Anonymous
Post 03/04/2014 21:34     Subject: Base school or center?
Boy oh boy, have you people drunk the Kool aid-why on earth would you not advocate for low class sizes for your own children?? No one is saying McLean/GF schools are disadvantaged, but they also don't deserve these increasingly large class sizes year after year.

You had better hope some people with means stay public to keep FCPS afloat rather than totally continuing to dismiss their concerns!
Anonymous
Post 03/04/2014 21:21     Subject: Base school or center?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I mean maybe it's cathartic, but if you really feel this way wouldn't you be better off hiring a realtor or applying to some privates?


+1


+100
Anonymous
Post 03/04/2014 05:30     Subject: Base school or center?
Anonymous wrote:

I mean maybe it's cathartic, but if you really feel this way wouldn't you be better off hiring a realtor or applying to some privates?


+1
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2014 22:50     Subject: Base school or center?
Anonymous wrote:Not as good as Longfellow or Kilmer. Just what I am paying top dollar for, to put my kid in school in a trailer??


Wasn't this the Catherine Lorenze/Louise Epstein mindset that crashed and burned in the last School Board election? Even in Dranesville, people got embarassed by the argument that the AAP population in Great Falls and McLean was the most disadvantaged group of students in the entire county.

I mean maybe it's cathartic, but if you really feel this way wouldn't you be better off hiring a realtor or applying to some privates?
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2014 21:53     Subject: Base school or center?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not as good as Longfellow or Kilmer. Just what I am paying top dollar for, to put my kid in school in a trailer??


Those of us living within the Cooper boundary are also paying top dollar and yet you don't hear us whining about the aesthetics of the school. We know our kids are getting a top-notch education at Cooper and are patiently waiting our turn for a school renovation.

I truly hope FCPS will one day wise up to the incredible self-importance, arrogance, and entitlement of AAP parents who insist that their children get special treatment again and again from a public school system.


The GE kids at Cooper are just as likely to be in that trailer too, Ms. Sanctimonious-so drop the "holier than thou" attitude. It is a reality for all McLean students, and not fair when others in the county have low class sizes.


AAP parents have the lock on sanctimony, hands down.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2014 21:37     Subject: Base school or center?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not as good as Longfellow or Kilmer. Just what I am paying top dollar for, to put my kid in school in a trailer??


Those of us living within the Cooper boundary are also paying top dollar and yet you don't hear us whining about the aesthetics of the school. We know our kids are getting a top-notch education at Cooper and are patiently waiting our turn for a school renovation.

I truly hope FCPS will one day wise up to the incredible self-importance, arrogance, and entitlement of AAP parents who insist that their children get special treatment again and again from a public school system.


The GE kids at Cooper are just as likely to be in that trailer too, Ms. Sanctimonious-so drop the "holier than thou" attitude. It is a reality for all McLean students, and not fair when others in the county have low class sizes.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2014 19:59     Subject: Base school or center?
Anonymous wrote:Not as good as Longfellow or Kilmer. Just what I am paying top dollar for, to put my kid in school in a trailer??


Those of us living within the Cooper boundary are also paying top dollar and yet you don't hear us whining about the aesthetics of the school. We know our kids are getting a top-notch education at Cooper and are patiently waiting our turn for a school renovation.

I truly hope FCPS will one day wise up to the incredible self-importance, arrogance, and entitlement of AAP parents who insist that their children get special treatment again and again from a public school system.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2014 19:22     Subject: Base school or center?
Not as good as Longfellow or Kilmer. Just what I am paying top dollar for, to put my kid in school in a trailer??
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2014 18:52     Subject: Base school or center?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:AAP should be severely cut back to just the kids who actually "need" it. That way, centers could be eliminated, and LLIV could be successfully carried out at each school without AAP classes outnumbering Gen Ed. The way it's going now, we may as well say "most" kids in FCPS are AAP (which is insane), as the Gen Ed population is rapidly becoming the minority.


