Anonymous
Post 04/22/2014 22:37     Subject: Re:Elsa vs. Anna
After reading this thread, I asked my 4 year old DD which was her favorite. Answer: "Elsa because when she sings Let It Go she makes that beautiful sparkly dress and castle." Noticed that she thought of the dress first before the ice crystal palace. Gah.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2014 22:34     Subject: Elsa vs. Anna
Ugh, my kindergartener told her young brother (in a snooty voice), "Elsa is more popular than Anna." I wanted to bang my head against the countertop, but instead engaged her in a conversation. Turns out she heard it from a friend at school, didn't really know what popular meant and then we talked about the qualities of both characters. She still prefers Elsa (I think it is the dress and blond hair thing), but doesn't scoff at her brother's preference for Anna. Unbelievable (yet not) how early this stuff starts.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2014 21:57     Subject: Elsa vs. Anna
Hated Disney before this flic. Me = Feminist. This film changed my Disney boycott. This film empowered little girls. You would have to have little girls to see the transformation. Both identify with Elsa.

Why Elsa? She's alpha. Surely, DCUM can understand.
































Anonymous
Post 04/22/2014 21:27     Subject: Re:Elsa vs. Anna
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's not going to be a popular answer, but I think my DD (age 4) and her friends like Elsa because of that sexy/beautiful "Let It Go" transformation. Even though they wouldn't be able to put it into words, when she lets down her hair and gets the sparkly dress (with the very high slit), that is when she takes the lead for them... and aside from the otherwise ok message of the movie, it does bug me that Disney had to do that transformation as such a sexy one.


Yeah. Did you see her hips when she walked? That was almost twerking!


And the agenda of sexualizing young girls marches on...


I saw or heard a show once where they were discussing the process of making an animated movie. They record video of the actors doing the voices so they can emulate their expressions in the animated characters as well. When Elsa does her hip sway thing, I don't necessarily see Elsa as much as I see Idina Menzel commanding an audience with her strut.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2014 21:14     Subject: Elsa vs. Anna
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People, you are overthinking it. Elsa has magical powers. Who doesn't want magical powers?


I think this is a part of it. DD2 (and therefore, as the younger sister, "Anna") thinks that they should make another Frozen movie in which Anna has the powers instead of Elsa.


Exactly! That should be the sequel!
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2014 21:10     Subject: Elsa vs. Anna
Anonymous wrote:My 5-year-old likes Anna better, OP. Anna is the hero of the story. Elsa makes me really, really sad.

A Disney character actually makes you sad? How old are YOU? Time to detach and come back to reality.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2014 21:09     Subject: Elsa vs. Anna
Anna definitely. Elsa strikes me as matronly.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2014 21:07     Subject: Elsa vs. Anna
My 5-year-old likes Anna better, OP. Anna is the hero of the story. Elsa makes me really, really sad.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2014 20:24     Subject: Elsa vs. Anna
I thought this was a name thread.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2014 20:22     Subject: Elsa vs. Anna
Aren't we now?
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2014 17:13     Subject: Elsa vs. Anna
Anonymous wrote:In 20 years the Elsa lovers will be barristas at Starbucks and the Anna lovers will be folding sweaters at The Gap.
The girls whose mother's enusred they learned something useful will be running the world.


And presumably these women "running the world" will also be hanging out on DCUM?
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2014 17:11     Subject: Elsa vs. Anna
Anonymous wrote:People, you are overthinking it. Elsa has magical powers. Who doesn't want magical powers?


I think this is a part of it. DD2 (and therefore, as the younger sister, "Anna") thinks that they should make another Frozen movie in which Anna has the powers instead of Elsa.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2014 17:09     Subject: Elsa vs. Anna
Anonymous wrote:In 20 years the Elsa lovers will be barristas at Starbucks and the Anna lovers will be folding sweaters at The Gap.
The girls whose mother's enusred they learned something useful will be running the world.


I do believe it is possible to both let your child enjoy age-appropriate cartoons AND teach her important skills and knowledge (or help ensure her school to do so). You must be a real fun parent, PP!
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2014 17:06     Subject: Elsa vs. Anna
Anonymous wrote:I cringed the first time I saw the movie and the way Elsa moved her hips.
But after 20+ viewings, I now see it as part of her becoming free to express
herself. As an adult woman, I take it in a sexual context. My 4 year old
and 7 year old boys? No - they think she's empowered. They love singing the
song. Plus, Idina Menzel has an INCREDIBLE voice. I love the song. And I
love the dress.
But no, not everyone love Elsa more than Anna.
As another poster commented, Elsa was never taught how to control her
powers. He father thought closing her in and making her afraid of hurting
people was the way. It wasn't. She was in no way evil - she was terrified
of hurting the one she loved - Anna. She shut Anna out because she was
afraid of herself. In turn, Anna felt unloved and was willing to marry the
first guy she met... If only the King had taught Elsa instead of making her
fear her own powers and hold it all in.
It would have been so great if Anna had magical powers that she never knew
and they were revealed at the end.

Oh, the problems of Disney!


+1 This is a girl who has been afraid of touch for the better part of her life. As such, she wore gloves and kept the majority of her skin hidden as a way of trying to keep everything inside. Deciding to let it go means allowing her powers to show and her physical self to be free. For the first time she's choosing an outfit based on what she likes rather than what she feels she needs to wear. I think it's very telling that she makes that transformation when no one else is around. She changes for herself, not for anyone else, and I personally think that's very empowering.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2014 17:04     Subject: Elsa vs. Anna
Anonymous wrote:In 20 years the Elsa lovers will be barristas at Starbucks and the Anna lovers will be folding sweaters at The Gap.
The girls whose mother's enusred they learned something useful will be running the world.


I'm not follwing.