Anonymous wrote:I will never understand why anyone would keep their child here. Why is this even a discussion?

Because sometimes you don't have a choice. Cost is a huge issue. Lower paid enlisted cannot simply afford private day care. It is also a schedule issue that not all day cares work on a military schedule. And convince... not all military can afford cars and other luxury's. It is easy to criticize but sometimes you have to make the best of a bad situation. Its not like a regular job where the worst happens is you do not show up and get fired.

Anonymous wrote:I will never understand why anyone would keep their child here. Why is this even a discussion?

Honestly, I believe that there is some sort of issue with almost any place you put your child. I have friends that do the in home and would drop in and their babies were always strapped in their carseats (abuse), another friend had her child in a VERY expensive preschool in NoVa (to the tune of $30,000 a year) and had to pull her little girl because she was consistently being hit and bullied by two little boys but the school did not like to upset the parents and just wanted the money, I have had two friends that discovered their highly paid and highly recommended supposedly sainted nannies were actually hitting their kids, and so many centers in this area have had abuse allegations (and these are the ones that we know about). So what are parents supposed to do if not stay home and care for their children?

In some ways the Centers that have issues will at least be under watchful eyes.

I will never understand why anyone would keep their child here. Why is this even a discussion?

Anonymous wrote: I think she wanted DoD to reopen the Pentagon Center but not enough parents brought that up in round tables or made a stink about it (I think one parent was pushing for it now that force protection is not an issue).

Interesting - I'd love to be able to do P'gon daycare drop off and the old facility there is good size. But why is force protection no longer an issue? I thought it was closed because post 9/11 they figured there was no way to keep a facility on the reservation safe? Though, having moved north parking the other side of 110 would, I guess, do it.

I was not a fan of Ms. Murdock...you could never get ahold of her if you had a question or concern. Either her door was shut or she wasn't even in. The new director, in my opinion, is doing MUCH better. she seems very interested in the children as individuals and takes time to get to know the families. Her organization and communication skills seem leaps and bounds above previous directors of Cody. I will concur with the 4/10/14 8:42 posting...one of the two woman from the first incident and Vanessa were both working at the CDC prior to Ms. Murdock's arrival. My question is why didn't anyone report Vanessa before the late-January incident? The video footage shows her "hitting" kids four times in the 30-some days of video they reviewed. Why didn't those caregivers in the room report that behavior?I think it's impractical for a staff member to view every second of video recorded in that VERY large center every day. I heard they can't do the video streaming because of (1) privacy concerns of viewing other children other than your own and (2) the cost because it would need to be implemented DoD-wide.

for the person who thinks that vanessa was "monique murdock's people" maybe she was, maybe she wasnt, but vanessa was there looooong before monique murdock was ever even thought about at that center, i dont know how monique operated the center, i did hear some bad things about her, she was never there to even manage the center, but vanessa and the other abuser was there long before monique murdock

parents need to communicate with their kids, teachers, take time to sit in the room during drop off or pick up, listen to voice tones, observe actions, eventually u will pick up on things, but then again you may not, i have worked around people that put on a very good act for parents and are the devil when the parents leave, and yes i did report them, if people report abuse when they see it (inside staff) then these things will cease, but as long as the abuser is getting away with it they will continue, kudos to the staff who reported Vanessa, i wonder how she would like it if someone was treating her child or children the same way, hmmmmm

its not the Monique Murdock staff that is abusing these kids, it is the person themselves, i worked at myer for 5 years, overall 17 years with kids, never abused and always defensive over my babies (in my care), i loved any and every child in my care, people expect children to all act the same and just like adults kids have their own personality, please do not blame anyone who has worked under a certain director to be an abuser and needs to be fired because i know of some very good, excellent staff who worked under her and continue to shine brightly everyday that they go in to take care of those kids, its the person who choose to do these horrible things to kids

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Oddly enough, I spoke to the Director and after the first incident and the now the second only a few families pulled their children (less than 5) with the other vacancies being PCS moves. So no one pulls their kids.

I didn't pull mine because my kids are super happy there. Seriously happy. They love their friends and so far they have loved their caregivers (even when they graduate their caregivers go and visit them in their new classroom). They run and give them huge hugs and they are very warm people. I love the fact that they do this.

I don't necessarily think another place will be better. Every week a center in this area is dealing with an abuse allegation, drug dealing, etc. It's home daycares and the larger centers. The safest place is probably at home and that is not an option.

At least there are cameras. We drop in frequently. We also "spy" outside the classroom to watch what they are doing and it has always been really nice interaction.

There are no easy solutions.

I'm torn about whether to remove DC from there. The providers in DC's room are kind and nurturing and the new center director is excellent. After the initial abuse cases, I thought this would be one of the safest daycares due to all the scrutiny. However, the recent incident is very troubling that despite everything that has been done, this has again happened.

It's DoD. Change isn't going to happen at a pace fast enough to matter and cost is king. If they aren't going to continuously monitor the cameras, then their plan obviously is to let abuse happen. And then clean up the mess. Because it is cheaper and easier.

We're pulling our son before anything happens to him.

Anonymous wrote:22:31, how long ago were you there? And what's the teachers name if you don't mind saying?

We were there from 2010-mid 2013. I regret it so much. I considered pulling him when the first abuse story came out but then I realized they were going to be extra diligent. Nope.

I've been told the cameras would be too expensive to stream live. I think that at the least we should be able to view them from a .mil address. Perhaps is the parents push hard enough we can affect change?