Anonymous
02/26/2014 22:21
Subject: Level IV AAP Courses at Cooper MS Next School Year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Fine, just don't make it mandatory for those who would prefer the known quantity at Longfellow.
....and are so insecure about their children's intelligence that they fear they can't make it without whatever the heck that "known" quantity is. How absurd. If your child belongs in AAP chances are they're steering their own learning at a higher level anyway.
what hooey!
Oh, kids who are in AAP are supposed to be "steering their own learning"? Our mistake! Some of us actually thought that the school system was supposed to help steer student learning! Apparently we're wrong and the school system is just there to provide roofs over their heads while the kids themselves steer their own learning!
Even AAP kids need to be taught. And I'd question whether this very sudden expansion of "middle school local Level IV' is going to include much, or any, retraining for teachers or moving of teachers who are already trained to teach AAP or experienced in teaching it. But the haters would say that teacher training and experience aren't needed since, after all, our AAP snowflakes are clearly capable of teaching themselves, right? Just hand 'em the curriculum and let them have at it!
Why should money (that doesn't exist in the FCPS budget) continue to be spent on training AAP teachers and expanding LLIV? Are there not many more pressing concerns for FCPS to worry about, such as overcrowded classrooms for [b]all children, and improving the Gen Ed curriculum? [/b] Frankly, if you're that concerned that your snowflake isn't getting what they "need" (ahem), homeschool or go private. This is a public school system with many kids to serve, not just the AAP contingent.
The problem is, certain school board members have publically stated that they would rather have McLean/Great Falls schools overcrowded at the expense of other county schools in "poorer" neighborhoods-we are talking class sizes of 28-30 versus 14 or so-so if you think there is equal access for all in FCPS, you have another think coming...it is not just AAP that is sucking up resources and all animals are equal though some are more equal than others, to quote Orwell...
How does having McLean and Great Falls schools overcrowded come "at the expense of" schools in "poorer" neighborhoods? Seems like some twisted syntax.
This poster has posted similar statements many times. The gist is that the poster believes she is paying very high taxes to live in an expensive area and she gets ripped off because there are Title 1 schools, where the families pay much lower taxes because the property values are lower, yet that have smaller class sizes (presumably because more students are challenged by the stresses of poverty). The poster thinks because she pays "more" (because her house is more expensive), she is entitled to equal (if not smaller?) class sizes. Personally, I'm blown away at the poster's lack of empathy and social responsibility, but her views are her views and she's entitled to them.
Anonymous
02/26/2014 22:03
Subject: Level IV AAP Courses at Cooper MS Next School Year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Fine, just don't make it mandatory for those who would prefer the known quantity at Longfellow.
....and are so insecure about their children's intelligence that they fear they can't make it without whatever the heck that "known" quantity is. How absurd. If your child belongs in AAP chances are they're steering their own learning at a higher level anyway.
what hooey!
Oh, kids who are in AAP are supposed to be "steering their own learning"? Our mistake! Some of us actually thought that the school system was supposed to help steer student learning! Apparently we're wrong and the school system is just there to provide roofs over their heads while the kids themselves steer their own learning!
Even AAP kids need to be taught. And I'd question whether this very sudden expansion of "middle school local Level IV' is going to include much, or any, retraining for teachers or moving of teachers who are already trained to teach AAP or experienced in teaching it. But the haters would say that teacher training and experience aren't needed since, after all, our AAP snowflakes are clearly capable of teaching themselves, right? Just hand 'em the curriculum and let them have at it!
Why should money (that doesn't exist in the FCPS budget) continue to be spent on training AAP teachers and expanding LLIV? Are there not many more pressing concerns for FCPS to worry about, such as overcrowded classrooms for [b]all children, and improving the Gen Ed curriculum? [/b] Frankly, if you're that concerned that your snowflake isn't getting what they "need" (ahem), homeschool or go private. This is a public school system with many kids to serve, not just the AAP contingent.
The problem is, certain school board members have publically stated that they would rather have McLean/Great Falls schools overcrowded at the expense of other county schools in "poorer" neighborhoods-we are talking class sizes of 28-30 versus 14 or so-so if you think there is equal access for all in FCPS, you have another think coming...it is not just AAP that is sucking up resources and all animals are equal though some are more equal than others, to quote Orwell...
How does having McLean and Great Falls schools overcrowded come "at the expense of" schools in "poorer" neighborhoods? Seems like some twisted syntax.
Anonymous
02/26/2014 17:30
Subject: Level IV AAP Courses at Cooper MS Next School Year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
And if you fear having anything less than the most experienced teachers with the most training is going to keep your AAP child from reaching his/her potential in an area as educated as this one, you've got bigger problems.
