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Anonymous wrote:What child would allow this - I can't imagine anything more humiliating than being held back in 6th grade.

If LAX is your world and your best friends are doing it too- AND your parents want you to. Why not?

So strange. My son play LAX and is quite good and his best friends play LAX and my husband coached until my son moved to professional coaches and NEVER EVER would we ever hold him back. I've never heard of it, however I don't live in DC proper, so must be a DC thing. Though we are a LAX family, school comes first. We are very proud of his sports accomplishments, but even more proud of his academic accomplishments.

No, it's a suburban thing. None of the schools mentioned in the article are in "DC proper."

Anonymous wrote:It's not limited to lacrosse. Quick example is Johnny Manzeil an almost 22 year old college sophomore.

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Anonymous wrote:I red-shirted for similar reasons but at a much younger age. Schools in VA place children in grades not by birth year, but by age in September. Keeping my LO on the state's track would have made her the youngest every year. Not fair to her, so I kept her back to give her an advantage. I have no guilt or shame.

Both my kids are youngest in their class every year, too - summer babies. They are at above grade level for reading and math. DS is smallest in his class, but extremely bright. I could not imagine how bored he'd be if I held him back. He got into GT. Yes, he has some physical disadvantages in sports, but life is not fair. I am not going to manipulate his life to make it fair for him. I tell him some kids are going to be better than others in some things, like he is better in academics than most of his peers. He's not perfect and will not excel in every single thing he does. But we still encourage him to try sports and compete with his grade level peers. He is probably going to be one of those kids who are picked last for sports. Yes, I feel bad for him, but like I said, I will not remove every obstacle in life for him -- now that would be unfair to him.

My take on redshirting to be "fair" is if every parent felt that way, then all of our kids would start K at 7 or 8 because we'd just keep one uping each other and wanting the "best" for our kids.

You do know everything you wrote has nothing to do with the subject of,the thread, right? In a similar vein, I had oatmeal for breakfast and my favorite color is green. Didn't that add a lot to the topic of lacrosse and holding back middle school kids? No?

You are wrong. Her post is clearly relevant. You may not like what she had to say (lemme guess - you redshirted your kid) but that doesn't make her post irrelevant.

I get thread drift, but both PPs were so clearly chomping at the bit to just talk to someone, ANYone, about their solid-in-math kids, who are young for their grades because they didn't hold them back at age 5.

If this were now simple thread drift, and we're just going where the subject takes us naturally, I would now tell you that my daughter recently won a national math prize and she, too, is the typical age for her grade. I just want the best for her. Her name starts with an "L" and so does "lacrosse," which is what the article was about on page one.

I really want anonymous people to validate my choice to encourage my daughter's interests in math. Let's talk about math some more, shall we? Or how girls get the short shrift in mathematics programs in universities.

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Anonymous wrote:I red-shirted for similar reasons but at a much younger age. Schools in VA place children in grades not by birth year, but by age in September. Keeping my LO on the state's track would have made her the youngest every year. Not fair to her, so I kept her back to give her an advantage. I have no guilt or shame.

Both my kids are youngest in their class every year, too - summer babies. They are at above grade level for reading and math. DS is smallest in his class, but extremely bright. I could not imagine how bored he'd be if I held him back. He got into GT. Yes, he has some physical disadvantages in sports, but life is not fair. I am not going to manipulate his life to make it fair for him. I tell him some kids are going to be better than others in some things, like he is better in academics than most of his peers. He's not perfect and will not excel in every single thing he does. But we still encourage him to try sports and compete with his grade level peers. He is probably going to be one of those kids who are picked last for sports. Yes, I feel bad for him, but like I said, I will not remove every obstacle in life for him -- now that would be unfair to him.

My take on redshirting to be "fair" is if every parent felt that way, then all of our kids would start K at 7 or 8 because we'd just keep one uping each other and wanting the "best" for our kids.

You do know everything you wrote has nothing to do with the subject of,the thread, right? In a similar vein, I had oatmeal for breakfast and my favorite color is green. Didn't that add a lot to the topic of lacrosse and holding back middle school kids? No?

