Anonymous wrote:its 2014 people.

my daughter is a current junior at Visi. I have no idea what she does with her BF (I have had the sex talk with her several times). Anyways, if she were to get knocked up by her 18 year old boyfriend who attends Gonzaga, both my husband and I would be in favor of her having an abortion. Financially we just could not afford to take one another child into our family nor are they responsbile enough to take care of a new born.

Should I consider myself a bad Cathlic for believing this.

Yes, you shouldn't even consider yourself a Catholic if these are your views. The Church is very clear that it believes abortion is murder.

Anonymous wrote:its 2014 people.

my daughter is a current junior at Visi. I have no idea what she does with her BF (I have had the sex talk with her several times). Anyways, if she were to get knocked up by her 18 year old boyfriend who attends Gonzaga, both my husband and I would be in favor of her having an abortion. Financially we just could not afford to take one another child into our family nor are they responsbile enough to take care of a new born.

Should I consider myself a bad Cathlic for believing this.

I don't think you'd be a bad Catholic. That's between you and God. However, they could have the baby and give it up for adoption, but your first thought is abortion.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here - I should clarify. My daughter is not an "open advocate" of gay marriage or abortion...not really sure where that came from?

Then she should be fine at either of these schools.

Thanks for the post. I just know she may not be comfortable at a school that focuses on issues like gay marriage and abortion - of course, we all (including her) know the church's stances on them, but I was curious to find out if these two schools are uber-Catholic and you have to be completely in line to fit in, or (to use a really bad analogy) it's more like say, Georgetown University or Boston College, where obviously you should know going in what they believe, but you're also not going to be publicly shamed or anything if you happen to mention you aren't against gay marriage, or whatever.

No, neither school has that reputation.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here - I should clarify. My daughter is not an "open advocate" of gay marriage or abortion...not really sure where that came from?

Then she should be fine at either of these schools.

Thanks for the post. I just know she may not be comfortable at a school that focuses on issues like gay marriage and abortion - of course, we all (including her) know the church's stances on them, but I was curious to find out if these two schools are uber-Catholic and you have to be completely in line to fit in, or (to use a really bad analogy) it's more like say, Georgetown University or Boston College, where obviously you should know going in what they believe, but you're also not going to be publicly shamed or anything if you happen to mention you aren't against gay marriage, or whatever.

Anonymous wrote:its 2014 people.

my daughter is a current junior at Visi. I have no idea what she does with her BF (I have had the sex talk with her several times). Anyways, if she were to get knocked up by her 18 year old boyfriend who attends Gonzaga, both my husband and I would be in favor of her having an abortion. Financially we just could not afford to take one another child into our family nor are they responsbile enough to take care of a new born.

Should I consider myself a bad Cathlic for believing this.

Honestly, probably yes. Although Pope Francis is emphasizing being loving and forgiving and open to all, he most certainly has not moved the Church away from its position that an unborn child is a life and abortion is wrong.

its 2014 people.

my daughter is a current junior at Visi. I have no idea what she does with her BF (I have had the sex talk with her several times). Anyways, if she were to get knocked up by her 18 year old boyfriend who attends Gonzaga, both my husband and I would be in favor of her having an abortion. Financially we just could not afford to take one another child into our family nor are they responsbile enough to take care of a new born.

Should I consider myself a bad Cathlic for believing this.

Anonymous wrote:OP here - I should clarify. My daughter is not an "open advocate" of gay marriage or abortion...not really sure where that came from?

Then she should be fine at either of these schools.

OP here - I should clarify. My daughter is not an "open advocate" of gay marriage or abortion...not really sure where that came from?

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Anonymous wrote:^^Calm down. The pps were saying that "openly advocating" for choice and gay marriage might not go over well. My DD learned to navigate how to answer questions on the religion test (the same way you do on most any test): write the best answer the way the teacher taught and what s/he wants to read. But she didn't start an after school club for Choice.

So basically she has to act one way in school to pass tests but because she isn't like the teachers that teach her, has a different belief outside of school. Sounds like a great school and not confusing to kids at all.

No different than a religious kid in a public school.

Give an example...

My son was campaigning at the 2008 election for the Republican party. It was just for the fun of it (he was in elementary) because nobody else wanted to do it. His BFF chose the libertarian candidate. They actually did not care who won like a normal elementary school kids but decided it did not make sense for nobody to be the Republican or Libertarian candidate.

Kids were really mean about his campaign like how dare he "fill in the blank". My son had to laugh, like he cared. Nobody even knew what a Libertarian was so his BFF got less attacks.