Not true when you look at the Longfellow Middle School numbers, for example-only 40% of kids are in AAP at that center.

And I disagree with McLean not having center schools-ridiculous to keep changing the rules just for McLean/GF. Driving out the high paying tax payers that carry the rest of the county is a pretty stupid idea on the county's part-but then with the way the rest of the country is going, I am not surprised...


Why would that drive out high paying taxpayers? A Cooper or Chesterbrook with LLIV is still probably going to be better than any school in Arlington or Loudoun.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2014 18:41     Subject: Base school or center?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:AAP should be severely cut back to just the kids who actually "need" it. That way, centers could be eliminated, and LLIV could be successfully carried out at each school without AAP classes outnumbering Gen Ed. The way it's going now, we may as well say "most" kids in FCPS are AAP (which is insane), as the Gen Ed population is rapidly becoming the minority.


Not true when you look at the Longfellow Middle School numbers, for example-only 40% of kids are in AAP at that center.

And I disagree with McLean not having center schools-ridiculous to keep changing the rules just for McLean/GF. Driving out the high paying tax payers that carry the rest of the county is a pretty stupid idea on the county's part-but then with the way the rest of the country is going, I am not surprised...


Sorry, but "only 40%" AAP is far too many.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2014 17:57     Subject: Base school or center?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Strauss should evaluate McLean and consider rezoning some neighborhoods to spread the McLean kids around.


Good luck with no opposition to that one!!!!


Do you see a lot of opposition with kids being moved around in McLean when all the McLean ES's are of high quality and end up in either Cooper or LMS?


There seems to be opposition among some McLean parents to having their AAP kids moved from Longfellow to Cooper. And some are suspicious that FCPS plans to move SFH neighborhoods to Langley and assign every new multi-family development built in Tysons to Marshall and McLean. The assumption is that Langley always ends up bigger and richer at the expense of other schools.


Zoning Marshall for those Tysons kids makes sense because Marshall is vastly underenrolled compared to McLean.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2014 15:22     Subject: Base school or center?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Strauss should evaluate McLean and consider rezoning some neighborhoods to spread the McLean kids around.


Good luck with no opposition to that one!!!!


Do you see a lot of opposition with kids being moved around in McLean when all the McLean ES's are of high quality and end up in either Cooper or LMS?


There seems to be opposition among some McLean parents to having their AAP kids moved from Longfellow to Cooper. And some are suspicious that FCPS plans to move SFH neighborhoods to Langley and assign every new multi-family development built in Tysons to Marshall and McLean. The assumption is that Langley always ends up bigger and richer at the expense of other schools.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2014 14:00     Subject: Re:Base school or center?
Anonymous wrote:Several FCPS are starting up LLIV classes across the county not just MCLean. A push to eliminate centers(which will also just have LLIV classes as well) it balances out numbers and keeps kids in their neighborhood schools across the county.


Yes, LLIV is starting where there is critical mass. There is not critical mass across the county.

LLIV implementation also is dependent upon addressing all items in the implementation checklist. One of those items includes not negatively affecting an established AAP Center (by reducing the critical mass). So not all schools that have critical mass will necessarily be approved to have LLIV due to the unintended consequences for an established AAP Center.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2014 13:57     Subject: Base school or center?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:AAP should be severely cut back to just the kids who actually "need" it. That way, centers could be eliminated, and LLIV could be successfully carried out at each school without AAP classes outnumbering Gen Ed. The way it's going now, we may as well say "most" kids in FCPS are AAP (which is insane), as the Gen Ed population is rapidly becoming the minority.


AAP Centers should be eliminated in McLean, Vienna and Great Falls. Critical mass exists in those areas not to require Centers and simply have Local Level IV everywhere.

Then Centers can remain in the remainder of the county where there is not critical mass.


And move some of those center teachers to the LLIV programs.


I would leave the teachers where they are. With normal attrition, teachers will relocate out of the county, retire, etc. Might as well keep consistency in a community while it is still possible.