Anonymous wrote:I believe in creationism and natural selection, but not evolution. There is no evidence of mutations becoming new species. There is lots of evidence of natural selection weeding out mutation and strengthening within species . Lots of holes and weird unexplainable fossil evidence that contradicts all of it but always ignored.

Contradictory evidence means we have really no idea what the actual sequence of events was and how it all came to be. For some reason , scientists can't tolerate being potentially ignorant and they become really biased and kind of dumb.

I suggest you take a look in the mirror.

I believe in creationism and natural selection, but not evolution. There is no evidence of mutations becoming new species. There is lots of evidence of natural selection weeding out mutation and strengthening within species . Lots of holes and weird unexplainable fossil evidence that contradicts all of it but always ignored.

Contradictory evidence means we have really no idea what the actual sequence of events was and how it all came to be. For some reason , scientists can't tolerate being potentially ignorant and they become really biased and kind of dumb.

Here's the thing I don't get about Christians who read the Bible literally: If you follow the Bible, then you *know* God uses metaphors -- Jesus uses them over and over again in the New Testament. So I don't get why it seems like a Big Heretical Thing to say that elements of the Old Testament could be metaphor as well.

Also, if you know the history of the assembly of the bible, you know it was assembled by people. I'm sure they prayed over their choices, but the fact that they had various councils and debates over which books to include implies there wasn't perfect unanimity -- which you would think there would be, if God was giving direct input into the final selection. So there's definitely some room for error there, I think (unlike, say, the Quran, which claims to be the verbatim word of God, as recited by Gabriel).

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Anonymous wrote:So you are looking for a church that does not teach the Bible?
Just curious, I happen to believe in evolution AND Genesis.

so you believe there was light on the first day but the sun wasn't created until the third day?

I bet pp interprets Genesis metaphorically

No, I believe in it literally. God operates outside of time, time is a constructed created for Man, something we can understand in our human existence, God is Spirit, and operates outside of that construct. Yes, I believe in what you would probably call the 'supernatural". There is a level of physical existence, natural laws, and there is a higher plane of Spiritual existence that supercedes natural law. They can both exist.

You seem to have a personal religion, that includes, but is not limited to, biblical literalism

It is the Christian religion, and the Bible does not say anything different than what I said.

but it seems that you add to it, on your own, without any guidance from the God in the Christian bible. Where in the bible does it say that God operates outside of time and where does it say anything about evolution?

2 Peter 3:8 "But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day."

That's the Bible's statement of evolution?

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Anonymous wrote:So you are looking for a church that does not teach the Bible?
Just curious, I happen to believe in evolution AND Genesis.

so you believe there was light on the first day but the sun wasn't created until the third day?

I bet pp interprets Genesis metaphorically

No, I believe in it literally. God operates outside of time, time is a constructed created for Man, something we can understand in our human existence, God is Spirit, and operates outside of that construct. Yes, I believe in what you would probably call the 'supernatural". There is a level of physical existence, natural laws, and there is a higher plane of Spiritual existence that supercedes natural law. They can both exist.

You seem to have a personal religion, that includes, but is not limited to, biblical literalism

It is the Christian religion, and the Bible does not say anything different than what I said.

but it seems that you add to it, on your own, without any guidance from the God in the Christian bible. Where in the bible does it say that God operates outside of time and where does it say anything about evolution?

2 Peter 3:8 "But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day."

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Anonymous wrote:So you are looking for a church that does not teach the Bible?
Just curious, I happen to believe in evolution AND Genesis.

so you believe there was light on the first day but the sun wasn't created until the third day?

I bet pp interprets Genesis metaphorically

No, I believe in it literally. God operates outside of time, time is a constructed created for Man, something we can understand in our human existence, God is Spirit, and operates outside of that construct. Yes, I believe in what you would probably call the 'supernatural". There is a level of physical existence, natural laws, and there is a higher plane of Spiritual existence that supercedes natural law. They can both exist.

You seem to have a personal religion, that includes, but is not limited to, biblical literalism

It is the Christian religion, and the Bible does not say anything different than what I said.

but it seems that you add to it, on your own, without any guidance from the God in the Christian bible. Where in the bible does it say that God operates outside of time and where does it say anything about evolution?

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Anonymous wrote:So you are looking for a church that does not teach the Bible?
Just curious, I happen to believe in evolution AND Genesis.

so you believe there was light on the first day but the sun wasn't created until the third day?

I bet pp interprets Genesis metaphorically

No, I believe in it literally. God operates outside of time, time is a constructed created for Man, something we can understand in our human existence, God is Spirit, and operates outside of that construct. Yes, I believe in what you would probably call the 'supernatural". There is a level of physical existence, natural laws, and there is a higher plane of Spiritual existence that supercedes natural law. They can both exist.

You seem to have a personal religion, that includes, but is not limited to, biblical literalism

It is the Christian religion, and the Bible does not say anything different than what I said.

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Anonymous wrote:So you are looking for a church that does not teach the Bible?
Just curious, I happen to believe in evolution AND Genesis.

so you believe there was light on the first day but the sun wasn't created until the third day?

I bet pp interprets Genesis metaphorically

No, I believe in it literally. God operates outside of time, time is a constructed created for Man, something we can understand in our human existence, God is Spirit, and operates outside of that construct. Yes, I believe in what you would probably call the 'supernatural". There is a level of physical existence, natural laws, and there is a higher plane of Spiritual existence that supercedes natural law. They can both exist.

You seem to have a personal religion, that includes, but is not limited to, biblical literalism

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Anonymous wrote:So you are looking for a church that does not teach the Bible?
Just curious, I happen to believe in evolution AND Genesis.

so you believe there was light on the first day but the sun wasn't created until the third day?

I bet pp interprets Genesis metaphorically

No, I believe in it literally. God operates outside of time, time is a constructed created for Man, something we can understand in our human existence, God is Spirit, and operates outside of that construct. Yes, I believe in what you would probably call the 'supernatural". There is a level of physical existence, natural laws, and there is a higher plane of Spiritual existence that supercedes natural law. They can both exist.

Unitarians are not Christians.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think evolution and the Bible are mutually exclusive either. I believe in them both.

I believe in creation and natural selection . I do not yet believe species have turned into different species as their is no proof of it and their should be.

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Anonymous wrote:So you are looking for a church that does not teach the Bible?
Just curious, I happen to believe in evolution AND Genesis.

so you believe there was light on the first day but the sun wasn't created until the third day?

I bet pp interprets Genesis metaphorically

Anonymous wrote:Well, Catholicism absolutely does not believe in a literal interpretation of the bible. It is inspired by God, not a 100% literal play-by-play rule book. This is Catholic teaching from the top down, so it doesn't matter which Catholic church you go to.

Also, it's interesting to me that people are equating symbolic interpretation of the bible with a liberal church. The two don't always goes hand in hand.

They don't always, but in Protestant denominations or non-denominational churches, they are often linked. Even though almost no one follows the Bible literally, many people think they do, or claim to, and those are usually the most conservative.

Anonymous wrote:So you are looking for a church that does not teach the Bible?
Just curious, I happen to believe in evolution AND Genesis.

so you believe there was light on the first day but the sun wasn't created until the third day?