You are wrong. Her post is clearly relevant. You may not like what she had to say (lemme guess - you redshirted your kid) but that doesn't make her post irrelevant.

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Anonymous wrote:I red-shirted for similar reasons but at a much younger age. Schools in VA place children in grades not by birth year, but by age in September. Keeping my LO on the state's track would have made her the youngest every year. Not fair to her, so I kept her back to give her an advantage. I have no guilt or shame.

Both my kids are youngest in their class every year, too - summer babies. They are at above grade level for reading and math. DS is smallest in his class, but extremely bright. I could not imagine how bored he'd be if I held him back. He got into GT. Yes, he has some physical disadvantages in sports, but life is not fair. I am not going to manipulate his life to make it fair for him. I tell him some kids are going to be better than others in some things, like he is better in academics than most of his peers. He's not perfect and will not excel in every single thing he does. But we still encourage him to try sports and compete with his grade level peers. He is probably going to be one of those kids who are picked last for sports. Yes, I feel bad for him, but like I said, I will not remove every obstacle in life for him -- now that would be unfair to him.

My take on redshirting to be "fair" is if every parent felt that way, then all of our kids would start K at 7 or 8 because we'd just keep one uping each other and wanting the "best" for our kids.

You do know everything you wrote has nothing to do with the subject of,the thread, right? In a similar vein, I had oatmeal for breakfast and my favorite color is green. Didn't that add a lot to the topic of lacrosse and holding back middle school kids? No?

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Anonymous wrote:I red-shirted for similar reasons but at a much younger age. Schools in VA place children in grades not by birth year, but by age in September. Keeping my LO on the state's track would have made her the youngest every year. Not fair to her, so I kept her back to give her an advantage. I have no guilt or shame.

Both my kids are youngest in their class every year, too - summer babies. They are at above grade level for reading and math. DS is smallest in his class, but extremely bright. I could not imagine how bored he'd be if I held him back. He got into GT. Yes, he has some physical disadvantages in sports, but life is not fair. I am not going to manipulate his life to make it fair for him. I tell him some kids are going to be better than others in some things, like he is better in academics than most of his peers. He's not perfect and will not excel in every single thing he does. But we still encourage him to try sports and compete with his grade level peers. He is probably going to be one of those kids who are picked last for sports. Yes, I feel bad for him, but like I said, I will not remove every obstacle in life for him -- now that would be unfair to him.

My take on redshirting to be "fair" is if every parent felt that way, then all of our kids would start K at 7 or 8 because we'd just keep one uping each other and wanting the "best" for our kids.

You do know everything you wrote has nothing to do with the subject of,the thread, right? In a similar vein, I had oatmeal for breakfast and my favorite color is green. Didn't that add a lot to the topic of lacrosse and holding back middle school kids? No?

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Anonymous wrote:I red-shirted for similar reasons but at a much younger age. Schools in VA place children in grades not by birth year, but by age in September. Keeping my LO on the state's track would have made her the youngest every year. Not fair to her, so I kept her back to give her an advantage. I have no guilt or shame.

Both my kids are youngest in their class every year, too - summer babies. They are at above grade level for reading and math. DS is smallest in his class, but extremely bright. I could not imagine how bored he'd be if I held him back. He got into GT. Yes, he has some physical disadvantages in sports, but life is not fair. I am not going to manipulate his life to make it fair for him. I tell him some kids are going to be better than others in some things, like he is better in academics than most of his peers. He's not perfect and will not excel in every single thing he does. But we still encourage him to try sports and compete with his grade level peers. He is probably going to be one of those kids who are picked last for sports. Yes, I feel bad for him, but like I said, I will not remove every obstacle in life for him -- now that would be unfair to him.

My take on redshirting to be "fair" is if every parent felt that way, then all of our kids would start K at 7 or 8 because we'd just keep one uping each other and wanting the "best" for our kids.

You do know everything you wrote has nothing to do with the subject of,the thread, right? In a similar vein, I had oatmeal for breakfast and my favorite color is green. Didn't that add a lot to the topic of lacrosse and holding back middle school kids? No?

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Anonymous wrote:What child would allow this - I can't imagine anything more humiliating than being held back in 6th grade.

If LAX is your world and your best friends are doing it too- AND your parents want you to. Why not?

