Anonymous
Post 06/17/2014 14:25     Subject: Re:Tell me why Harvard is the best!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: And there are more Fortune 100 CEOs with educations from IVY League institutions than any comparable pool of schools (I am guessing that if they ended up as CEO, they must have been able to do their entry level job pretty effectively and without alienating everyone that they worked with).

... Nepotism and family connections playing no part in it at all, oh no!


So, my daughter is valedictorian of her high school class. Because we are middle class, she has qualified for a generous financial aid package that will cover the majority of the cost of sending her to Yale. She was also admitted to UMD as her safety school. The all-in costs of the two are fairly comparable. She is very close to her grandparents and dreams one day of becoming a physician specializing in geriatrics. 95% of all Yale pre-med students get into medical school. Are you suggesting that I should encourage her to go to UMD? Are you out of your gourde?


You don't think she can get into medical school on her own merits.. then go to Yale.
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2014 14:15     Subject: Re:Tell me why Harvard is the best!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: And there are more Fortune 100 CEOs with educations from IVY League institutions than any comparable pool of schools (I am guessing that if they ended up as CEO, they must have been able to do their entry level job pretty effectively and without alienating everyone that they worked with).

... Nepotism and family connections playing no part in it at all, oh no!


So, my daughter is valedictorian of her high school class. Because we are middle class, she has qualified for a generous financial aid package that will cover the majority of the cost of sending her to Yale. She was also admitted to UMD as her safety school. The all-in costs of the two are fairly comparable. She is very close to her grandparents and dreams one day of becoming a physician specializing in geriatrics. 95% of all Yale pre-med students get into medical school. Are you suggesting that I should encourage her to go to UMD? Are you out of your gourde?
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2014 14:01     Subject: Re:Tell me why Harvard is the best!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: And there are more Fortune 100 CEOs with educations from IVY League institutions than any comparable pool of schools (I am guessing that if they ended up as CEO, they must have been able to do their entry level job pretty effectively and without alienating everyone that they worked with).

... Nepotism and family connections playing no part in it at all, oh no!


You must not work at a public company. All of them have anti-nepotism policies. Can't deny that connections do matter in life. That being said, you will have a hard time convincing me that raw intelligence isn't also a factor!
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2014 13:47     Subject: Re:Tell me why Harvard is the best!
Anonymous wrote: And there are more Fortune 100 CEOs with educations from IVY League institutions than any comparable pool of schools (I am guessing that if they ended up as CEO, they must have been able to do their entry level job pretty effectively and without alienating everyone that they worked with).

... Nepotism and family connections playing no part in it at all, oh no!
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2014 13:34     Subject: Re:Tell me why Harvard is the best!
...and that same doctor is probably utilizing procedures that were developed at Ivy League institutions. And most of the laws of this land were written by Ivy League educated lawyers. And there are more Fortune 100 CEOs with educations from IVY League institutions than any comparable pool of schools (I am guessing that if they ended up as CEO, they must have been able to do their entry level job pretty effectively and without alienating everyone that they worked with). These up-close and personal anecdotes that folks are representing as universal truths about the Ivy League are just ignorant and have more to do with the insecurity of the poster
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2014 11:46     Subject: Tell me why Harvard is the best!
Anonymous wrote:Worst boss I've had and worst employee I've hired were Harvard grads. Entitled, hard to get along with and focused on their own eliteness. YMMV.


exact point that doctor I know was trying to make. He said you can't criticize them or correct them or else they get offended. Also, they think they can get away with certain things.
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2014 11:41     Subject: Tell me why Harvard is the best!
Anonymous wrote:Name recognition among employers. If an employer gets a resume from a kid who went to Harvard and a kid who went to University of Maryland, who do you think she'll hire? It won't be the kid from Maryland.


I know a doctor who has his own private practice. He told me that he now prefers to hire people that are not Ivy grads because the ivy grads are a lot more snobby and think they are God's gift to the world. He gets along better with the non ivy grads.
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2014 06:36     Subject: Tell me why Harvard is the best!
The best at what?
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2014 06:09     Subject: Tell me why Harvard is the best!
Anonymous wrote:DD chose Yale over Harvard. It seemed like, in general, undergraduates at Yale have a better time than those at Harvard.


smart DD. If i had the chance to attend either for UG, I would choose like your DD did
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2014 04:56     Subject: Tell me why Harvard is the best!
Harvard is #2 according to US (Princeton University)
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2014 21:24     Subject: Tell me why Harvard is the best!
Anonymous wrote:Silly post. The fact is, there are about 50 or so private colleges and 80 or so publics that count. Others don't, at least not as much. Posts like this typically reflect encouragement from people associated with one, or resentment from people who aren't.




Talk to yourself, PP.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2014 21:22     Subject: Tell me why Harvard is the best!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:An Ivy degree is a sign that you're motivated and hard working. You were motivated and hardworking in high school and this led to acceptance at 10% odds. Most Ivy kids are the self-driven type and will be motivated through their lives.

Employers know this. This isn't to take away from hard-working kids at other colleges. But it's plum silly to write these personality characteristics off for Ivy kids just because someone's dad once had a bad experience with a woman from Princeton 10 years ago, or whatever. I know that troll is going to say, yet again, that "the hardest thing about an Ivy is getting in, har, har, har" but those of us with Ivy and non-Ivy experience know that's simply not true.

Similarly, it's plum silly, and pretty naive, to make mass generalizations about Ivy grads being arrogant or entitled, just because someone once met an Ivy grad who wouldn't send faxes. Geez, if we all drew conclusions about schools like this, UMD would come off as incredibly arrogant and silly based on the UMD poster here. Fortunately, I still love UMD, and that's because most of us are adults and able to draw our own, more reasonable, conclusions.

I don't understand. Please help me understand:

What's so silly about plums?

You have to go to Hahvahd to understand this, you uncouth plebe.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2014 21:02     Subject: Tell me why Harvard is the best!
Anonymous wrote:Silly post. The fact is, there are about 50 or so private colleges and 80 or so publics that count. Others don't, at least not as much. Posts like this typically reflect encouragement from people associated with one, or resentment from people who aren't.


You need more that 130 colleges to run this world. It is silly to think so narrowly.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2014 21:00     Subject: Tell me why Harvard is the best!
Anonymous wrote:Oh yay, all the DCUM hiring managers have come out of the woodwork to talk about their vast experience.

And I have some land in Florida to sell you guys....


If you paid for your Ivy education you already bought your land in Florida.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2014 20:52     Subject: Tell me why Harvard is the best!
Silly post. The fact is, there are about 50 or so private colleges and 80 or so publics that count. Others don't, at least not as much. Posts like this typically reflect encouragement from people associated with one, or resentment from people who aren't.