Anonymous
Post 01/24/2014 15:36     Subject: 2014-AAP - In-pool / FxAt Results
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Got the in-pool letter today. No CogAt score.

Sorry, I'm a wimp...I'm leaving out the school name. But it's not one of the ones listed above, nor is it in any of those geographic areas.


Was it in the folder or mail?


It was in the mail.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2014 15:29     Subject: 2014-AAP - In-pool / FxAt Results
Anonymous wrote:Got the in-pool letter today. No CogAt score.

Sorry, I'm a wimp...I'm leaving out the school name. But it's not one of the ones listed above, nor is it in any of those geographic areas.


Was it in the folder or mail?
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2014 15:26     Subject: 2014-AAP - In-pool / FxAt Results
Got the in-pool letter today. No CogAt score.

Sorry, I'm a wimp...I'm leaving out the school name. But it's not one of the ones listed above, nor is it in any of those geographic areas.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2014 15:23     Subject: 2014-AAP - In-pool / FxAt Results
Anyone getting pool letters in the weekly school folders today?
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2014 14:54     Subject: 2014-AAP - In-pool / FxAt Results
FCPS siet updated with new info about Pool and new deadline.

http://www.fcps.edu/is/aap/index.shtml
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2014 14:45     Subject: 2014-AAP - In-pool / FxAt Results
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

No so. We all know a lot of the kids in AAP aren't necessarily "gifted"; they're excellent, self-motivated students who are not behavior problems. Why in the world would I encourage those kids leaving my school? I don't blame the principals at all.


i totally agree with this.

That's not to say that there aren't some reaaly gifted kids (or even high-acheiving kids) out there who are also behavior problems. i dare say that only one out of 30 AAP kids is truly gifted. But mt 3rd grader (in AAP), has a class made up of 26 other high-achievers... and not a single "behavior problem" child in the group.

right or wrong, it is one of the primary benefits of AAP. You are MUCH more likely to have your high-achiever surrounded by other high-achievers -- and the teacher actually gets to teach -- instead of policing the 2-3 rowdy kids.


Oh puh-leeeze. My DC's AAP class last year was one of the worst behaved in the school. The teacher actually had the kids write letters of apology to her for their disruptive behavior. I couldn't stand volunteering in that clsas as the kids were so obnoxious. Its not much better this year. AAP classes are full of kids who feel the rules dont apply to them.


We can only go on our own experiences, but at our school (not a center) the kids who leave for AAP are uniformly among the best behaved. That doesn't mean they're never kind of snotty and know-it-all...but the two or three "rowdy" kids in our gen ed classes tend to get physical with other kids (hitting, biting, throwing things). I have no doubt some of those fleeing for AAP are trying to get away from that type of atmosphere.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2014 14:37     Subject: 2014-AAP - In-pool / FxAt Results
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is no difference in behavior problems amongst kids in the AAP classes and kids in general ed. Why would you think otherwise?


because as others have noted, many truly gifted kids have issues -- intellect far-outpacing social skills, 2E, etc. Do some research before you sound off.

broadening centers to include smart, achieving kids who are not gifted and would do just fine at their base schools is what has muddied the water. ask any AAP teacher. Ask any elementary school teacher or principal. most will tell you the same thing.

the sooner AAP services at all levels are self-contained in individual schools the better. might even help on snow days since less kids will have to be bussed out of their neighborhoods.


+100
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2014 14:35     Subject: 2014-AAP - In-pool / FxAt Results
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

No so. We all know a lot of the kids in AAP aren't necessarily "gifted"; they're excellent, self-motivated students who are not behavior problems. Why in the world would I encourage those kids leaving my school? I don't blame the principals at all.


i totally agree with this.

That's not to say that there aren't some reaaly gifted kids (or even high-acheiving kids) out there who are also behavior problems. i dare say that only one out of 30 AAP kids is truly gifted. But mt 3rd grader (in AAP), has a class made up of 26 other high-achievers... and not a single "behavior problem" child in the group.

right or wrong, it is one of the primary benefits of AAP. You are MUCH more likely to have your high-achiever surrounded by other high-achievers -- and the teacher actually gets to teach -- instead of policing the 2-3 rowdy kids.


Oh puh-leeeze. My DC's AAP class last year was one of the worst behaved in the school. The teacher actually had the kids write letters of apology to her for their disruptive behavior. I couldn't stand volunteering in that clsas as the kids were so obnoxious. Its not much better this year. AAP classes are full of kids who feel the rules dont apply to them.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2014 14:29     Subject: 2014-AAP - In-pool / FxAt Results
Anonymous wrote:Vienna Elementary:
Pool letter: Yes
Cogat scores: Yes


When did you get the Cogat scores? was it from AAP office?
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2014 14:15     Subject: 2014-AAP - In-pool / FxAt Results
The number of students shouldn't matter. Our special ed students don't need "critical mass" to get services. I guess that ultimately, FCPS is admitting most of their AAP students don't need services. Especially if any school has "lots" of students who qualify for the center. There is no way that every one of those kids is truly gifted!
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2014 14:08     Subject: 2014-AAP - In-pool / FxAt Results
How did these schools get the mailings out when schools have been closed all week? I'm really puzzled.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2014 13:52     Subject: 2014-AAP - In-pool / FxAt Results
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
the sooner AAP services at all levels are self-contained in individual schools the better. might even help on snow days since less kids will have to be bussed out of their neighborhoods.


Maybe this works at some schools but not all schools. Some schools have lots of Center-eligible students so a Local Level IV approach would work well. Others do not.


Yup-critical mass, baby...
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2014 13:50     Subject: 2014-AAP - In-pool / FxAt Results
Vienna Elementary:
Pool letter: Yes
Cogat scores: Yes
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2014 12:32     Subject: 2014-AAP - In-pool / FxAt Results
Anonymous wrote:
the sooner AAP services at all levels are self-contained in individual schools the better. might even help on snow days since less kids will have to be bussed out of their neighborhoods.


Maybe this works at some schools but not all schools. Some schools have lots of Center-eligible students so a Local Level IV approach would work well. Others do not.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2014 12:31     Subject: 2014-AAP - In-pool / FxAt Results
Anonymous wrote:

No so. We all know a lot of the kids in AAP aren't necessarily "gifted"; they're excellent, self-motivated students who are not behavior problems. Why in the world would I encourage those kids leaving my school? I don't blame the principals at all.


i totally agree with this.

That's not to say that there aren't some reaaly gifted kids (or even high-acheiving kids) out there who are also behavior problems. i dare say that only one out of 30 AAP kids is truly gifted. But mt 3rd grader (in AAP), has a class made up of 26 other high-achievers... and not a single "behavior problem" child in the group.

right or wrong, it is one of the primary benefits of AAP. You are MUCH more likely to have your high-achiever surrounded by other high-achievers -- and the teacher actually gets to teach -- instead of policing the 2-3 rowdy kids.