I think they should get rid of honors, AP, and IB. None of those are necessary.

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Anonymous wrote:Increase the minimum threshold for admission test scores and watch that 18% drop fast.

That is a fact!

I can't believe this hasn't already been done, what with all of the criticisms surrounding AAP these days. Where is the common sense, FCPS?

Because the criticism primarily goes the pother way -- not enough blacks and Hispanics in the program. So if they tightened up the test score requirements, you'd have even fewer black and Hispanics, and even more criticism.

Bingo!

Hence the young scholars program this is the main purpose of it. Not that they don't deserve the opportunity but otherwise they would be looked over. Many children are looked over of all ethnicities this is why the entire program needs a major overhaul. FCPS keeps putting patches to parent please and the whole program is a mucked up mess! They need to strip it down to the top 1% only and start over.

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Anonymous wrote:Increase the minimum threshold for admission test scores and watch that 18% drop fast.

That is a fact!

I can't believe this hasn't already been done, what with all of the criticisms surrounding AAP these days. Where is the common sense, FCPS?

Because the criticism primarily goes the pother way -- not enough blacks and Hispanics in the program. So if they tightened up the test score requirements, you'd have even fewer black and Hispanics, and even more criticism.

Bingo!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Increase the minimum threshold for admission test scores and watch that 18% drop fast.

That is a fact!

I can't believe this hasn't already been done, what with all of the criticisms surrounding AAP these days. Where is the common sense, FCPS?

Because the criticism primarily goes the pother way -- not enough blacks and Hispanics in the program. So if they tightened up the test score requirements, you'd have even fewer black and Hispanics, and even more criticism.

11:24, please explain in detail how the brightest student benefits from this range you speak of.

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Anonymous wrote:I know in my child's advanced math 7 class (not even algebra I) there are 2 AAP center educated student's one who is failing and one who is barely average. So is the best and the brightest one who only excels in one subject but fails the rest or one who is well rounded (expected for college admittance)?

^ I think occasionally the AAP selection committee gets it wrong, as they did with those two students. I'm sure it happens.
If you have read these AAP threads awhile you will see the efforts some parents go to get their kids in AAP whether they should be in there or not.

Yes but I believe it is happening far more than occasionaly.

It happens ALL. THE. TIME. That's why it makes no sense for a child to qualify for AAP based on only one high-ish subset test score. There are tons of kids who are advanced in one particular area, but not in others. Kids who are truly gifted are way ahead in all areas. FCPS needs to go back to using a cumulative qualifying score, not just one subset. That would weed out a huge percentage of kids who shouldn't be in AAP.

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Anonymous wrote:Increase the minimum threshold for admission test scores and watch that 18% drop fast.

That is a fact!

I can't believe this hasn't already been done, what with all of the criticisms surrounding AAP these days. Where is the common sense, FCPS?

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Anonymous wrote:I know in my child's advanced math 7 class (not even algebra I) there are 2 AAP center educated student's one who is failing and one who is barely average. So is the best and the brightest one who only excels in one subject but fails the rest or one who is well rounded (expected for college admittance)?

^ I think occasionally the AAP selection committee gets it wrong, as they did with those two students. I'm sure it happens.
If you have read these AAP threads awhile you will see the efforts some parents go to get their kids in AAP whether they should be in there or not.

Yes but I believe it is happening far more than occasionaly.

Anonymous wrote:I know in my child's advanced math 7 class (not even algebra I) there are 2 AAP center educated student's one who is failing and one who is barely average. So is the best and the brightest one who only excels in one subject but fails the rest or one who is well rounded (expected for college admittance)?

^ I think occasionally the AAP selection committee gets it wrong, as they did with those two students. I'm sure it happens.
If you have read these AAP threads awhile you will see the efforts some parents go to get their kids in AAP whether they should be in there or not.

I know in my child's advanced math 7 class (not even algebra I) there are 2 AAP center educated student's one who is failing and one who is barely average. So is the best and the brightest one who only excels in one subject but fails the rest or one who is well rounded (expected for college admittance)?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know about all schools, but in DC's school, there are teachers who have recommended children not continue in AAP. One of them even did this mid-year which I think is unfair to make them switch classes. I'd rather see the child finish the year out and then go back to general ed the following year.

Usually the 2E kid is asked to leave as the teacher isn't really certified in GT behaviors to begin with. Also, a teacher can ask anything, but a child cannot be forced out of AAP. Once a child is in, they are in!

I have multiple students who failed their 7th grade sol in my honors class. Parents want them in honors though.

Anonymous wrote:I don't know about all schools, but in DC's school, there are teachers who have recommended children not continue in AAP. One of them even did this mid-year which I think is unfair to make them switch classes. I'd rather see the child finish the year out and then go back to general ed the following year.

Usually the 2E kid is asked to leave as the teacher isn't really certified in GT behaviors to begin with. Also, a teacher can ask anything, but a child cannot be forced out of AAP. Once a child is in, they are in!

What I said was that the kids in AAP benefit greatly from there being a range of kids in there, from those who are there due to hard work to tuose students who test off the charts. In my opinion the kids who test off the chart benefit the most from having the other kids in AAP.

I think the program would not be as beneficial if it was limited to only the kids who are at the very, very top.

I agree with you 100%. I think it's very interesting someone as wise as you even bothers with the DCUM forum but I just wanted to tell you I appreciate hearing your viewpoint.

Anonymous wrote:Increase the minimum threshold for admission test scores and watch that 18% drop fast.

That is a fact!

Increase the minimum threshold for admission test scores and watch that 18% drop fast.