Anonymous
Post 04/08/2014 21:54     Subject: If you had an abortion you really didn't want to have

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Disgusting. I would not support the murder of a baby.

We sit silently while innocent children are slaughtered and then wonder why people have no respect for human life when someone beats up an old person or runs over a child and keeps driving.

Stop patting yourself on the back OP. You are a terrible friend and a sorry excuse for a human being.


Did it ever occur to you that perhaps the world would be a better place if abortion were more accessible to people who shouldn't be raising children -- you know, the people whose neglected children grow up to beat up the elderly and run children over with cars?


No because I refuse to justify ripping up babies by their limbs or burning them alive with acid.

The world would be a better place if people were not so bloodthirsty, selfish, and lacking in compassion and basic humanity.

I imagine if must be hard if you feel pressured to pay someone to kill your baby, but it's probably even harder to die such a disgusting death.

And to the PP- there is nothing "troll-like" about calling out the BS of the OP.


OP here. I did not rip the microscopic limbs from any embryos today, just provided transportation, a shoulder to lean on and dinner for a friend who needed it on one the hardest days of her life. If that makes me a monster, I can only imagine what kind of friend you are. If you truly believe my friend's 23 day embryo suffered a gruesome death today, perhaps you should be praying for their soul instead of spewing your insults and hatred in a thread that was created with the goal of supporting a would-be mother in her grief.


OP, the thing is that normal human beings realize that you don't get to kill your child and get support over your "grief". I'll save my support for mothers who don't put out hits on their own children. You are just as bad as the assassin by sitting there acting like it was okay. You are no better than the passenger of a hit and run who chooses to say nothing. I know you don't want to hear that. You can't even tell people it's wrong to kill their child so of course you can't tell "friends" that they are wrong for throwing a pity party for the murdering mom.

If that makes you feel better to dehumanize the baby by calling it an embryo then I understand that you have to do what you have to do to cope with the horrible person you are. But if that is the case, you should be telling me to pray for your soul, not the soul of an innocent child.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2014 21:45     Subject: If you had an abortion you really didn't want to have

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Disgusting. I would not support the murder of a baby.

We sit silently while innocent children are slaughtered and then wonder why people have no respect for human life when someone beats up an old person or runs over a child and keeps driving.

Stop patting yourself on the back OP. You are a terrible friend and a sorry excuse for a human being.


Did it ever occur to you that perhaps the world would be a better place if abortion were more accessible to people who shouldn't be raising children -- you know, the people whose neglected children grow up to beat up the elderly and run children over with cars?


No because I refuse to justify ripping up babies by their limbs or burning them alive with acid.

The world would be a better place if people were not so bloodthirsty, selfish, and lacking in compassion and basic humanity.

I imagine if must be hard if you feel pressured to pay someone to kill your baby, but it's probably even harder to die such a disgusting death.

And to the PP- there is nothing "troll-like" about calling out the BS of the OP.


OP here. I did not rip the microscopic limbs from any embryos today, just provided transportation, a shoulder to lean on and dinner for a friend who needed it on one the hardest days of her life. If that makes me a monster, I can only imagine what kind of friend you are. If you truly believe my friend's 23 day embryo suffered a gruesome death today, perhaps you should be praying for their soul instead of spewing your insults and hatred in a thread that was created with the goal of supporting a would-be mother in her grief.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2014 21:43     Subject: If you had an abortion you really didn't want to have

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Disgusting. I would not support the murder of a baby.

We sit silently while innocent children are slaughtered and then wonder why people have no respect for human life when someone beats up an old person or runs over a child and keeps driving.

Stop patting yourself on the back OP. You are a terrible friend and a sorry excuse for a human being.


Did it ever occur to you that perhaps the world would be a better place if abortion were more accessible to people who shouldn't be raising children -- you know, the people whose neglected children grow up to beat up the elderly and run children over with cars?


No because I refuse to justify ripping up babies by their limbs or burning them alive with acid.

The world would be a better place if people were not so bloodthirsty, selfish, and lacking in compassion and basic humanity.

I imagine if must be hard if you feel pressured to pay someone to kill your baby, but it's probably even harder to die such a disgusting death.

And to the PP- there is nothing "troll-like" about calling out the BS of the OP.


I realize I am now giving you a dish of troll kibble, but get. fucking. educated. I'm embarrassed for you at your lack of knowledge on this matter. Guttmacher is a great place to start, as is NARAL. You cannot trust what Operation Rescue is telling you, you can't.


Please do educate me on how babies are killed and disposed of these days.

