Anonymous
Post 05/07/2014 14:13     Subject: I am so angry at the people who don't vaccinate
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From the CDC:
http://www.cdc.gov/chickenpox/surveillance.html

Most cases of complications and death from chicken pox were previously healthy people.


Did you go crazy about the pig flu too?


Swine flu? You mean the swine flu scare in the 70s? I was awfully young.

I have not "gone crazy", I've gotten my kids vaccinated. And I don;t see whats so crazy about citing the actual data.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2014 11:56     Subject: I am so angry at the people who don't vaccinate
Anonymous wrote:From the CDC:
http://www.cdc.gov/chickenpox/surveillance.html

Most cases of complications and death from chicken pox were previously healthy people.


Did you go crazy about the pig flu too?
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2014 11:04     Subject: I am so angry at the people who don't vaccinate
Anonymous wrote:When I was in kindergarten a boy in my class got measles and encephalitis. He was gone for a month and when he came back to school he was deaf. He was in special ed classes for the rest of the time before we moved away from that school because we would see him at recess with the special ed aides. I remember this because my mom was a teacher in the same school I went to and this kid was in my class and it scared the heck out of me because I had recently had chicken pox which my mom gave me on purpose by taking me to a chicken pox party. This was in 1983


Also grew up with chicken pox parties. Our mothers did this so we'd have immunity as adults, in whom chicken pox can be fatal.

Measles, though, were not treated lightly. Everyone personally knew someone (or their child) who had been permanently damaged (spasticity, deafness, blindness) or had died from measles.

Please vaccinate your children.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2014 09:57     Subject: I am so angry at the people who don't vaccinate
When I was in kindergarten a boy in my class got measles and encephalitis. He was gone for a month and when he came back to school he was deaf. He was in special ed classes for the rest of the time before we moved away from that school because we would see him at recess with the special ed aides. I remember this because my mom was a teacher in the same school I went to and this kid was in my class and it scared the heck out of me because I had recently had chicken pox which my mom gave me on purpose by taking me to a chicken pox party. This was in 1983
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2014 09:43     Subject: I am so angry at the people who don't vaccinate
Anonymous wrote:From the CDC:
http://www.cdc.gov/chickenpox/surveillance.html

Most cases of complications and death from chicken pox were previously healthy people.


My freshman year roommate was hospitalized for 2 weeks with chickenpox when she was 13. She had to be intubated at one point- she had pox blisters internally as well as externally everywhere you can think of.

So yes, it's a really bad disease for some.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2014 09:39     Subject: I am so angry at the people who don't vaccinate


thing is, if this worries you then you have a whole lot more to be worried about. there are hundreds of thousands of adults-probably more- who haven't gotten their boosters. and herd immunity is bullshit

http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/the-herd-immunity-myth-and-how-it-pits-parent-against-parent/


The Healthy Home Economist! She is right up there with Mercola, Mike Adams and Whale.to. Thanks for the laugh.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2014 09:38     Subject: I am so angry at the people who don't vaccinate
From the CDC:
http://www.cdc.gov/chickenpox/surveillance.html

Most cases of complications and death from chicken pox were previously healthy people.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2014 09:36     Subject: I am so angry at the people who don't vaccinate
9:35 again -- adult who developed complications from measles was not immune compromised. You don;t have to be to develop complications or die from these viruses.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2014 09:35     Subject: Re:I am so angry at the people who don't vaccinate
Anonymous wrote:Measles are not a very dangerous disease people. The only problem is, that these days everybody gets vaccinated against everything so doctors don't know, how to treat certain diseases properly. There is a reason why you are not required to vaccinate your children - because it is not necessary as long as you know, what you are doing.


It is required. There are exceptions but for the most part you have to have your children vaccinated to attend school.

I have a relative who has some brain damage as a result of complications from measles. It actually is a very dangerous disease. Perhaps not for most people, but you have no way of knowing in advance if your child will be in the small minority of children who develop complications. People die from measles. People die from chicken pox. Lots of people, actually.

I agree that you are being an idiot. A dangerous one at that.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2014 09:00     Subject: I am so angry at the people who don't vaccinate
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, let's hope she doesn't get chicken pox and pass it to the immune-compromised child on the bus or at the drug store or on the playground. Your child's health can depend on the people you so easily dismiss, the people who get vaccines and provide you and your child the protection of herd immunity. Good thing you live here where those same people have, for generations, gotten vaccines with the result that these diseases have been reduced to the point that you feel safe enough to skip the vaccines. If you lived in Africa, would you feel the same? How about your child's children? How will she feel when she realizes the role you played in the resurgence of preventable childhood diseases that were once thought eradicated in this country?


My children have been fulky vaxed, however are you really screaming that the sky is falling if a kid is not vaxed against chicken pox? If so, you are a very hysterical person in need of some benzos to calm yourself down.


Different poster. Chicken pox usually isn't fatal or super harmful for children. But, being vaccinated against chicken pox does reduce your risk of getting shingles later in life. That alone is reason enough to get the chicken pox vaccine. And occasionally,particularly for adults, chicken pox can be dangerous. And speaking from experience, it is not pleasant. It is one of those childhood memories that is seared in my brain because it wasn't fun. With all of those things combined, I don't understand the resistance to the vaccine. Unless you do think that the vaccine is dangerous or that you have some inside on "Big Pharma" or just lie, to yell "chemicals! Oh no!" And in that case, you are just a moron.