It was fun. We are super liberal Catholics and I like my kids to understand both sides of the coin.

There is absolutely nothing religious about this example. Actually it is a really stupid example of anything. Still waiting how it is hard for a Catholic to go to public school?

Why so angry?

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Anonymous wrote:^^Calm down. The pps were saying that "openly advocating" for choice and gay marriage might not go over well. My DD learned to navigate how to answer questions on the religion test (the same way you do on most any test): write the best answer the way the teacher taught and what s/he wants to read. But she didn't start an after school club for Choice.

So basically she has to act one way in school to pass tests but because she isn't like the teachers that teach her, has a different belief outside of school. Sounds like a great school and not confusing to kids at all.

No different than a religious kid in a public school.

Give an example...

My son was campaigning at the 2008 election for the Republican party. It was just for the fun of it (he was in elementary) because nobody else wanted to do it. His BFF chose the libertarian candidate. They actually did not care who won like a normal elementary school kids but decided it did not make sense for nobody to be the Republican or Libertarian candidate.

Kids were really mean about his campaign like how dare he "fill in the blank". My son had to laugh, like he cared. Nobody even knew what a Libertarian was so his BFF got less attacks.

It was fun. We are super liberal Catholics and I like my kids to understand both sides of the coin.

There is absolutely nothing religious about this example. Actually it is a really stupid example of anything. Still waiting how it is hard for a Catholic to go to public school?

It was very hard for my younger brother and cousins who attended public schools in this area a decade ago. Anti-Catholic jokes were considered socially acceptable. My older daughter attended public school here until 3 years ago and she reported at lot of anti-Catholic bigotry in secondary school. Teachers were often the source of factually wrong and prejudicial statements about Catholic beliefs and practices. I once had to email a principal because a teacher included the statement "Catholics worshiped the Virgin Mary." on a worksheet about Irish immigration to the U.S. I told the teacher this was wrong and inflammatory. She refused to change it, arguing it was her understanding. The principal told her to change it after I threatened to go above his head.

Anonymous wrote:The prior poster is the one who is narrow minded and judgemental. If you don't believe in Catholic morality, then send your daughter elsewhere. The Catholic schools are busting at the seems, full of folks who support natural, pro-creative marriage and believe that every life, from conception to natural death, is worthy of protection. If you don't agree, don't call yourself Catholic or seek to attend Catholic schools.

Yes, indeed.

Dear 9:00 - there are just as many open minded Catholics who are fine with contraception and believe in letting others make their own choices - that does not make us pro-abortion. And I think the OP was saying her daughter is liberal - can be very different from pro-abortion. Please look at Madeira, a great, diverse community where many faiths thrive and co-exist.

Anonymous wrote:If you're a Catholic who attends Mass only twice a year and is pro-Abortion and pro-Gay Marriage, you will feel very uncomfortable at Visi and even the more liberal Stone Ridge. Better to be a non-Catholic who is Pro-Life and supportative of natural Marriage. If you are Pro-Abortion you have effectively excommunicated yourself from the Catholic Church, whether you realize it or not.

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Anonymous wrote:^^Calm down. The pps were saying that "openly advocating" for choice and gay marriage might not go over well. My DD learned to navigate how to answer questions on the religion test (the same way you do on most any test): write the best answer the way the teacher taught and what s/he wants to read. But she didn't start an after school club for Choice.

So basically she has to act one way in school to pass tests but because she isn't like the teachers that teach her, has a different belief outside of school. Sounds like a great school and not confusing to kids at all.

No different than a religious kid in a public school.

Give an example...

My son was campaigning at the 2008 election for the Republican party. It was just for the fun of it (he was in elementary) because nobody else wanted to do it. His BFF chose the libertarian candidate. They actually did not care who won like a normal elementary school kids but decided it did not make sense for nobody to be the Republican or Libertarian candidate.

Kids were really mean about his campaign like how dare he "fill in the blank". My son had to laugh, like he cared. Nobody even knew what a Libertarian was so his BFF got less attacks.

It was fun. We are super liberal Catholics and I like my kids to understand both sides of the coin.

There is absolutely nothing religious about this example. Actually it is a really stupid example of anything. Still waiting how it is hard for a Catholic to go to public school?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not Catholic, and I felt very comfortable there.
Yes, I do think if your daughter is pro abortion then she would probably not feel welcome. Though that's probably true for the Catholic church as a whole.
There is a very big emphasis on Salesian values.

No one is "pro abortion."

No, there are indeed folks here on dcum who are pro abortion.

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