Has technology advanced so much that they just evaporate into air? That sure is a lot better than sucking them into a vacuum, cutting them into pieces, burning them with saline, or using forceps to twist them to their death. But it's still murder.

But since you are so educated, please do tell me about these new death techniques. I'd hate to search and find disgusting pictures of tortured babies.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2014 21:39     Subject: If you had an abortion you really didn't want to have

Anonymous wrote:I wish someone would have shown me the other alternatives. Told me I didn't have to do this and helped me find resources. I was 18, my parents were not supportive. My boyfriend (at the time) was not supportive. I had $75 to my name (boyfriend paid for the abortion) and had just started a new job at a grocery store bagging groceries. I happened to have a Saturday off (pretty rare in the grocery business for a new hire) and worked just a few hours Friday morning, so I was able to schedule the procedure for Friday afternoon...then it was back to work on Sunday.


You knew there were alternatives. What you wanted someone to tell you was it was ok to be a parent with no financial, emotional, or parenting resources and to raise your child in poverty. It's tough to find an adult who will tell you that.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2014 21:37     Subject: If you had an abortion you really didn't want to have

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Disgusting. I would not support the murder of a baby.

We sit silently while innocent children are slaughtered and then wonder why people have no respect for human life when someone beats up an old person or runs over a child and keeps driving.

Stop patting yourself on the back OP. You are a terrible friend and a sorry excuse for a human being.


Did it ever occur to you that perhaps the world would be a better place if abortion were more accessible to people who shouldn't be raising children -- you know, the people whose neglected children grow up to beat up the elderly and run children over with cars?


No because I refuse to justify ripping up babies by their limbs or burning them alive with acid.

The world would be a better place if people were not so bloodthirsty, selfish, and lacking in compassion and basic humanity.

I imagine if must be hard if you feel pressured to pay someone to kill your baby, but it's probably even harder to die such a disgusting death.

And to the PP- there is nothing "troll-like" about calling out the BS of the OP.


I realize I am now giving you a dish of troll kibble, but get. fucking. educated. I'm embarrassed for you at your lack of knowledge on this matter. Guttmacher is a great place to start, as is NARAL. You cannot trust what Operation Rescue is telling you, you can't.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2014 21:22     Subject: If you had an abortion you really didn't want to have

OP, you sound like a really good friend. I'm sure your friend will need support going forward, and maybe some home cooked comfort food wouldn't be amiss. I hope your friend and her spouse are ok.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2014 20:56     Subject: If you had an abortion you really didn't want to have

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Disgusting. I would not support the murder of a baby.

We sit silently while innocent children are slaughtered and then wonder why people have no respect for human life when someone beats up an old person or runs over a child and keeps driving.

Stop patting yourself on the back OP. You are a terrible friend and a sorry excuse for a human being.


Did it ever occur to you that perhaps the world would be a better place if abortion were more accessible to people who shouldn't be raising children -- you know, the people whose neglected children grow up to beat up the elderly and run children over with cars?


No because I refuse to justify ripping up babies by their limbs or burning them alive with acid.

The world would be a better place if people were not so bloodthirsty, selfish, and lacking in compassion and basic humanity.

I imagine if must be hard if you feel pressured to pay someone to kill your baby, but it's probably even harder to die such a disgusting death.

And to the PP- there is nothing "troll-like" about calling out the BS of the OP.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2014 20:55     Subject: If you had an abortion you really didn't want to have

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Disgusting. I would not support the murder of a baby.

We sit silently while innocent children are slaughtered and then wonder why people have no respect for human life when someone beats up an old person or runs over a child and keeps driving.

Stop patting yourself on the back OP. You are a terrible friend and a sorry excuse for a human being.


Did it ever occur to you that perhaps the world would be a better place if abortion were more accessible to people who shouldn't be raising children -- you know, the people whose neglected children grow up to beat up the elderly and run children over with cars?

More accessible? Would you like an abortion room behind every gas station?


Ideally birth control would be more accessible so that abortions weren't as necessary, but if safe gas station abortions could be had and it would mean fewer unwanted children beating up old ladies and running over children, sure, why not?


What are you, Minority Report? There are a lot of pernicious assumptions going in to thinking you know which babies should die.


It sounds to me like PP is for letting women make decisions regarding their own futures, not pre-criming social engineering. Most abortions occur in the first trimester, and however you feel about "life," it is not a baby at that stage.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2014 20:52     Subject: If you had an abortion you really didn't want to have

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Disgusting. I would not support the murder of a baby.