I think this has to be the reasonable middle ground. The notion that AAP kids who aren't on that much of a higher plain than most of the other students in these pyramids are going to be woefully underserved unless their teachers receive oodles of specialiazed training, and have already spent years in other AAP centers, seems informed more by a sense of entitlement than by actual pedagogy.
+1000
Anonymous
02/26/2014 11:57
Subject: Level IV AAP Courses at Cooper MS Next School Year?
Anonymous wrote:
And if you fear having anything less than the most experienced teachers with the most training is going to keep your AAP child from reaching his/her potential in an area as educated as this one, you've got bigger problems.
I think this has to be the reasonable middle ground. The notion that AAP kids who aren't on that much of a higher plain than most of the other students in these pyramids are going to be woefully underserved unless their teachers receive oodles of specialiazed training, and have already spent years in other AAP centers, seems informed more by a sense of entitlement than by actual pedagogy.
Anonymous
02/26/2014 11:10
Subject: Level IV AAP Courses at Cooper MS Next School Year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Fine, just don't make it mandatory for those who would prefer the known quantity at Longfellow.
....and are so insecure about their children's intelligence that they fear they can't make it without whatever the heck that "known" quantity is. How absurd. If your child belongs in AAP chances are they're steering their own learning at a higher level anyway.
what hooey!
Oh, kids who are in AAP are supposed to be "steering their own learning"? Our mistake! Some of us actually thought that the school system was supposed to help steer student learning! Apparently we're wrong and the school system is just there to provide roofs over their heads while the kids themselves steer their own learning!
Even AAP kids need to be taught. And I'd question whether this very sudden expansion of "middle school local Level IV' is going to include much, or any, retraining for teachers or moving of teachers who are already trained to teach AAP or experienced in teaching it. But the haters would say that teacher training and experience aren't needed since, after all, our AAP snowflakes are clearly capable of teaching themselves, right? Just hand 'em the curriculum and let them have at it!
Why should money (that doesn't exist in the FCPS budget) continue to be spent on training AAP teachers and expanding LLIV? Are there not many more pressing concerns for FCPS to worry about, such as overcrowded classrooms for [b]all children, and improving the Gen Ed curriculum? [/b] Frankly, if you're that concerned that your snowflake isn't getting what they "need" (ahem), homeschool or go private. This is a public school system with many kids to serve, not just the AAP contingent.
The problem is, certain school board members have publically stated that they would rather have McLean/Great Falls schools overcrowded at the expense of other county schools in "poorer" neighborhoods-we are talking class sizes of 28-30 versus 14 or so-so if you think there is equal access for all in FCPS, you have another think coming...it is not just AAP that is sucking up resources and all animals are equal though some are more equal than others, to quote Orwell...
Anonymous
02/26/2014 10:20
Subject: Level IV AAP Courses at Cooper MS Next School Year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Fine, just don't make it mandatory for those who would prefer the known quantity at Longfellow.
....and are so insecure about their children's intelligence that they fear they can't make it without whatever the heck that "known" quantity is. How absurd. If your child belongs in AAP chances are they're steering their own learning at a higher level anyway.
what hooey!
Oh, kids who are in AAP are supposed to be "steering their own learning"? Our mistake! Some of us actually thought that the school system was supposed to help steer student learning! Apparently we're wrong and the school system is just there to provide roofs over their heads while the kids themselves steer their own learning!
Even AAP kids need to be taught. And I'd question whether this very sudden expansion of "middle school local Level IV' is going to include much, or any, retraining for teachers or moving of teachers who are already trained to teach AAP or experienced in teaching it. But the haters would say that teacher training and experience aren't needed since, after all, our AAP snowflakes are clearly capable of teaching themselves, right? Just hand 'em the curriculum and let them have at it!
Why should money (that doesn't exist in the FCPS budget) continue to be spent on training AAP teachers and expanding LLIV? Are there not many more pressing concerns for FCPS to worry about, such as overcrowded classrooms for all children, and improving the Gen Ed curriculum? Frankly, if you're that concerned that your snowflake isn't getting what they "need" (ahem), homeschool or go private. This is a public school system with many kids to serve, not just the AAP contingent.
Anonymous
02/26/2014 10:16
Subject: Level IV AAP Courses at Cooper MS Next School Year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Fine, just don't make it mandatory for those who would prefer the known quantity at Longfellow.
....and are so insecure about their children's intelligence that they fear they can't make it without whatever the heck that "known" quantity is. How absurd. If your child belongs in AAP chances are they're steering their own learning at a higher level anyway.
what hooey!