I vaxed my kids for pox and everything else, but no need for hysteria over chicken pox...or really even measles. I don't think many of you even understand measles. Its not like polio. Agsin, bot sides of the "drama" about vaxes and their risk one way or the other are full of mental nutcases.


Nah. One side has science on its side. The other is just nuts. And I imagine you would feel very differently if you had an immunocompromised child.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2014 08:58     Subject: I am so angry at the people who don't vaccinate
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, let's hope she doesn't get chicken pox and pass it to the immune-compromised child on the bus or at the drug store or on the playground. Your child's health can depend on the people you so easily dismiss, the people who get vaccines and provide you and your child the protection of herd immunity. Good thing you live here where those same people have, for generations, gotten vaccines with the result that these diseases have been reduced to the point that you feel safe enough to skip the vaccines. If you lived in Africa, would you feel the same? How about your child's children? How will she feel when she realizes the role you played in the resurgence of preventable childhood diseases that were once thought eradicated in this country?


My children have been fulky vaxed, however are you really screaming that the sky is falling if a kid is not vaxed against chicken pox? If so, you are a very hysterical person in need of some benzos to calm yourself down.


Different poster. Chicken pox usually isn't fatal or super harmful for children. But, being vaccinated against chicken pox does reduce your risk of getting shingles later in life. That alone is reason enough to get the chicken pox vaccine. And occasionally,particularly for adults, chicken pox can be dangerous. And speaking from experience, it is not pleasant. It is one of those childhood memories that is seared in my brain because it wasn't fun. With all of those things combined, I don't understand the resistance to the vaccine. Unless you do think that the vaccine is dangerous or that you have some inside on "Big Pharma" or just lie, to yell "chemicals! Oh no!" And in that case, you are just a moron.


I vaxed my kids for pox and everything else, but no need for hysteria over chicken pox...or really even measles. I don't think many of you even understand measles. Its not like polio. Agsin, bot sides of the "drama" about vaxes and their risk one way or the other are full of mental nutcases.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2014 07:59     Subject: Re:I am so angry at the people who don't vaccinate
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Measles are not a very dangerous disease people. The only problem is, that these days everybody gets vaccinated against everything so doctors don't know, how to treat certain diseases properly. There is a reason why you are not required to vaccinate your children - because it is not necessary as long as you know, what you are doing.


Omg. You are so dumb.


And don't use commas correctly
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2014 07:48     Subject: I am so angry at the people who don't vaccinate
In my view, the threshold for "religious exemption" should be much higher. They should be required to get a letter from a pastor from the established religion saying that they have been a member during the entire vaccination schedule of their children and that the religion disapproves of vaccination. Without this, no public school without proof of vaccination. And for the poor, vaccination should be free at school, or head start or anything similar.

Freedom does not include putting other people at risk ,even when the risk is slight. See speeding in your car, etc.



Anonymous
Post 05/07/2014 06:47     Subject: I am so angry at the people who don't vaccinate
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, let's hope she doesn't get chicken pox and pass it to the immune-compromised child on the bus or at the drug store or on the playground. Your child's health can depend on the people you so easily dismiss, the people who get vaccines and provide you and your child the protection of herd immunity. Good thing you live here where those same people have, for generations, gotten vaccines with the result that these diseases have been reduced to the point that you feel safe enough to skip the vaccines. If you lived in Africa, would you feel the same? How about your child's children? How will she feel when she realizes the role you played in the resurgence of preventable childhood diseases that were once thought eradicated in this country?


My children have been fulky vaxed, however are you really screaming that the sky is falling if a kid is not vaxed against chicken pox? If so, you are a very hysterical person in need of some benzos to calm yourself down.


Different poster. Chicken pox usually isn't fatal or super harmful for children. But, being vaccinated against chicken pox does reduce your risk of getting shingles later in life. That alone is reason enough to get the chicken pox vaccine. And occasionally,particularly for adults, chicken pox can be dangerous. And speaking from experience, it is not pleasant. It is one of those childhood memories that is seared in my brain because it wasn't fun. With all of those things combined, I don't understand the resistance to the vaccine. Unless you do think that the vaccine is dangerous or that you have some inside on "Big Pharma" or just lie, to yell "chemicals! Oh no!" And in that case, you are just a moron.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2014 06:38     Subject: I am so angry at the people who don't vaccinate
Measles has a fatality rate of between 0.3% and 2%. (better treatments for the complications result in the variance in the numbers).

For immunocompromized children the death rate approaches 30%.

But, for the sake of argument, lets use 3%. That would mean that, each year, without immunization (no immunization), about 10,000 to would die per year in the US.

Globally, about 120,000 people die per year from the measles, according to WHO. http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs286/en/.

Measles is very dangerous and very contagious.

As for chickenpox, it is usually mild in children, but severe in adults. When I was younger, parents would have chickenpox "parties" to ensure the kids were exposed at a young age.