Anonymous
Post 03/26/2014 19:03     Subject: Pet peeve - tipping at nail salon (anywhere I guess)

But WHY can't I tip on a credit card?

Seems shady to me, frankly.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2014 19:00     Subject: Pet peeve - tipping at nail salon (anywhere I guess)

Anonymous wrote:I usually tip $8-10 for a pedicure. You're cheap, OP.


On a $25 pedicure?

You are way overtipping.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2014 18:56     Subject: Re:Pet peeve - tipping at nail salon (anywhere I guess)

You should always expect to tip cash for a pedicure; plenty of places request or require that.

If you wanted dollar bills, specify how you want your change back.

I would have left $5 without thinking twice.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2014 18:53     Subject: Pet peeve - tipping at nail salon (anywhere I guess)

NP. I tend to tip 20% across the board for beauty services. Is this now regarded as cheap?
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2014 18:43     Subject: Re:Pet peeve - tipping at nail salon (anywhere I guess)

Thank you ^^^

I thought I was going crazy!
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2014 18:25     Subject: Re:Pet peeve - tipping at nail salon (anywhere I guess)

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Wow.

Okay $4 tip for $25 service is 16%. Sorry, that is not cheap.
Let's get some things straight. Beauty services are a lot different than food industry (waiters, bartenders, etc). Waiters get a very low wage ($2-3/hour) as the expectation is that they will make a great deal on their tips. As a waitress, if I had a $1,000 food tab at end of night, it's fair to assume if make $200 that night before I tip out my busboys, cooks. When I go out to eat, I tip anywhere from 22-30% (unless it's carryout) or 20-28% pre-tax. I have had great service and even gone as high as 40% before.

To PP, I don't use Peapod.

Beauty services work differently. My sister does hair. She has done booth rentals, commission splits and situations where salons pay you per service (they charge $80 to haircut and give you $50). She says a good tip is anywhere from 10-20% (but she usually gets 10-15). I am from CA.

For beauty, you show appreciation by a decent tip (not as high as food), repeat business and referrals. Agree with the PPs that poor service shouldn't expect the high range of tip, yet alone a tip at all (which I could never do).

I agree that our society has become out of hand when it comes to tips. I live in DC and had our NW current guy have a pre-addressed envelope with an ask for tip for the holidays.

I think we should do away with all tips in all industries including food. Inflate the cost of food, taxis, hair the amount needed to give employee a decent wage. If you're an independent hair stylist, charge the actual amount you'd expect for service including any expected tip.

I assure you I am not cheap. I am know amongst my friends as the best tipper. There should be a balance. No. I never reduced food tip based on food or things outside control. I will, however, complain to management (while making a point my issue was not with service).



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Yes OP, we have seen what I have heard called "tip creep". Essentially, where 10% was the going rate for tips it has become 15% and where it was 15% it has become 20% ..... and so on. What is more is that tip creep has resulted in categories of employees who never expected or received tips now feeling entitled to it.

Tips are given to recognize good service and is part of the compensation of workers who are paid less than the minimum wage eg waiters. It is not intended as a economic mechanism to compensate people so that their living standards are raised - that is the role of tax policy and the government.

A couple of decades ago, a 15% tip at a restaurant was considered a decent tip; in cities like NY, it was closer to 20%. Today, 15% is viewed as being cheap. It is insane and I am like you in that I tip generously when I get good service but I only tip those people whose pay structure is based on receiving tips.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2014 18:16     Subject: Pet peeve - tipping at nail salon (anywhere I guess)

Pedicure is $22, so I give them $25 or $26 depending on time spent. All cash and they love it.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2014 17:57     Subject: Re:Pet peeve - tipping at nail salon (anywhere I guess)

OP here. Wow.

Okay $4 tip for $25 service is 16%. Sorry, that is not cheap.
Let's get some things straight. Beauty services are a lot different than food industry (waiters, bartenders, etc). Waiters get a very low wage ($2-3/hour) as the expectation is that they will make a great deal on their tips. As a waitress, if I had a $1,000 food tab at end of night, it's fair to assume if make $200 that night before I tip out my busboys, cooks. When I go out to eat, I tip anywhere from 22-30% (unless it's carryout) or 20-28% pre-tax. I have had great service and even gone as high as 40% before.