Oh, kids who are in AAP are supposed to be "steering their own learning"? Our mistake! Some of us actually thought that the school system was supposed to help steer student learning! Apparently we're wrong and the school system is just there to provide roofs over their heads while the kids themselves steer their own learning!
Even AAP kids need to be taught. And I'd question whether this very sudden expansion of "middle school local Level IV' is going to include much, or any, retraining for teachers or moving of teachers who are already trained to teach AAP or experienced in teaching it. But the haters would say that teacher training and experience aren't needed since, after all, our AAP snowflakes are clearly capable of teaching themselves, right? Just hand 'em the curriculum and let them have at it!
The school system is definitely supposed to help steer learning by teaching. Never said it wasn't. But if you had a gifted kid you'd know what I mean. They're always exploring something, and much of it is well-beyond what's taught even in an AAP center. Seems like the parents who worry most about AAP are those who are afraid their kid wouldn't be special without one.
And if you fear having anything less than the most experienced teachers with the most training is going to keep your AAP child from reaching his/her potential in an area as educated as this one, you've got bigger problems.
Anonymous
02/26/2014 10:04
Subject: Level IV AAP Courses at Cooper MS Next School Year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Fine, just don't make it mandatory for those who would prefer the known quantity at Longfellow.
....and are so insecure about their children's intelligence that they fear they can't make it without whatever the heck that "known" quantity is. How absurd. If your child belongs in AAP chances are they're steering their own learning at a higher level anyway.
what hooey!
Oh, kids who are in AAP are supposed to be "steering their own learning"? Our mistake! Some of us actually thought that the school system was supposed to help steer student learning! Apparently we're wrong and the school system is just there to provide roofs over their heads while the kids themselves steer their own learning!
Even AAP kids need to be taught. And I'd question whether this very sudden expansion of "middle school local Level IV' is going to include much, or any, retraining for teachers or moving of teachers who are already trained to teach AAP or experienced in teaching it. But the haters would say that teacher training and experience aren't needed since, after all, our AAP snowflakes are clearly capable of teaching themselves, right? Just hand 'em the curriculum and let them have at it!
Anonymous
02/20/2014 12:54
Subject: Re:Level IV AAP Courses at Cooper MS Next School Year?
Anonymous wrote:I just posted this on the Thoreau thread: Local Level IV seems to be the trend that FCPS is promoting. Its happening in MS and ES. And Each year more and more schools are offering it. Maybe eventually doing away with AAP centers and program and just having LEVEL IV "advanced" classes at all schools.
They can play it by ear for a year or two. Chesterbrook and Wolftrap students can still attend Haycock and Archer if they want, but most stay at the base schools for Local Level IV rather than attend the AAP centers. People may look at middle school differently, or they may not. If a majority stay at the base schools, it may alleviate enough of the enrollment pressure that there's no need to restrict the center option.
Anonymous
02/20/2014 12:16
Subject: Re:Level IV AAP Courses at Cooper MS Next School Year?
I just posted this on the Thoreau thread: Local Level IV seems to be the trend that FCPS is promoting. Its happening in MS and ES. And Each year more and more schools are offering it. Maybe eventually doing away with AAP centers and program and just having LEVEL IV "advanced" classes at all schools.
Anonymous
02/20/2014 09:04
Subject: Re:Level IV AAP Courses at Cooper MS Next School Year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You both (all?) are so nasty -- what kind of example are you setting for your children?
examples of non-entitlement, I hope.
What is that supposed to mean? As far as I can tell it's equal opportunity sense of entitlement here.
It is rather cathartic that we have DCUM to vent all of the things we would never say to our neighbor...
Anonymous
02/19/2014 22:19
Subject: Re:Level IV AAP Courses at Cooper MS Next School Year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You both (all?) are so nasty -- what kind of example are you setting for your children?
examples of non-entitlement, I hope.
What is that supposed to mean? As far as I can tell it's equal opportunity sense of entitlement here.
Anonymous
02/19/2014 21:29
Subject: Re:Level IV AAP Courses at Cooper MS Next School Year?
Anonymous wrote:You both (all?) are so nasty -- what kind of example are you setting for your children?
examples of non-entitlement, I hope.
Anonymous
02/19/2014 21:22
Subject: Re:Level IV AAP Courses at Cooper MS Next School Year?
You both (all?) are so nasty -- what kind of example are you setting for your children?
Anonymous
02/19/2014 20:25
Subject: Level IV AAP Courses at Cooper MS Next School Year?
jAnonymous wrote:That is not what anyone is saying, AAP hater...
Umm, it very clearly is. Can you read?