are really sucktastic people.

Anonymous wrote:Make sure you help your friend in every way possible. Make sure you cover any financial losses they may incur. Remember to be grateful to them for helping you out. Apologize profusely for the way you let her know and for the inconvenience.

Why? This is just terrible advice. The Helen wasn't helping the OP, she was helping herself in some way. The whole deal is just odd and weird and it's not on OP

How would you feel if you wanted to stay in the home, but your friend terminated your lease and you had to move?

Anonymous wrote:Make sure you help your friend in every way possible. Make sure you cover any financial losses they may incur. Remember to be grateful to them for helping you out. Apologize profusely for the way you let her know and for the inconvenience.

Odds of that happening are???

HH had her own reasons for this somewhat shady deal. This was not unforeseeable was it?

Not saying that Op was right - not all. But that these things happen when deals aren't legit.

Make sure you help your friend in every way possible. Make sure you cover any financial losses they may incur. Remember to be grateful to them for helping you out. Apologize profusely for the way you let her know and for the inconvenience.

I don't think moving makes you a shitty person, how you went about it does. Oh well, you have to live with yourself knowing you and your husbands are assholes.

Anonymous wrote:I would never have gotten in to this type of arrangement with a friend or family. It was not likely to end well. You should have had a contract that spelled out what would happen in various situations including this one.

What they were doing wasn't exactly on the up and up was it? Can you have a contract in a situation like that?

I would never have gotten in to this type of arrangement with a friend or family. It was not likely to end well. You should have had a contract that spelled out what would happen in various situations including this one.

This is the type of person who would run a daycare

This friendship is over.

With that being said, what you are doing is a little shitty. But, you are not responsible for HH's finances. I am guessing they wanted to get into real estate. HH should not have offered to buy the house if they could not afford it. Also, just so you know they are getting tax write offs. If you continue to live in that house, your husband will resent you and you will probably end up divorced. You won't be able to live in that house then either, will you?

Anonymous wrote:Legally, you are all in the wrong as you all committed fraud on the mortgage company. You are all guilty of a crime.

Morally, yes, OP, you are in the wrong. For the favor HH provided to you the bare minimum notice should've been 3 months, but 6 months preferred. Your husband should've gone to Utah to start his job without you while you stayed on for the extra time so that HH could find new tenants.

This, and also, what about the kids in your day care? Did you only give those parents 30 days notice too? I would have been pissed.

The:

I sent Helen the required "30-day notice" by law and also left her a voice message.

just kills me. On several levels.

Anonymous wrote:I hope you aren't mormon cause your mormon card would be revoked

I was thinking the same thing. Do they not recognize that they all committed a crime?