To PP, I don't use Peapod.

Beauty services work differently. My sister does hair. She has done booth rentals, commission splits and situations where salons pay you per service (they charge $80 to haircut and give you $50). She says a good tip is anywhere from 10-20% (but she usually gets 10-15). I am from CA.

For beauty, you show appreciation by a decent tip (not as high as food), repeat business and referrals. Agree with the PPs that poor service shouldn't expect the high range of tip, yet alone a tip at all (which I could never do).

I agree that our society has become out of hand when it comes to tips. I live in DC and had our NW current guy have a pre-addressed envelope with an ask for tip for the holidays.

I think we should do away with all tips in all industries including food. Inflate the cost of food, taxis, hair the amount needed to give employee a decent wage. If you're an independent hair stylist, charge the actual amount you'd expect for service including any expected tip.

I assure you I am not cheap. I am know amongst my friends as the best tipper. There should be a balance. No. I never reduced food tip based on food or things outside control. I will, however, complain to management (while making a point my issue was not with service).

Anonymous
Post 03/26/2014 17:46     Subject: Pet peeve - tipping at nail salon (anywhere I guess)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:God, there are some seriously cheap people here. If you don't want to adhere to American tipping customs, that is your prerogative, but you should not be surprised when people call you cheap. You should also expect that your service will get worse and worse if you return to the same establishments and are known as a lousy tipper.

I bet these people who are rejecting American tipping customs are also pissed that these underpaid service people aren't embracing American culture and language.


So, if you go out to eat and the waiter gets your order wrong, is nowhere to be found and the restaurant isn't busy, and then is a bit ruide to you, you will tip him because it is customary and you don't want to appear cheap? You are an idiot.


OP didn't say the service was bad. She said she didn't like the mix of change she got because she wanted to give a small tip. And to answer your question, I try to resolve issues with service at restaurants with the service person or with a manager. I have yet to be so enraged by poor service that I stiff a waiter. That does not make me an idiot, but I bet the people who get to serve you think you are an idiot.

PS - they do spit in your food if you are an a-hole.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2014 17:32     Subject: Pet peeve - tipping at nail salon (anywhere I guess)

Once at a nail salon I saw a lady who didn't tip and the nail guy ran after her screaming you have to tip me at the top of his lungs. Chased after her in the parking lot to get his tip. Not sure if she gave him cash or not.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2014 17:29     Subject: Pet peeve - tipping at nail salon (anywhere I guess)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ugh!! op you are being irrational.


Why is OP being irrational. Most of the world does NOT tip in the service industry. It's just a custom that everyone here is accustomed to, not a right. My bonus at work is not guaranteed and neither is a tip.


and their pay is better because of it, plenty of people want to raise minimum wage- but until people are actually paid fairly the service industry in this country will continue to live off of their tip money...and if you can afford the service but not the tip then spare everyone the drama and do it yourself!
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2014 17:28     Subject: Pet peeve - tipping at nail salon (anywhere I guess)

Most people on this thread can't do basic math. That is the real tragedy.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2014 17:25     Subject: Pet peeve - tipping at nail salon (anywhere I guess)

Anonymous wrote:I usually tip $8-10 for a pedicure. You're cheap, OP.


I tip 20% - so around $6.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2014 17:17     Subject: Pet peeve - tipping at nail salon (anywhere I guess)

Anonymous wrote:God, there are some seriously cheap people here. If you don't want to adhere to American tipping customs, that is your prerogative, but you should not be surprised when people call you cheap. You should also expect that your service will get worse and worse if you return to the same establishments and are known as a lousy tipper.

I bet these people who are rejecting American tipping customs are also pissed that these underpaid service people aren't embracing American culture and language.


So, if you go out to eat and the waiter gets your order wrong, is nowhere to be found and the restaurant isn't busy, and then is a bit ruide to you, you will tip him because it is customary and you don't want to appear cheap? You are an idiot.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2014 17:16     Subject: Pet peeve - tipping at nail salon (anywhere I guess)

If you tip $3-$4 on a $25 service, you are not a decent tipper. You are cheap.