We sit silently while innocent children are slaughtered and then wonder why people have no respect for human life when someone beats up an old person or runs over a child and keeps driving.

Stop patting yourself on the back OP. You are a terrible friend and a sorry excuse for a human being.


Did it ever occur to you that perhaps the world would be a better place if abortion were more accessible to people who shouldn't be raising children -- you know, the people whose neglected children grow up to beat up the elderly and run children over with cars?

More accessible? Would you like an abortion room behind every gas station?


I find it really, really helpful to get educated by more than just my echo-chamber before shooting my mouth off. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/gpr/15/1/gpr150114.html
Putting abortion out of reach does not stop it, it makes it deadly for the woman.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2014 20:51     Subject: If you had an abortion you really didn't want to have

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Disgusting. I would not support the murder of a baby.

We sit silently while innocent children are slaughtered and then wonder why people have no respect for human life when someone beats up an old person or runs over a child and keeps driving.

Stop patting yourself on the back OP. You are a terrible friend and a sorry excuse for a human being.


Did it ever occur to you that perhaps the world would be a better place if abortion were more accessible to people who shouldn't be raising children -- you know, the people whose neglected children grow up to beat up the elderly and run children over with cars?

More accessible? Would you like an abortion room behind every gas station?


Ideally birth control would be more accessible so that abortions weren't as necessary, but if safe gas station abortions could be had and it would mean fewer unwanted children beating up old ladies and running over children, sure, why not?


What are you, Minority Report? There are a lot of pernicious assumptions going in to thinking you know which babies should die.


Why yes, yes I am.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2014 20:47     Subject: If you had an abortion you really didn't want to have

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Disgusting. I would not support the murder of a baby.

We sit silently while innocent children are slaughtered and then wonder why people have no respect for human life when someone beats up an old person or runs over a child and keeps driving.

Stop patting yourself on the back OP. You are a terrible friend and a sorry excuse for a human being.


Did it ever occur to you that perhaps the world would be a better place if abortion were more accessible to people who shouldn't be raising children -- you know, the people whose neglected children grow up to beat up the elderly and run children over with cars?

More accessible? Would you like an abortion room behind every gas station?


Ideally birth control would be more accessible so that abortions weren't as necessary, but if safe gas station abortions could be had and it would mean fewer unwanted children beating up old ladies and running over children, sure, why not?


What are you, Minority Report? There are a lot of pernicious assumptions going in to thinking you know which babies should die.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2014 20:47     Subject: If you had an abortion you really didn't want to have

OP, thank you for supporting your friend!
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2014 20:46     Subject: If you had an abortion you really didn't want to have

Anonymous wrote:OP here. As painful as the situation is, I personally think she is making the right choice for herself, for the fetus in question, and for her future family. I would fully support her if she thought there was another way, but it is her choice -- one she has agonized over -- and it is not my place to talk her out of it.

We are at the appointment right now. I have just been keeping quiet because I feel like if I say anything or try to give her a hug or hold her hand she will burst into tears.


There are tough decisions, choices that we make in life that we may never feel good about. People have to make them every day, this is just one example of that.

Just be there for her. That's all you can do. There are no right words...

Anonymous
Post 04/08/2014 20:45     Subject: If you had an abortion you really didn't want to have

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Disgusting. I would not support the murder of a baby.

We sit silently while innocent children are slaughtered and then wonder why people have no respect for human life when someone beats up an old person or runs over a child and keeps driving.

Stop patting yourself on the back OP. You are a terrible friend and a sorry excuse for a human being.


Did it ever occur to you that perhaps the world would be a better place if abortion were more accessible to people who shouldn't be raising children -- you know, the people whose neglected children grow up to beat up the elderly and run children over with cars?

More accessible? Would you like an abortion room behind every gas station?


Ideally birth control would be more accessible so that abortions weren't as necessary, but if safe gas station abortions could be had and it would mean fewer unwanted children beating up old ladies and running over children, sure, why not?
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2014 20:41     Subject: If you had an abortion you really didn't want to have

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Disgusting. I would not support the murder of a baby.

We sit silently while innocent children are slaughtered and then wonder why people have no respect for human life when someone beats up an old person or runs over a child and keeps driving.

Stop patting yourself on the back OP. You are a terrible friend and a sorry excuse for a human being.


Did it ever occur to you that perhaps the world would be a better place if abortion were more accessible to people who shouldn't be raising children -- you know, the people whose neglected children grow up to beat up the elderly and run children over with cars?

More accessible? Would you like an abortion room behind every gas station?