So strange. My son play LAX and is quite good and his best friends play LAX and my husband coached until my son moved to professional coaches and NEVER EVER would we ever hold him back. I've never heard of it, however I don't live in DC proper, so must be a DC thing. Though we are a LAX family, school comes first. We are very proud of his sports accomplishments, but even more proud of his academic accomplishments.

No, it's a suburban thing. None of the schools mentioned in the article are in "DC proper."

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Anonymous wrote:What child would allow this - I can't imagine anything more humiliating than being held back in 6th grade.

If LAX is your world and your best friends are doing it too- AND your parents want you to. Why not?

So strange. My son play LAX and is quite good and his best friends play LAX and my husband coached until my son moved to professional coaches and NEVER EVER would we ever hold him back. I've never heard of it, however I don't live in DC proper, so must be a DC thing. Though we are a LAX family, school comes first. We are very proud of his sports accomplishments, but even more proud of his academic accomplishments.

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Anonymous wrote:This article is a joke. Redshirting is common at all area privates for boys -- the schools encourage it and it isn't for lacrosse. However, it isn't occurring at the middle school level, it occurs at the kindergarten level. Notice that the article never mentions when the "redshirting" actually occurs, it just (falsely) implies that it is middle or high school.

You aren't quite understanding -- these boys are DOUBLE held back. Once when they're 5.25, meaning they begin school st age 6, and then again when they're in middle school. So they are almost 2 full years (but not quite) older than some of the girls in their grade at the time of graduation.

They only do this if it does not interfere with eligibility. They have to be 18 on the 1st day of school. So they can turn 19 during the school year.

So enter K as a 5 yo, you eventually enter 12th as a 17 yo. if they redshirt once they are 18 but if they redshirt twice they are 19 ... so that does not work. But for kids that are in 9th right now started school if they were 5 by November 1st (in MoCo). So they are technically redshirted twice if they are born in September or October.

My nephew with an August Bday graduated HS at 17 and dominated Lacrosse. He got both an academic and a Lacrosse scholarship.

You got it or you don't. Let those big dummies hang back.

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Anonymous wrote:I red-shirted for similar reasons but at a much younger age. Schools in VA place children in grades not by birth year, but by age in September. Keeping my LO on the state's track would have made her the youngest every year. Not fair to her, so I kept her back to give her an advantage. I have no guilt or shame.

Both my kids are youngest in their class every year, too - summer babies. They are at above grade level for reading and math. DS is smallest in his class, but extremely bright. I could not imagine how bored he'd be if I held him back. He got into GT. Yes, he has some physical disadvantages in sports, but life is not fair. I am not going to manipulate his life to make it fair for him. I tell him some kids are going to be better than others in some things, like he is better in academics than most of his peers. He's not perfect and will not excel in every single thing he does. But we still encourage him to try sports and compete with his grade level peers. He is probably going to be one of those kids who are picked last for sports. Yes, I feel bad for him, but like I said, I will not remove every obstacle in life for him -- now that would be unfair to him.

My take on redshirting to be "fair" is if every parent felt that way, then all of our kids would start K at 7 or 8 because we'd just keep one uping each other and wanting the "best" for our kids.

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Anonymous wrote:This article is a joke. Redshirting is common at all area privates for boys -- the schools encourage it and it isn't for lacrosse. However, it isn't occurring at the middle school level, it occurs at the kindergarten level. Notice that the article never mentions when the "redshirting" actually occurs, it just (falsely) implies that it is middle or high school.

You aren't quite understanding -- these boys are DOUBLE held back. Once when they're 5.25, meaning they begin school st age 6, and then again when they're in middle school. So they are almost 2 full years (but not quite) older than some of the girls in their grade at the time of graduation.

They only do this if it does not interfere with eligibility. They have to be 18 on the 1st day of school. So they can turn 19 during the school year.

So enter K as a 5 yo, you eventually enter 12th as a 17 yo. if they redshirt once they are 18 but if they redshirt twice they are 19 ... so that does not work. But for kids that are in 9th right now started school if they were 5 by November 1st (in MoCo). So they are technically redshirted twice if they are born in September or October.