Anonymous wrote:I am wonder how a parent would determine 5 or 6 years ahead? I think MAP-R ends with 8th grade. Were they taking HS Geometry as a 4th grader? Is that Lexile level? My child lost three points total on the HGC test.. I don't know what her IQ is. She is a regular kid who does kid things like sports and piano. It is not like you need to be a composer or have designed a new computer ap to get in.

I am not sure whether I could say exactly how far ahead my child is in terms of capability. His Map-R score in 6th grade puts him in the 99th percentile for 8th graders and 95th percentile for 11th graders and is above the median score for 11th grade. I feel comfortable saying he is a couple of years ahead in terms of capability but he does not know as much as a typical high school student and so he is not ahead in that sense. The lexile score corresponding to his MAP-R score is in the college range but I don't think he could really understand a college level biology textbook for example unless he had the prerequisite knowledge he would have picked up in high school. BUT the MAP-R score tells me he is capable of working a couple of grade levels ahead of sixth grade very easily.

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Anonymous wrote:Our educational consultant told us that my DC's IQ, at 146, was one in every 40,000 kids, based on the U.S. population in general. So that's 4 or 5 in a population the size of MCPS.

So even if MoCo skews a good deal higher, there are still only a handful of kids with an IQ like that. Let's say it's much much higher than the U.S. and there are 20 kids with IQs around that level. There are about 200 kids in HCGs, if I recall correctly. So even in a class of 25, there won't be more than a couple who have an IQ like that. So the PP's child, at 140, isn't right in the middle of the class.

I just think this is interesting from a statistical standpoint. i do think drive and hard work play a huge role and, from what I can see, a really high IQ is not a predictor of academic success or happiness.

LOL. You have an educational consultant for HGC?

No it was for learning disabilities. They do IQ testing as part of a general battery of tests, and the ed consultant was helping with accommodations.

Although clearly I heard wrong or she told me wrong about IQ distribution in the population.

Anonymous wrote:Our educational consultant told us that my DC's IQ, at 146, was one in every 40,000 kids, based on the U.S. population in general. So that's 4 or 5 in a population the size of MCPS.

So even if MoCo skews a good deal higher, there are still only a handful of kids with an IQ like that. Let's say it's much much higher than the U.S. and there are 20 kids with IQs around that level. There are about 200 kids in HCGs, if I recall correctly. So even in a class of 25, there won't be more than a couple who have an IQ like that. So the PP's child, at 140, isn't right in the middle of the class.

I just think this is interesting from a statistical standpoint. i do think drive and hard work play a huge role and, from what I can see, a really high IQ is not a predictor of academic success or happiness.

LOL. You have an educational consultant for HGC?

Anonymous wrote:I am wonder how a parent would determine 5 or 6 years ahead? I think MAP-R ends with 8th grade. Were they taking HS Geometry as a 4th grader? Is that Lexile level? My child lost three points total on the HGC test.. I don't know what her IQ is. She is a regular kid who does kid things like sports and piano. It is not like you need to be a composer or have designed a new computer ap to get in.

Here: http://www.nwea.org/sites/www.nwea.org/files/resources/2011_Normative_Data_Overview.pdf This is not the full report, but shows scores through 11th grade.
In addition DC was a CTY - math and verbal qualifier. That test is an above grade level test. Last year DC took a language course through CTY and it used a college level text book. Likewise, my child is a regular kid - plays soccer, swims, has friends. These are just a few examples of how I know DC is more than just a few years ahead.

It is my opinion that DC is right in the middle of the pack at the HGC. Lots of Ps and Is

I am wonder how a parent would determine 5 or 6 years ahead? I think MAP-R ends with 8th grade. Were they taking HS Geometry as a 4th grader? Is that Lexile level? My child lost three points total on the HGC test.. I don't know what her IQ is. She is a regular kid who does kid things like sports and piano. It is not like you need to be a composer or have designed a new computer ap to get in.